Fasting?

[Psaletta]

Just a general question. I'm doing a 8 week intermediate fast. Eating from 10am-6pm 7 days a week. Tdee is 2800. I train 5 days a week and run 3 of those days for 2-3 miles each day. Not looking to "lose weight" just BF. I'm sitting at 195 15% 5'10. I have size. Just want to tighten up. My split is 40/40/20. Really just looking for thoughts on the fasting topic. Daily intake is 2500 except leg day I hit maintenance.

[slfmade]

Never heard of an "intermediate fast". Is that somewhere between a novice and expert fast? LOL I'm assuming you meant intermittent fast?

Not sure what kind of thoughts you're looking for. Some like it, some don't. At the end of the day you're running at a caloric deficit so you'll lose weight assuming your TDEE and total cals are calculated correctly.

[Psaletta]

Never heard of an "intermediate fast". Is that somewhere between a novice and expert fast? LOL I'm assuming you meant intermittent fast? Not sure what kind of thoughts you're looking for. Some like it, some don't. At the end of the day you're running at a caloric deficit so you'll lose weight assuming your TDEE and total cals are calculated correctly.

Haha. Yes. Sorry. Fat fingers. Just seeing if any of the guys have got good results from it in the sense of losing BF. I know I will drop weight. It's a given with the low cals I'm running prop to asst with keeping muscle mass. Thanks

[hellomycognomen]

In the end I doubt it will be any diff then just eating whenever and being at a deficit.

[jaxbrah]

In the end I doubt it will be any diff then just eating whenever and being at a deficit.

Well it works like this. For me, I fast from when I wake up at 5 am untill when I get home from work at 5pm and then eat untill around 9. Your body typically uses the food you have consumed for energies, especially sugar , carbs, and fats. Well what happenes when there is nome of that stuff to burn? It burns your stored fat instead. Its especially effective when your do your workout at rhe end of this phase because your body is burning its most calories of the day and your body is at its emptiest moment of the day. Maximises fat burned during your workout. Full efficiency.

Intermittent fasting as worked better for me than any thermogenic or other diets I have ever tried. Its definitely hard at first to get used to not eating the first 12 hours of your day but mother of god is that first meal at 5pm so much more glorious than ever before. When I intermittent fast I also do IIFYM and it works gloriously. I plan incorporating yohimbine at some point to go along with this. Not sure if I want to add to an ec stack or stick with it solo.

[hellomycognomen]

Well it works like this. For me, I fast from when I wake up at 5 am untill when I get home from work at 5pm and then eat untill around 9. Your body typically uses the food you have consumed for energies, especially sugar , carbs, and fats. Well what happenes when there is nome of that stuff to burn? It burns your stored fat instead. Its especially effective when your do your workout at rhe end of this phase because your body is burning its most calories of the day and your body is at its emptiest moment of the day. Maximises fat burned during your workout. Full efficiency.

Intermittent fasting as worked better for me than any thermogenic or other diets I have ever tried. Its definitely hard at first to get used to not eating the first 12 hours of your day but mother of god is that first meal at 5pm so much more glorious than ever before. When I intermittent fast I also do IIFYM and it works gloriously. I plan incorporating yohimbine at some point to go along with this. Not sure if I want to add to an ec stack or stick with it solo.

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I understand the concept and the idea of forcing the body to do some "metabolic cleaning" per say.

But based on your response are you still eating at a caloric deficit during your eating phase?

And do you feel any negative drag on your workout output?

Additionally I think you are really fasting from 9pm day before to 5pm next day if I understand you correctly, so its a 20 hour fast.

Consuming all your macros within a 4 hour period sounds a bit extreme to me.

[Docd187123]

Well it works like this. For me, I fast from when I wake up at 5 am untill when I get home from work at 5pm and then eat untill around 9. Your body typically uses the food you have consumed for energies, especially sugar , carbs, and fats. Well what happenes when there is nome of that stuff to burn? It burns your stored fat instead. Its especially effective when your do your workout at rhe end of this phase because your body is burning its most calories of the day and your body is at its emptiest moment of the day. Maximises fat burned during your workout. Full efficiency.

Intermittent fasting as worked better for me than any thermogenic or other diets I have ever tried. Its definitely hard at first to get used to not eating the first 12 hours of your day but mother of god is that first meal at 5pm so much more glorious than ever before. When I intermittent fast I also do IIFYM and it works gloriously. I plan incorporating yohimbine at some point to go along with this. Not sure if I want to add to an ec stack or stick with it solo.

Your statements are misleading. Yes you'll be oxidizing fat to use as energy during a fast but what happens when you end up taking the carbs and dietary fat during your feeding window? The fat will end up all being stored bc energy needs were met through stored fat. Net advantage=none. Fat loss doesn't happen in an acute setting bc the body constantly goes through fat loss and storage processes. Rather the chronic setting and a maintained deficit is what counts. There is no metabolic advantage to IF over any other type of logical dieting.

[--->>405<<---]

Your statements are misleading. Yes you'll be oxidizing fat to use as energy during a fast but what happens when you end up taking the carbs and dietary fat during your feeding window? The fat will end up all being stored bc energy needs were met through stored fat. Net advantage=none. Fat loss doesn't happen in an acute setting bc the body constantly goes through fat loss and storage processes. Rather the chronic setting and a maintained deficit is what counts. There is no metabolic advantage to IF over any other type of logical dieting.

what if ur first meal happens to contain 200mcg Cytomel??

[Docd187123]

what if ur first meal happens to contain 200mcg Cytomel??

Lmao, my overnight fast ends with 125mcg cytomel and a meal about 2hrs later lol.

[V-ROID]

Well it works like this. For me, I fast from when I wake up at 5 am untill when I get home from work at 5pm and then eat untill around 9. Your body typically uses the food you have consumed for energies, especially sugar , carbs, and fats. Well what happenes when there is nome of that stuff to burn? It burns your stored fat instead. Its especially effective when your do your workout at rhe end of this phase because your body is burning its most calories of the day and your body is at its emptiest moment of the day. Maximises fat burned during your workout. Full efficiency.

Intermittent fasting as worked better for me than any thermogenic or other diets I have ever tried. Its definitely hard at first to get used to not eating the first 12 hours of your day but mother of god is that first meal at 5pm so much more glorious than ever before. When I intermittent fast I also do IIFYM and it works gloriously. I plan incorporating yohimbine at some point to go along with this. Not sure if I want to add to an ec stack or stick with it solo.

This is pretty much exactly what I have been doing for the last couple years. My window is roughly 5:30-8:30pm but sometimes I cheat on the weekend. When I cheat I feel sluggish and definitely prefer exercising in the afternoons after fasting all day. Just water and black coffee until dinner when I gorge. Then it's usually hot tub or sauna and sleep like a baby until 5am and do it again. In the first 6 months or so the fat loss was great but my body has adjusted and now maintains steady weight. No deficit for me but I quit counting calories a while back. It does make it easier to pull off a deficit for me if I want to, easier than several small meals. Doing IF is also supposed to raise HGH level but never had it tested. Heading out in a bit to do some hill sprints on zero calories for the day.

[ironbeck]

5'9"218 12%

[Docd187123]

This is pretty much exactly what I have been doing for the last couple years. My window is roughly 5:30-8:30pm but sometimes I cheat on the weekend. When I cheat I feel sluggish and definitely prefer exercising in the afternoons after fasting all day. Just water and black coffee until dinner when I gorge. Then it's usually hot tub or sauna and sleep like a baby until 5am and do it again. In the first 6 months or so the fat loss was great but my body has adjusted and now maintains steady weight. No deficit for me but I quit counting calories a while back. It does make it easier to pull off a deficit for me if I want to, easier than several small meals. Doing IF is also supposed to raise HGH level but never had it tested. Heading out in a bit to do some hill sprints on zero calories for the day.

Typically it requires a 24hr fast to creat statistically significant increases in GH output but the biggest increase is seen after 5days of fasting. It's also not been shown to be clinically significant, as in make a difference, kind of like the whole 'don't eat carbs at night bc it lowers GH output' argument.

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im no expert on fasting, but there (from some of the stuff ive read) is evidence that supports hormonal changes that occur at certain times during a fast which may prove beneficial to not only maintaining a lean physique, but also longevity, and maybe some other stuff too.

i currently fast (with the exception of my coffee and creamer which technically breaks it i believe) until PWO around 1300. this helps me have larger sized meals during a cut cuz im a hungry mofo!

good luck. fasting can be a valuable resource for hunger/appetite management.

[tarmyg]

i currently fast (with the exception of my coffee and creamer which technically breaks it i believe) until PWO around 1300. this helps me have larger sized meals during a cut cuz im a hungry mofo!

I do exactly ​the same :-) Funny!

[David LoPan]

Well I am a total perv, I mis read the title and say Fisting.....

[Psaletta]

It has been ok so far. My regimen is stop eating at 6pm until 10am. Yesterday was leg day and I normally train at 8am. It was a struggle to say the least. I got great pumps and very good lifts but about half way through I was beat to shit. This is the first time in a week it has really effected my work out. I'm going to try and do legs mid day next round to make sure I have some cals in me and go from there. Besides that it's going well. The lady friend is pregnant, so when she is pounding ice cream at 9pm it's gets a little rough but the results will be worth it.

[ironbeck]

The only time i ever fasted was back in the day when I would get a ball of cocaine on Friday after work lol, wait 18 beers breaks the fast rule.....nevermind

[Psaletta]

What about adding a bit of clen to the fast? I have a full btl. I ran it before it got to 10mcg and hated it. I was thinking 30-40mcg ED for 2 weeks to assist.