Milk

**dickster** · 05-27-2013, 08:50 AM

Semi skimmed milk, good or bad for lean muscle. Heard sugar content is high, oats with water is it.

**--->>405<<---** · 05-27-2013, 01:29 PM

too vague of a question. IMO milk in moderation is fine. i drink it and i look pretty dang good aside from this fat i picked up while on vacay but i assure u it wasnt from drinking too much milk!

if ur trying to cut below 10% bf i would drop the milk at 10%..

**MuscleInk** · 05-27-2013, 01:32 PM

Ahhh....the old milk question.....again. I personally don't drink it any more and haven't for three years now. Only almond milk for me - except now while Im cutting: water, water, water!!!!

**baseline_9** · 05-27-2013, 02:18 PM

Until someone backs up the 'milk is bad' debate with anything at all....... I'm not buying it...

Just like any other food source it is just macros at the end if the day.... You body doesn't go 'fuk, this cvnt is drinking milk... Is that on the bad list... Yeh... Ok, let's store it as bodyfat then'

Lol I think that is how people think this whole thing about food choices works lol.... Like we have little chipmunks in our stomach that decide if the food is a good food or bad food....

It's just numbers at the end if the day.... The rules of Thermodynamics do not change because we label a food type as 'good' or 'bad'....

**--->>405<<---** · 05-27-2013, 02:23 PM

^^ maybe we can bribe the chipmunks with pecans?? LMFAO!!!

**MuscleInk** · 05-27-2013, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Until someone backs up the 'milk is bad' debate with anything at all....... I'm not buying it...

Just like any other food source it is just macros at the end if the day.... You body doesn't go 'fuk, this cvnt is drinking milk... Is that on the bad list... Yeh... Ok, let's store it as bodyfat then'

Lol I think that is how people think this whole thing about food choices works lol.... Like we have little chipmunks in our stomach that decide if the food is a good food or bad food....

It's just numbers at the end if the day.... The rules of Thermodynamics do not change because we label a food type as 'good' or 'bad'....

I don't disagree. For my cutting cycle its about caloric restriction and limiting sources of sugar.

**--->>405<<---** · 05-27-2013, 02:26 PM

personally i think there is a predisposition to store carbs and fat as fat vs protein, its just my opinion based on my experience. i believe macro splits can dictate body composition such as 50/30/20 pro/carb/fat will keep me leaner than 20/50/30 pro/carb/fat with cals being the same..

i also think nutrient timing have a bearing such as cycling carbs based on activity vs eating the same carbs everyday..

**Times Roman** · 05-27-2013, 02:27 PM

the sugar in milk (lactose) bothers a lot of people, self included. one of the sides is a lot of gas production. couple that with the protein powder many of us consume, and drinking more than a glass or two a day can make you someone to avoid in confined spaces.

if you must drink milk, probably pre workout would be ideal, to get the most out of the simple carbs you are ingesting.

**MuscleInk** · 05-27-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

^^ maybe we can bribe the chipmunks with pecans?? LMFAO!!!

I'm starving my chipmunks. I think they'd be grateful for a glass of milk!!! Lol

**baseline_9** · 05-27-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

personally i think there is a predisposition to store carbs and fat as fat vs protein, its just my opinion based on my experience. i believe macro splits can dictate body composition such as 50/30/20 pro/carb/fat will keep me leaner than 20/50/30 pro/carb/fat with cals being the same..

i also think nutrient timing have a bearing such as cycling carbs based on activity vs eating the same carbs everyday..

I think your right....

I believe people need to think more about macros than they do food choices.... If you hit 'optimum' macros on a daily basis consistently over and over again food choices do not matter...The body see's macros, not food packages....

And even the insulin debate is questionable.... A storage hormone can only store what you give it..... So insulin levels are not as important as what people think..... People don't see the bigger picture...

**Dpyle** · 05-27-2013, 03:01 PM

Many people find themselves feeling perpetually hungry while cutting. If you enjoy a couple glasses of milk daily, yet find yourself feeling hungry more often than not. I would recommend the switch to almond milk then fill in those saved calories with some more solid foods to help keep you feeling full a little longer.

Personally I drink whole milk daily, and can't say that I've seen a huge difference in fat loss. Much like baseline I simply aim for my macros, and carry on with my day.

**Java Man** · 05-28-2013, 02:57 AM

I drink 2 or more gallons of either 1% or 2% milk every week I mix all of my protein in milk. Always have. I do everything by instinct now though and I don't compete so it's not a critical issue for me.