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    Thought I'd continue logging of my progress this year. The last 3 months have been logged in the Transformation Contest section and my own log can be found here

    http://forums.steroid.com/most-impro...n-my-play.html

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    This is now a continuation. I plan to bulk for the rest of the year, in as lean a manner as possible.

    Currently

    5'11.5"
    195lbs. (181lbs in my before photo above)
    10-12%bf
    41 years old

    My goal is to be approx 210lbs by years end at less than 15%.

    If everything else in my life goes to plan this years there will be at least 5 weeks where I will have issues with dieting correctly and training, which is about 20% of the time left this year.

    I will detail training and diet plans in the next 2 posts.
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    As I just gained 14lbs in 13 weeks and lost fat I am pretty much intending on running a maintenance diet for a couple of weeks before I start adding in calories. I'm still working out exactly what that is but I am somewhere close with

    Carbs 400g
    Pro 200g (225 on training days)
    Fats 50-60g

    That's a C/P/F ratio of approx 54/30/16

    That's a pretty low amount of protein to what most on here follow. I guess I'm trying to do 2 things with having it that low (was up to 300g during the contest). The first is that protein is expensive, and I'm skint, so I'm trying to save some money. The second is that it's a little experiment. Is it really going to make any difference by dropping my protein if I'm eating that many carbs? TBH, as soon as I am needing extra calories I will be adding another 25g each of pro and carbs.

    I will try and leave my fats where they are, any increase with that amount of carbs and I will gin more fat than I'd like. Perhaps when I need even more cals I will add some more fats. Ultimately though, all macro's will be under constant flux depending on results.

    So, maintenance calories because its prt of my bulking plan. Bulk, maintain, bulk maintain etc. I just bulked for 14 weeks and am in the 2nd week of maintenance. 2 more weeks of maintenance then slight calorie increase for 4 weeks then a 4 week prime before cycle (all being well).
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    I will be cycling my workouts, as well as my diet plan, throughout too.

    I just restarted a different version of HIT last week which I will run for probably 5 weeks before I revert back to a more straight sets approach.

    My current HIT workout is (I'm not detailing warm ups)

    Sunday - delts and tri's

    Smith machine military press
    One set 8-12 reps
    One double drop set

    Side lateral raise
    One double drop set

    Dumbell upright row
    One double drop set

    Front dumbell raise
    One set 8-12 reps
    One double drop set

    Reverse pec deck rear flyes
    One set 8-12 reps
    One double drop set

    Skull crushers
    3 sets 8-12 reps

    Tricep push downs
    One triple drop set

    Tuesday -Quads and hams

    Leg press
    One set 12-15 reps
    One set rest pause

    Hack squat
    One set 12-15 reps
    One DDS

    Lying leg curl
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set of rest pause

    Leg extensions
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Romanian deadlifts
    3 sets 8-12 reps

    Wednesday - chest, abs and calves

    Incline dumbell press
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Flat dumbell press
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Incline Flyes
    One DDS

    Pec deck flyes
    One set 8-12 reps

    Standing calf raise
    One set 8-15 reps
    One DDS

    Seated calf raise
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause

    Abs - leg raises and oblique work, changes each workout

    Friday -Back and biceps

    Seated neutral grip row
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause

    Cambered D ring pull down
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Seated wide grip row
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause

    Reverse grip pull down
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Hyper extensions
    3-4 sets 8-12 reps

    Standing dumbell curls
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Ez bar curls
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause
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    excellent work mate....looking really well in your avi!

    definitely a good idea keeping a log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by energizer bunny
    excellent work mate....looking really well in your avi!

    definitely a good idea keeping a log.
    Thanks buddy, at least I will have one reader
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    lol youl have loads man!.....just wrong time mate, only the British awake at this time, with all the dif time zones, its only 0230 by the clock on this site.

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    0311 to be exact ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by energizer bunny
    lol youl have loads man!.....just wrong time mate, only the British awake at this time, with all the dif time zones, its only 0230 by the clock on this site.
    You get more views with pictures I reckon, although changes aren't going to very noticeable very quickly so there won't be many I don't think. Maybe when I hit a milestone or 2.
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    I pictures are always good, only way to really gauge progress for the reader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Thanks buddy, at least I will have one reader
    make that 2 readers!

    when u planning another cycle?? me probably september ish

    my peptides came in (ghrp-2, mod grf, carnitine) so i start cutting monday.. probably 8 weeks cut, then maintain for a week or 2 maybe and then cycle.. itll be my first cycle too!

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    Happy to see you're still logging BinB!

    You're looking awesome!

    Will be following

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    make that 2 readers!

    when u planning another cycle?? me probably september ish

    my peptides came in (ghrp-2, mod grf, carnitine) so i start cutting monday.. probably 8 weeks cut, then maintain for a week or 2 maybe and then cycle.. itll be my first cycle too!
    All things being equal, September time for me too (dependant on getting a retail unit and/or sorting out my TRT)

    Use your cut as a prime and go straight into your cycle and bulk, trust me
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitz
    Happy to see you're still logging BinB!

    You're looking awesome!

    Will be following
    Thanks Twitz, the logging seemed to help last time around so I hope it will spur me onwards and upwards
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    Another thread for me to get engrossed in.

    Keep it going BiB!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr
    Another thread for me to get engrossed in.

    Keep it going BiB!
    Will do

    Took my little girl to the cinema for the first time ever this afternoon. Had some sweet popcorn

    Then had chilli beef ramen (which was pretty good in Terms of macros) with 6 tempura prawns (which weren't ) .slight adjustments made to the rest of today's meals and gonna make a homemade extra lean beef bolognese pizza for dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    All things being equal, September time for me too (dependant on getting a retail unit and/or sorting out my TRT)

    Use your cut as a prime and go straight into your cycle and bulk, trust me
    yes i had considered this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    yes i had considered this!
    Good

    What's your cycle, test and primo?
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    Yeah buddy! Subscribed. I might play copycat with your diet. Thanks for putting this up BIB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Yeah buddy! Subscribed. I might play copycat with your diet. Thanks for putting this up BIB!
    Ha ha, only if you want to lose LBM, youres bigger than me, remember
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Ha ha, only if you want to lose LBM, youres bigger than me, remember
    I know. But I will copy your meals! I've seen pictures!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    I know. But I will copy your meals! I've seen pictures!
    Oh yes! Maybe i'll post a full days worth of diet in picture form one day this week. That might upset you though, with all the cereal, milk and bread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Oh yes! Maybe i'll post a full days worth of diet in picture form one day this week. That might upset you though, with all the cereal, milk and bread
    lmao. I'm working on that problem. you'll help me through it
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    Just had a great shoulder and tricep workout. Despite the fact that I haven't been on cycle for a little while my lift are consistently going up. Every workout. I think that not having to train 4 days in a row, for the time being at least, will pay dividends in terms of recovery and progress.

    my gym has no heating for winter and no air con for summer. It has some glass panels in the roof which made it extremely warm today and it was on about 21c outside. Thankfully I normally train early morning which is beneficial, in summer at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    a homemade extra lean beef bolognese pizza for dinner.
    This sounds super!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Just had a great shoulder and tricep workout. Despite the fact that I haven't been on cycle for a little while my lift are consistently going up. Every workout. I think that not having to train 4 days in a row, for the time being at least, will pay dividends in terms of recovery and progress.

    my gym has no heating for winter and no air con for summer. It has some glass panels in the roof which made it extremely warm today and it was on about
    21c outside. Thankfully I normally train early morning
    which is beneficial, in summer at least

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    Nice to hear you're gaining strength, very lucky!!

    My gym is like that too... The sun just beams in and it's like a sauna. Hang in there!

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    Well hell. You know I'm going to have to follow this.

    How about the recipes for some of the meals as well. That would be much appreciated.

    You will look better with some size on ya . Now get big buddy.

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    I'm on this thread BinB and will also begin new cycle in September

    I'm on 227lb at the moment and at about 16-17% Bf

    Will continue with my current plan as usual until I hit 15% then plan for my next cycle

    Will watch your progress with interest my friend!!

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    Thanks guys, not sure I want to be any bigger than 210, guess I won't really know til I get there (it's been 20 years since I was, and in any kind of shape).

    Daddy daughter day today. Coffee shop for coffee and cake and a trip to the park, normally I love it but my hay fever is pretty bad at the moment. No doubt the cake will help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    I will be cycling my workouts, as well as my diet plan, throughout too.

    I just restarted a different version of HIT last week which I will run for probably 5 weeks before I revert back to a more straight sets approach.

    My current HIT workout is (I'm not detailing warm ups)

    Sunday - delts and tri's

    Smith machine military press
    One set 8-12 reps
    One double drop set

    Side lateral raise
    One double drop set

    Dumbell upright row
    One double drop set

    Front dumbell raise
    One set 8-12 reps
    One double drop set

    Reverse pec deck rear flyes
    One set 8-12 reps
    One double drop set

    Skull crushers
    3 sets 8-12 reps

    Tricep push downs
    One triple drop set

    Tuesday -Quads and hams

    Leg press
    One set 12-15 reps
    One DDS

    Hack squat
    One set 12-15 reps
    One DDS

    Lying leg curl
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set of rest pause

    Leg extensions
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Romanian deadlifts
    3 sets 8-12 reps

    Split squats
    One set each leg 8-12 reps

    Wednesday - chest, abs and calves

    Incline dumbell press
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Flat dumbell press
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Incline Flyes
    One DDS

    Pec deck flyes
    On set 8-12 reps

    Standing calf raise
    One set 8-15 reps
    One DDS

    Seated calf raise
    One set 812 reps
    One set rest pause

    Abs - leg raises and oblique work, changes each workout

    Friday -Back and biceps

    Seated neutral grip row
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause

    Cambered D ring pull down
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Seated wide grip row
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause

    Reverse grip pull down
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Hyper extensions
    3-4 sets 8-12 reps

    Standing dumbell curls
    One set 8-12 reps
    One DDS

    Ez bar curls
    One set 8-12 reps
    One set rest pause
    Looking good Bib, the only thing I would change is bring the reps down on the first working set to around 6-10 which should be hitting complete failure, this will make you use heavier weight which in turn will put more over load on your system which will force growth, thats the only think I would change. The double drops are excellent and make sure you leave nothing in the tank for the dropsets after the working set, a lot make this mistake thinking they got to dropset after this working set, but all you got to think about is going to complete failure on the working set which should hit around 6-8 reps only then dropset off that. Each dropset should be attacked the same done leave anything in the tank for the next drop set go to the maximum you can, take the body to total failure and push it into the pain zone to force growth.. looking good bib
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300

    Looking good Bib, the onlky think I would change is bring the reps down on the first working set to around 6-10 which should be hitting complete failure, this will make you use heavier weight which in turn will put more over load on your system which will force growth, thats the only think I would change. The double drops are excellent and make sure you leave nothing in the tank for the dropsets after the working set, a lot make this mistake thinking they got to dropset after this working set, but all you got to think about is going to complete failure on the working set which should hit around 6-8 reps only then dropset off that. Each dropset should be attacked the same done leave anything in the tank for the next drop set go to the maximum you can, take the body to total failure and push it into the pain zone to force growth.. looking good bib
    Thanks mate, my working set i take to positive failure every time (exception of Romanian deadlifts). My drop sets (and rest pause) I fail at 4-7 reps before dropping the weight. I actually prefer a rep range of 6-10 on a straight set so I may encourage myself to do that on most of the straight working sets that I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Thanks mate, my working set i take to positive failure every time (exception of Romanian deadlifts). My drop sets (and rest pause) I fail at 4-7 reps before dropping the weight. I actually prefer a rep range of 6-10 on a straight set so I may encourage myself to do that on most of the straight working sets that I do.
    sounds good, do what works for you mate but the main thing is to take your working set to positive failure and leave nothing in the tank for the next set, then drop set or rest pause, takes a heart of a lion but the results will very excellent.

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    Pre workout meal/shake. Powdered oats, strawberry WPC, cottage cheese. Plus 2g fish oil.

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    Legs day today, killed it. The last 5 or 6 weeks I've been suffering some anxiety before legs day, from the night before to the time of my first working set. But today I was looking forward to it since last night, like the good old days. Still my favourite workout of the week

    Made a mistake of not setting the back rest on the leg press properly which made the whole thing harder but still upped the weight on each set. All other exercises were up in weight and/or reps. Felt good, really good until my last exercise when I fatigued pretty quickly.

    No cardio today.
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    Immediately PWO I had 23g worth of protein from WPC.

    PPWO meal

    Tuna with low fat mayo and ketchup
    Apple
    Soft boiled egg
    Bran flakes with skim milk
    Cup of tea

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    Milk and sugar in the tea??

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
    Milk and sugar in the tea??
    A splash of skim milk only. Obviously I drink it with my pinky in the air
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    A splash of skim milk only. Obviously I drink it with my pinky in the air
    obviously.. my mom takes milk and sugar.. my wife gets irritated with my mom cuz every time she comes over my mom offers her milk and she doesnt drink milk in hers, but does drink sugar.. i only drink it iced and sweet with a lot of lemon.. have u tried it yet?? do i need to send u some iced tea bags??

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    obviously.. my mom takes milk and sugar.. my wife gets irritated with my mom cuz every time she comes over my mom offers her milk and she doesnt drink milk in hers, but does drink sugar.. i only drink it iced and sweet with a lot of lemon.. have u tried it yet?? do i need to send u some iced tea bags??
    Mate, it's never fvcking hot enough to drink iced tea here lol. I've never tried proper iced tea so what the hell, I will PM you my address
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