debate with my roommate.

**kyawookie** · 09-01-2014, 11:55 PM

So my roommate is going to school for a nutritional degree and when I asked him what he worked out on Wednesday it sparked a conversation. I told him I had a set lifting schedule and a set macro daily total I meet based on how active I am that day. He said "with all due respect your retarded that's a horrible idea". He then went on to tell me that he eats and trains based on how he feels. So he would workout what muscle group he feels like training that day. And eats based on how he feels he should eat that day. He is going to school for this stuff but it sounds ass backwards to me. Thoughts anyone? Should I change my ways?

**Khazima** · 09-02-2014, 01:46 AM

If he's trying to bulk and he feels like eating 1000 calories every day when his TDEE is 2000, he's gonna have a bad time.

I see it over and over people eat how they feel and they don't get the results they desire. As for training what he feels like training, I bet it's chest and biceps daily right?

You're on the right track, wait a few weeks/months and let the results speak for themselves.

**pushit_05** · 09-02-2014, 02:21 AM

I mean biofeedback has merit but I doubt that's that your friend is talking about. I think most of us build our programs around time and recovery and just do the best we can to hit everything in the time frame.

**kyawookie** · 09-02-2014, 02:32 AM

That's exactly how I was kind of thinking I'm going to stick to what the people say on here and let the results speak for themselves. I would have normally disregarded it right away but he is going to school for it (he hasn't been going to long) so I thought he might have been onto some ground breaking stuff hahaha. I just thought the whole conversation was quite comical.

**Khazima** · 09-02-2014, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by kyawookie

That's exactly how I was kind of thinking I'm going to stick to what the people say on here and let the results speak for themselves. I would have normally disregarded it right away but he is going to school for it (he hasn't been going to long) so I thought he might have been onto some ground breaking stuff hahaha. I just thought the whole conversation was quite comical.

It is a comical conversation lol I've had it with a few people, who think they're going to cut/bulk by feel, then gain/lose no weight and look for any other reason except for the fact they're not eating above/below their TDEE.

Training by feel is ok but sticking to a program is always going to yield better results until you know your body extremely well.

I'm currently doing a PT course and everyone in my class has completed the first certificate, are certified gym instructors and about to be personal trainers in a few weeks, most of them know next to nothing. They know a few things to pass some tests but their training and diet is absolutely terrible, we've been in the course for 8 months and 80% of them have made no real progress what so ever. So don't be too quick to think people with the qualifications or people doing the schooling know what they're talking about.

**--->>405<<---** · 09-02-2014, 06:21 AM

ur friend sounds like an idiot.

if u want to have predictable results, u need a detailed strategy which includes training, diet, cardio... anyone with half a brain knows that.

**tarmyg** · 09-02-2014, 06:46 AM

I suggest you set a calendar event for 2035 and see who is right. The guy who ate anything and trained what he felt like or the guy with a plan.

**kelkel** · 09-02-2014, 06:48 AM

If people ate based on "feel" most would never gain any substantial LBM.
Hell, it would be nice to eat less and gain more but that's just not in the cards....
It's uncomfortable at times eating as much as needed to make gains...but you do what you have to do.

**Myers** · 09-02-2014, 12:19 PM

Problem is people are ignorant , like 90% of ppl that go to the gym i'm currently at got no clue about proper nutrition plan , they just eat how they "feel" , even 1 guy that's on insulin and test/deca for months has literally no clue why he has stopped growing and keeps adding more compounds to his cycles ...

Just tell your friend to come to these forums , he can learn more here than in that nutrition "school".

**Joco71** · 09-02-2014, 12:35 PM

Same old story different person, different day!! LOL!

**RangerDanger830** · 09-04-2014, 07:16 PM

If I ate how I felt I would be in a Mexican restaurant downing margaritas and chips and salsa every day and topping the day off with a pizza.

**Schwarzenegger** · 09-06-2014, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by RangerDanger830

If I ate how I felt I would be in a Mexican restaurant downing margaritas and chips and salsa every day and topping the day off with a pizza.

You mean professional bodybuilders don't eat like that? Who woulda thought

**Lifted1** · 09-06-2014, 01:35 PM

there's plenty of jerkoffs with a piece of paper and "trainer" t-shirt that think they know everything...

**RangerDanger830** · 09-06-2014, 02:11 PM

If I had a dollar for every PT I heard in the gym giving bad advice I would have around $437.

**< <Samson> >** · 09-06-2014, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by RangerDanger830

If I had a dollar for every PT I heard in the gym giving bad advice I would have around $437.

Ain't this the truth

I am working on my cert now & seeing & hearing some of these clowns is just amazing.

With no certification or pro experience I can still run these clowns through the gutter.

Just last week I did a nutrition consult for a guy working at a gym. He said when he asks the trainers for advice they all say the same thing "just work out". Such BS

I am 90% self taught, just started taking nutrition classes.

I can barely keep my mouth shut when I hear the crap these jokers say.

**Times Roman** · 09-06-2014, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by kyawookie

So my roommate is going to school for a nutritional degree and when I asked him what he worked out on Wednesday it sparked a conversation. I told him I had a set lifting schedule and a set macro daily total I meet based on how active I am that day. He said "with all due respect your retarded that's a horrible idea". He then went on to tell me that he eats and trains based on how he feels. So he would workout what muscle group he feels like training that day. And eats based on how he feels he should eat that day. He is going to school for this stuff but it sounds ass backwards to me. Thoughts anyone? Should I change my ways?

a nutritionist is schooled on nutrition and populations in general. definitely not for body builders. For starters, our protein needs are about double of what the average person needs. Now, a sports nutritionist would be more closely aligned, but still not quite.

Sorry, your roommate is talking out his ass.