Breast milk when cutting?

[goatofthunder]

Hi guys.

I´m currently cutting but since my wife is breastfeeding, I have access to breast milk.
I know breast milk is supposedly great for bodybuilder´s gains, but would it be worth the extra kcal´s while cutting?

[RaginCajun]

yes, now suck on that tit!!!

[goatofthunder]

Hehe, that´s my favorite part

[Times Roman]

I'm a little curious. Wouldn't that deplete her milk supply when it should be going to the baby?

[DCI]

This thread reminds me of the film pain and gain and the rock in the strip club scene lol

[goatofthunder]

I'm a little curious. Wouldn't that deplete her milk supply when it should be going to the baby?

Not at all, the more she "milks" the more she makes.
I´ve heard that the breast milk contains HGH, thought it might be great to take advatage of that, but dairy and cutting are the only issue.

Macros for breast milk are aprox

Pro 1,4 gr
Carb 7,7 gr
Fat 4,2 gr

Per 100 ml....

[DCI]

Admit it you watched Pain and Gain and thought it was a educational film?

[clarky.]

Bottle it up xxAndreaxx will buy it from you sounds like you two will get on quite good.

[tarmyg]

You are an professional bodybuilder trying to squeeze that last bit of muscle out of your body. You are an olympic athlete and this will bring you the next gold. You have previously tried everything and this is your last ditch effort to winning as everything else have failed. The idea of drinking breast milk gives you a hard on. Which is it?

[tarmyg]

I´ve heard that the breast milk contains HGH

This is what you should base everything off on, what you have heard somewhere. Solid stuff brother ;-)

[Sicko]

I have tried it...not for BB purposes...just for curiosity...not bad kinda sweet actually but I would have a difficult time making a meal out of it regardless of its benefits.

[goatofthunder]

I just don´t get why people think this is gross! Do you think it´s less gross to drink milk from a cow then a woman? besides, if you mix it in a smoothie with whey, it´s plain awesome, I´d drink urine if it had some magical bodybuilding benefits, not saying breast milk is magic though. I would appreciate if people would focus on the question which is " is breast milk good for you if you are cutting" not do you think it´s gross to drink breast milk.

[Sicko]

I just don´t get why people think this is gross! Do you think it´s less gross to drink milk from a cow then a woman? besides, if you mix it in a smoothie with whey, it´s plain awesome, I´d drink urine if it had some magical bodybuilding benefits, not saying breast milk is magic though. I would appreciate if people would focus on the question which is " is breast milk good for you if you are cutting" not do you think it´s gross to drink breast milk.

with all due respect goat...I think it will be hard to get a opinion on this subject outside of if one thinks it is gross, erogenous, right or wrong...I highly doubt there are many people/BB that have made breast milk a part of their daily macros to give you the answer you are looking for. But if it helps their are sites that sell breast milk, maybe you could ask them their opinion.
Breast milk is designed for the fat needs of a infant it really does not do any good for an adult because as adults we have many forms of food we can derive the same and more nutrients from without milking your wife...unless you both are into it then who cares what we think right???

[DCI]

I don't think anyone has said it was disgusting etc just its hilarious you think theres HGH, in breast milk

[hellomycognomen]

"Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer. " -Arnold

[Times Roman]

Not at all, the more she "milks" the more she makes.
I´ve heard that the breast milk contains HGH, thought it might be great to take advatage of that, but dairy and cutting are the only issue.

Macros for breast milk are aprox

Pro 1,4 gr
Carb 7,7 gr
Fat 4,2 gr

Per 100 ml....

HGH is an extremely fragile molecule, and will deteriorate easily over time, or due to too warm, or due to getting shaken up too much.

Now, suppose you are right and mothers breast milk does contain HGH. So you drink the HGH, and it goes into this acidic cauldron called your stomach. From there, it becomes subject to a very alkaline environment. Between the both, the odds of your body absorbing anything other than GH fragments is zero. Your body will destroy any HGH from the milk. This is absolutely true, else everyone would be taking HGH orally, instead of injecting it.

So, do not expect any GH benefit from mothers milk, whether present (extremely doubtful) or not.

Sorry!
---Roman

[tarmyg]

Ok goatofthunder, I thought you were kind of joking but since you are (obviously) being serious I had to read up on this, for me, unknown subject. Just simple thinking (without reading) should conclude that the amount of breast milk one need to drink to get any benefits is quite large. I mean, we are talking about feeding an infant of a few pounds compared to a grown individual.

But, here we go:

The nutritional value of breast milk varies greatly from which time of day you consume it and at which point during the feeding you measure it. Milk composition changes from the beginning of a feeding to the end, diurnally, from day to day, and with the onset and progression of lactation. As an example, within one woman, the fat content of milk increases from the beginning to the end of a single nursing; it differs by as much as 20 g/liter in 24-hour collections on subsequent days, it differs from lactation to lactation in a nonconsistent manner, and it is influenced by the length of time between sample collection. Variations have been observed from woman to woman, although variations are also found in different samples obtained from the same woman.

Here are some estimates of the Concentrations of Nutrients in Mature Human Milk.

Nutrient	Amount in Human Milk	Nutrient	Amount in Human Milk
	g/liter ± SD		µg/liter ± SD
Lactose	72.0 ± 2.5	Vitamin A, RE	670 ± 200
Protein	10.5 ± 2.0		(2,230 IU)
Fat	39.0 ± 4.0	Vitamin D	0.55 ± 0.10
	mg/liter ± SD	Vitamin K	2.1 ± 0.1
Calcium	280 ± 26	Folate	85 ± 37
Phosphorus	140 ± 22	Vitamin B12	0.97
Magnesium	35 ± 2	Biotin	4 ± 1
Sodium	180 ± 40	Iodine	110 ± 40
Potassium	525 ± 35	Selenium	20 ± 5
Chloride	420 ± 60	Manganese	6 ± 2
Iron	0.3 ± 0.1	Fluoride	16 ± 5
Zinc	1.2 ± 0.2	Chromium	50 ± 5
Copper	0.25 ± 0.03	Molybdenum	NR
Vitamin E	2.3 ± 1.0
Vitamin C	40 ± 10
Thiamin	0.210 ± 0.035
Riboflavin	0.350 ± 0.025
Niacin	1.500 ± 0.200
Vitamin B6	93 ± 8
Pantothenic acid	1.800 ± 0.200

Human milk contains many hormones, growth factors, and inducers of certain biologic processes (see reviews by Koldovskỳ [1989] and Koldovskỳ et al. [1987]). The hormones include cortisol (Koldovskỳ [1989]), somatostatin (Werner et al., 1985), insulin (Cevreska et al., 1975), thyroid hormones, and the lactogenic hormones oxytocin (Leake et al., 1981) and prolactin (Healy et al., 1980). There is agreement among investigators concerning the measurement of most of these agents, but there is considerable disagreement regarding measurement of thyroid hormones and some others (see review by Koldovskỳ et al. [1987]). The growth factors include epidermal growth factor (Carpenter, 1980), insulin (Cevreska et al., 1975), lactoferrin (Nichols et al., 1987), and factors that are specifically derived from the mammary gland epithelium (Kidwell et al., 1987). There is laboratory evidence for the presence of activators of monocytes such as tumor necrosis factor-β (Mushtaha et al., 1989a,b). Bendich and coworkers (1984) and Tengerdy et al. (1981) presented evidence that the vitamin α-tocopherol in human milk may stimulate the immune system in the infant. Zimecki and coworkers (1987) reported that certain protein fractions in human milk may aid in generating helper cell responses and in performing other immunoregulatory functions. Finally, the presence of anti-idiotypic antibodies in milk may act as immunizing agents; these antibodies mimic other antibodies in the infant that in turn are directed against the original stimulating microbial antigens in the mother; thus, they may be natural, safe immunizing agents (Okamoto and Ogra, 1989).

I want to point out that no funds have been allocated to study breast milk consumption among adults so there is not much to find there.

But there you go, as far as I can tell no HGH. Should you feel the need to really dig in (I could not get through the whole thing) feel free to buy the book "Nutrition During Lactation" and if you find other answers post them here. I always want to learn more.

Thanks
~T

[goatofthunder]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=138482993

This is what originally made me think about doing this.