Issue with low carb days

[Dougiefresh7707]

I notice on my low carb days which is 0-50 in fiberous veggies I'm not as pumped, focus is off a little,and I'm extremely hungry. I still do my workouts and do them hard don't get me wrong but I was seeing if anyone had this problem also and what they do to combat these feelings?

[Dougiefresh7707]

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[dude700]

Perhaps you should invest in a pre-workout powder. Or do you already use one?

[Dougiefresh7707]

Perhaps you should invest in a pre-workout powder. Or do you already use one?

Yea use it but new protocol is on the way cialis and OTC supps for pre workout.

[Dougiefresh7707]

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[Bonaparte]

You feel this way because your body is lacking it's primary source of fuel.
The only thing you can do is eat more carbs.

Stimulants will only make it worse, especially if you're prone to hypoglycemia.

[Dougiefresh7707]

You feel this way because your body is lacking it's primary source of fuel.
The only thing you can do is eat more carbs.

Stimulants will only make it worse, especially if you're prone to hypoglycemia.

So pretty much when carb cycling just deal with it lol which is fine I still push myself to te max in the gym I just feel different , I can't imagine eating any more veggies then I do those days and its not enough to really fuel me. Also no hypoglycemia my gf is thought.

[Back In Black]

Yes, deal with it or change your workouts so you don't lift on 0 carb days.

[lucabratzi]

Yes, deal with it or change your workouts so you don't lift on 0 carb days.

Agreed. When I was carb cycling I lifted on no carb days and it was hell. Arrange ur workouts so ur lifting on carb days, big muscle group on carb load and cardio only on no carb. You'll feel and look better.

[--->>405<<---]

Agree with BIB. No carb days ideally are cardio only except abs.. If ur cutting try a 3 day split where u eat carbs on ur 3 training days only and hit cardio hard on non training days. This is wat i do.

Carbs should fuel training. No training = no carbs IMo for staying lean (except maybe bulking)

[Dougiefresh7707]

Yes, deal with it or change your workouts so you don't lift on 0 carb days.

Ok ill see how to set it up just my work scedule is the people's and why I have this split now.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Thanks guys work schedule sucks that's why workouts land on no carb days but ill tweak it a little maybe to where only one falls on a 0 carb day

[Bonaparte]

If it means missing workouts, I'd just avoid this carb cycling thing altogether and eat consistently.

[Dougiefresh7707]

If it means missing workouts, I'd just avoid this carb cycling thing altogether and eat consistently.

It's been helping alot thought I'm losing slowly which is what in shooting for without from what I can tell an muscle loss, which my last cut made me feel small as hell. Also I don't see it hindering my actual push I still workout just as hard I'm just a little off also I'm in week 4 of test e so I don't really want to switch my diet right now. I figured out I can train 3 days in a row in carb days and do legs on refeed and take a day off durning the week instead of Sunday.

[Dougiefresh7707]

It would look like this I'm a little worried of over training thought Sunday refeed leg, Monday carb day chest and bicep, Tuesday carb day back, wendsday carb day delts and tricep, Thursday rest day no carb, Friday no carb cardio, Saturday no carb cardio.

[matthepanther]

I was in the same situation. Work from 7am-5pm and without carbs it sucks- lack energy, focus, feel groggy. I added a small amount (30-50g max) of starchy carbs in the morning to jump start my body and skipped the rest of the day. I have no idea how you could lift on those days. I would suggest adding some more fat- maybe another egg yolk if you can fit it in your macros, to make you feel better.

[Heath48]

if i have to lift on a no carb day for some reason i eat actual carbs before my workout like any other day. i usually have a scoop and a half of ground oats so i just do that. its something like 40 carbs and obviously makes it a "low" carb day but it helps my workouts.

[Sgt. Hartman]

I don't see the point in trying to have a productive WO with no carbs when you're at a fairly high bf %.

It's not hard to lose fat and spare LBM eating a consistent diet and doing cardio when you're in the teens in bf.

[Back In Black]

It's not overtraining if you're smart. I train 4 days on 3 off because I have mo choice -

And I make progress. It's not deal but its what I can do. For a short term measure for you until you reach your desired bf% then just suck it up and do it.

My split is

Delts and tris
Quads and hams
Back and bi's
Chest, calves and abs

[Dougiefresh7707]

K thanks guys I have been making great progress as is ,just wanted to know if me feeling this way is normal which I figured it was, also Im 15% right now got calipered which I know isn't the best so 2% or so in a month or so isn't bad to me without losing any lbm from what I can tell. I will just do my workouts on carb days.

[baseline_9]

It would look like this I'm a little worried of over training thought Sunday refeed leg, Monday carb day chest and bicep, Tuesday carb day back, wendsday carb day delts and tricep, Thursday rest day no carb, Friday no carb cardio, Saturday no carb cardio.

Don't worry about overtraining..... I'm currently doing a 3 on 1 off split and I'm fine.... I will just take a break every 8-10 weeks....

My recommendation would be to keep the diet more consistent and forget this whole carb cycling thing.... Just drop carbs down a little on non training days.... Don't get rid of them completely....

[Dougiefresh7707]

Don't worry about overtraining..... I'm currently doing a 3 on 1 off split and I'm fine.... I will just take a break every 8-10 weeks....

My recommendation would be to keep the diet more consistent and forget this whole carb cycling thing.... Just drop carbs down a little on non training days.... Don't get rid of them completely....

Thanks for the feedback I'm going to experiment a little today had 50g of carb pre workout an it helped. That is another way of carb cycling by just cutting down on none working days too as GB put it there is no right or wrong way to carb cycle so I may keep it to a low 50g on low days plus the little I he in the veggies too.

[cue_artist]

What are your current stats bro ? If you are above 10% carb cycling wouldnt be ideal . Are u on aas ?

[Dougiefresh7707]

What are your current stats bro ? If you are above 10% carb cycling wouldnt be ideal . Are u on aas ?

5'10 200 15% and yea test e only I'm no doing the no carb days ill just lower it on my off days I just jumped the gun and want Get to get down quick .

[--->>405<<---]

What are your current stats bro ? If you are above 10% carb cycling wouldnt be ideal . Are u on aas ?

cue im curious to why u would say this? what would u recommend instead of cycling carbs for someone at 12%bf looking to cut? standard diet and deficit? what advantages/disadvantages in ur opinion does someone over 10%bf have over someone under 10%bf which would make cycling carbs less than ideal?

[cue_artist]

cue im curious to why u would say this? what would u recommend instead of cycling carbs for someone at 12%bf looking to cut? standard diet and deficit? what advantages/disadvantages in ur opinion does someone over 10%bf have over someone under 10%bf which would make cycling carbs less than ideal?

The reason i say that you can lose some serious lbm when carb cycling if done for a long time . My trainer has me carb cycling only for the last 4 weeks before my contests .The carb cycle goes 1 high day and 6 low days at 100 g of carbs . During that phase we increase the fat intake by adding 10g of fats to the two last meals . I keep my carbs high all the way to the contest to preserve the most lbm and adjust them weeks by weak to so that i am losing 1-1.5 lb per weak . The advantages of this method is that you have alot of carbs during the start of your cut which will allow you to workout heavy all the way to the contest . This will also give you room to play with your macros whenever your weight stalls.The last four weaks you are low on carbs , so you keep your workouts short and try to focus on form contractions , and cardio. I hope that this explains your question

[cue_artist]

5'10 200 15% and yea test e only I'm no doing the no carb days ill just lower it on my off days I just jumped the gun and want Get to get down quick .

OP what are your goals ? And are u cutting for a specific event ? do u have time to cut bodyfat at a slow rate ?

[--->>405<<---]

The reason i say that you can lose some serious lbm when carb cycling if done for a long time . My trainer has me carb cycling only for the last 4 weeks before my contests .The carb cycle goes 1 high day and 6 low days at 100 g of carbs . During that phase we increase the fat intake by adding 10g of fats to the two last meals . I keep my carbs high all the way to the contest to preserve the most lbm and adjust them weeks by weak to so that i am losing 1-1.5 lb per weak . The advantages of this method is that you have alot of carbs during the start of your cut which will allow you to workout heavy all the way to the contest . This will also give you room to play with your macros whenever your weight stalls.The last four weaks you are low on carbs , so you keep your workouts short and try to focus on form contractions , and cardio. I hope that this explains your question

yeh it does, personally when cycling carbs for a cut i have only been running 2 days at 50g veggie only and then one high day at 300g starch.. i do all my training on "high" days and all my cardio the other days. i could see the prob running 6 days low..

[cue_artist]

I find your dieting method interesting. I might give it a try at the end of my bulking season. There are different methods of carb cycling . Most of them work , but you really need to monitor yourself day by day . Its so easy to lose lbm if you over train during that phase . But seriously 405 u have made some amazing progress bro !

[--->>405<<---]

^ thx dude ive found cycling carbs helps me maintain LBM due to being able to have high carb days more frequently while still dropping bf. i am also on TRT which may help keep LBM. ive only gotten as far as 9% though. Maybe next time ill get lower. I was pretty proud of hitting single digit bf though for an ole fat boy

Sorry for the hijack doug..

[Dougiefresh7707]

OP what are your goals ? And are u cutting for a specific event ? do u have time to cut bodyfat at a slow rate ?

No I would like to get into an event eventually but I can cut slowly which I should really do.

Goal is 200-205 10-12% preferably 10 lol by the end of this cycle. I don't know if this is a large order this is my first cycle. Also I have a log called dougies cutting log on member cycle thread if anyone would like to comment on it.

[Dougiefresh7707]

^ thx dude ive found cycling carbs helps me maintain LBM due to being able to have high carb days more frequently while still dropping bf. i am also on TRT which may help keep LBM. ive only gotten as far as 9% though. Maybe next time ill get lower. I was pretty proud of hitting single digit bf though for an ole fat boy

Sorry for the hijack doug..

No problem man I think if any member can get sometime out of anyone's thread it is a good one and 9% that awesome hopefully ill get there one day.

[cue_artist]

I will read into your other thread and reply tommorow

[Dougiefresh7707]

I will read into your other thread and reply tommorow

Thanks que