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    Day 2 down

    9:00 am 5 egg whites 2 slices of no fat cheese. 28/.5/5 120

    2:00 pm 4 oz. Halibut, 1 cup steamed broccoli 14/0/3 80 (not counting veggies)

    8:30 pm 1 cup 1% cottage cheese 26/10/3 160

    10:30 pm 4.5 oz. 93% ground, 1 slice no fat cheese 40/12/2 261


    108/22.5/13 721

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    Need to increase protein by about 40 grams still

    I'm going to bed a little hungry tonight. I can feel my stomach churning a bit but not completely unbearable by any stretch.

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    nice! you still have 79 cals to go, make it count!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    nice! you still have 79 cals to go, make it count!
    Pretty much maxed out in carbs and fat so I'm going to call it a night. Guess it makes up for being a bit over yesterday. I have a feeling tomorrow might offer a bit of a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Going off the principle that it takes a 3500 cal deficit to lose 1 pound there is no way Clen can shed weight that quickly. I have used it before and other than getting shaky ass hell, I didn't really notice any actual fat loss.

    I'm 245lbs and I would like to be 225ish. I would love to get that accomplished in 6 weeks but I'm not holding my breath. My problem isn't lack of know how..it's lack of discipline. Please don't confuse the 2.
    got that same problem...

    p.s. i think your crazy..lol... good luck..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    Its not about him undertaking a lifestyle change or not. Its the basic principle that he read up on this and thought this is a great idea to lose weight before a vacation.

    This style of dieting is not healthy and it actually sets your body back, and even thou i can only assume, i m pretty sure he wont be still dieting on their vacation. The very author of his program preaches over and over how diet leading into a binge is one of the worst things a person can do.

    But hey maybe im completely wrong that he will do a starvation diet, eat at maintenance for 2-3 week through their vacation then decide what he will do next when he comes home.

    Heck 405 you have a large log on dieting down to a respected bodyfat% and body comp only to go on a cruise or away and gain alot of weight back. Im not criticizing you for this, but are you happy with this style of dieting? are you happy when you look in the mirror after you have gone back up to 18% body fat, again THIS ISNT A PERSONAL ATTACK, i really am curious. Either way maybe you should have said something to him and shared some of your experience with him as it sounds like hes a mate of yours.

    You make a great point in regards to someone who wants to retain muscle and live a bodybuilding lifestyle I agree.

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    Just woke up. Feeling a little weak and nauseous. Stepped on the scale.....1 pound HEAVIER lol.

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    LOL.. lucky you

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    LOL.. lucky you
    Not the motivation I was hoping for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Not the motivation I was hoping for
    when is ur vacation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    when is ur vacation?
    End of Jan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Just woke up. Feeling a little weak and nauseous. Stepped on the scale.....1 pound HEAVIER lol.
    Take a pee. Or a crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    End of Jan.
    about the same time as mine. 2 pounds per week will give u 12 pounds loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    about the same time as mine. 2 pounds per week will give u 12 pounds loss.
    Glad to see your math skills are sharp this morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    Take a pee. Or a crap.
    Did both lol. Wasn't much there to account for weight loss lol. I'm assuming that there is an amount of time before I'm depleted of the carbs stores and switch over. I'm thinking that is starting to happen based on the energy level thus far this morning vs the last 2 days.

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    Any thoughts of adding to your trt dose during this period just to make sure you don't lose too much muscle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    Any thoughts of adding to your trt dose during this period just to make sure you don't lose too much muscle?

    I have just recently started trt and am still trying to get dosage and estrogen level dialed in. I am doing routine bloodwork so I prefer not to mess that up right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Glad to see your math skills are sharp this morning
    well actually i was implying u could achieve losses of 2lbs per week eating 2000cals per day more than likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I have just recently started trt and am still trying to get dosage and estrogen level dialed in. I am doing routine bloodwork so I prefer not to mess that up right now.
    u doing sub q or IM?? FYI IM for me and a year later and my E2 was still all over the place with an AI. switch to sub q and E2 leveled out with NO AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    well actually i was implying u could achieve losses of 2lbs per week eating 2000cals per day more than likely.
    I'm going to stick this out till I cant stand it or the results are not worth it. If I don't start seeing some results in the next few days than I may consider switching gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    u doing sub q or IM?? FYI IM for me and a year later and my E2 was still all over the place with an AI. switch to sub q and E2 leveled out with NO AI.
    I have bloodwork this week. I will see where things are at. I may consider that if I'm still having E2 issues.

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    My bad! 251 this a.m. puts me DOWN a pound I had to go back and look what my original start weight was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    My bad! 251 this a.m. puts me DOWN a pound I had to go back and look what my original start weight was.
    yay!!

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    If that wasn't laced with so much sarcasm, I would say thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    If that wasn't laced with so much sarcasm, I would say thank you
    there was some sincerity in there buddy geez.

    so should i take it u are doing IM right now on test injects?? i have been on TRT for 2 years now and the only time i do IM is if i want my E2 to climb because itll get kinda low.. my baseline pre TRT E2 was 24.. on sub q itll creep into the teens, so ill hit maybe every 3rd of 4th inject with IM to keep it up a bit. mainly cuz my shoulders will start to bother me, but that may not even be related to the E2 being lowish..

    ive definitely gotten a feel for my TRT protocol now though. if i want to stay within normal range i just run sub q .3mL (60mg) twice per week and total stays around 950 and free at 25-28..

    .4mL (80mg) twice per week will put me into the 1200-1500 range for total and 40-50 range for free.

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    Nice levels. I have been working with a PA that thinks she knows more than she does so I have been sticking with her prescribed protocol, doing bw then trying to educate her how to adjust properly.

    Started with 200mg 1X E2W (yeah I know). I explained to her the benefit of splitting the pins but used bw to prove my case. Test levels were in the 500's but estradiol was over 200 (nice huh)? After much arguing and her consults with 2 endo's, I finally got her to rx Adex. Now I'm splitting the pins and using the AI and have bw again this week. I'm hoping to show a need for a slight increase in test to get me at least in the 800's.

    I will def. take the sub q suggestion under advisement as I move forward with getting it all dialed in.

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    sub q has been a game changer for me man. it took me from out of control to completely into control.. literally.

    that E2 can be a tuffy otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Just woke up. Feeling a little weak and nauseous. Stepped on the scale.....1 pound HEAVIER lol.
    I would not weigh in more than once a week. Weight varies and and you can lose motivation.

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    Day #3

    8:00 a.m. 6 egg whites

    1:00 p.m. approx. 4 oz. deep fried chicken gizzards
    3 pieces of cheese, 2 pieces of roast beef, 2 pieces of turkey, 2 pieces of ham Small squares from a meat and cheese tray

    9:00 p.m. 1 bag low fat popcorn


    OK. Not the best day today but I'm sure it was still very low cals overall. I was assisting with a Toys for Tots program all day and the snack food was all that was available. I'm honestly happy I exercised as much constraint as I did. It could have been FAR worse.

    weight today.....249. Down 3 lbs

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    WTF are gizzards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    WTF are gizzards?
    Are Chicken Gizzards Healthy? | LIVESTRONG.COM

    Love em....

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    Love the gizzard! Liver too!

    On the grill with kc masterpiece hickory brown sugar bbq sauce!! Maybe to orrow nite

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    They are what they sound they are like. I'm not against offal but you are welcome to them. Livers yes but my cat gets most of the rest of the giblets.
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    Eewww yuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    Love the gizzard! Liver too!

    On the grill with kc masterpiece hickory brown sugar bbq sauce!! Maybe to orrow nite
    Me too, love them!

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    Like meat flavored bubble gum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Like meat flavored bubble gum
    LOL, yea little chewy but still good if cooked right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Like meat flavored bubble gum
    u know i have a mental block on swallowing bubble gum. you could offer me $1000 and i would not be able to swallow it!

    edit: (here it comes.. i can see it already, just wanted to get this in there before it happens..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    u know i have a mental block on swallowing. You could offer me $1000 and i would not be able to swallow it!

    edit: (here it cums.. i can see it already, just wanted to get this in there before it happens..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    thx pal..

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