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    Where does our fat go when we 'lose it'?

    Really interesting article i came across on facebook, posted by multiple pages. Seems to be turning a few heads.

    This is where body fat ends up when you lose weight - ScienceAlert

    This is where body fat ends up when you lose weight

    Breathe deeply, new Australian research shows that it’s going to take a lot of exhaling to get rid of that excess fat.
    FIONA MACDONALD 17 DEC 2014
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    Despite society’s obsession with weight loss, a new study reveals that, surprisingly, most health professionals don’t actually know what happens to fat when we “lose it”.

    The research conducted by a team at UNSW Science in Sydney calculated exactly what happens to our fat when we shed kilos, and revealed that doctor's leading theories are wrong - we don’t convert our missing mass into heat or energy, we breathe it out.

    Their results, published in the British Medical Journal, reveal that 10 kg of fat turns into 8.4 kg of carbon dioxide, which is exhaled when we breathe, and 1.6 kg of water, which we then excrete through our urine, tears, sweat and other bodily fluids.


    “The correct answer is that most of the mass is breathed out as carbon dioxide. It goes into thin air,” said lead author of the paper Ruben Meerman, a physicist and TV presenter, in a press release.

    Meerman first became interested in the biochemistry of weight loss when he dropped 15 kg - but when he asked doctors where this weight went, he was surprised by the fact no one could tell him.

    After surveying 150 doctors, dieticians and personal trainers, he discovered that more than half thought that fat was converted into heat or energy as we break it down.

    But, as a physicist, Meerman knew that this would violate the Law of Conservation of Mass.

    To figure out the answer once and for all, Meerman partnered with Andrew Brown, head of the UNSW School of Biotechnology and Biomolecular Sciences, and the team started calculating the biomolecular reactions that result in weight loss.

    We put on weight when excess carbohydrates and proteins that we've eaten are converted into triglycerides (compounds made up of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen) and are then stored in lipid droplets inside fat cells. To lose weight, you need to break down those triglycerides to access their carbon.

    The results showed that in order to completely breakdown 10kg of human fat, we need to inhale 29 kg of oxygen (and somewhere along the way, burn 94,000 calories). This reaction produces 28 kg of CO2 and 11 kg of water.

    “Our calculations show that the lungs are the primary excretory organ for fat,” the team writes in the paper.

    However, they couldn’t work out exactly what was happening to the fat cells in this reaction. After months of research, Brown discovered a formula from a paper published in 1949 that solved the problem - it showed that oxygen atoms are shared between the carbon and hydrogen in fat at a ratio of 2:1 (forming carbon dioxide and water)

    This allowed them to come up with the final figure of 84 percent of a fat molecule’s atoms being exhaled as carbon dioxide, and the remaining 16 percent ending up as water.

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    Meerman and Brown, BMJ (2014)

    But unfortunately this doesn’t mean that simply breathing deeply will help us lose weight - we still need to do the exercise to unlock the carbon and break down the fat in the first place.

    "You can only breathe so many times a day; on a day of rest, you breathe around 12 times a minute so 17,280 times you'll breathe in a day and each one takes 10 milligrams of carbon with it, roughly," Meerman told ABC Science. "So there's your limit on how much you're going to lose in a day with no exercise."

    But will all this fat we’re breathing out will contribute to climate change? The short answer is no.

    “This reveals troubling misconceptions about global warming which is caused by unlocking the ancient carbon atoms trapped underground in fossilised organisms. The carbon atoms human beings exhale are returning to the atmosphere after just a few months or years trapped in food that was made by a plant,” said Meerman in the release.

    The funny thing about all of this is that, although most health professionals don’t know what happens to fat when we lose weight, most Veritasium viewers probably do. In fact, as this mind-blowing video below explains, not only do we lose our "lost" fat through breathing, if we were in a closed system, we would actually become trees.


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    Just like a car. Ever wonder why water comes out of a tailpipe of a car? Combustion produces water when the carbon chain is broken. CO2 is the other major production.

    Organic Chemistry 101

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    Sounds like heavy breathing is a winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Sounds like heavy breathing is a winner
    I was under the impression that the fat cells stay......so are we really losing fat or just depleting...for now.

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    You don't want to know where I thought it went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Just like a car. Ever wonder why water comes out of a tailpipe of a car? Combustion produces water when the carbon chain is broken. CO2 is the other major production.

    Organic Chemistry 101
    I think you mean CO for a car the catalytic converter converts it into co2.

    Cool read K man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    I was under the impression that the fat cells stay......so are we really losing fat or just depleting...for now.
    "We put on weight when excess carbohydrates and proteins that we've eaten are converted into triglycerides (compounds made up of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen) and are then stored in lipid droplets inside fat cells. To lose weight, you need to break down those triglycerides to access their carbon."

    We do keep them, they still shrink. This renews the way we look at weight loss IMO, so many questions.

    It's been accepted for so long that the fat is broken down for energy but this is not the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazima View Post

    "We put on weight when excess carbohydrates and proteins that we've eaten are converted into triglycerides (compounds made up of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen) and are then stored in lipid droplets inside fat cells. To lose weight, you need to break down those triglycerides to access their carbon."

    We do keep them, they still shrink. This renews the way we look at weight loss IMO, so many questions.

    It's been accepted for so long that the fat is broken down for energy but this is not the case.
    The fat cell.........something in life that you can truly call your own!

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    So, I guess I'm not breathing around fat people any more.....
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    Hmm....i don't know about this.

    What happens if you have all your fat cells sucked out (lipo)?

    This article seems to suggest that if you do enough cardio, your fat cells will be BLOWN OUT through heavy breathing. Not to sure about that. I've seen ppl lose weight, and then gain it right back (and what do you know, they looked like the same fat person they were before)

    Also, not too keen on becoming a tree (wtf) ?

    LOL...anyway, its an interesting concept. I know the more cardio i do, the more i lose around the waist.

    Now...does this mean that SMOKERS who absorb less oxygen due the destruction of Lung Tissue are more likely to be fat?

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    oh

    I was thinking when we "lost" fat it went to Walmart...........

    .............it sure seems like it's everywhere when I go in there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    oh

    I was thinking when we "lost" fat it went to Walmart...........

    .............it sure seems like it's everywhere when I go in there!
    Huh.......I thought that was a special type of fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    So, I guess I'm not breathing around fat people any more.....
    This is deep. LoL!

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    actually you lose fat through your dick and bung hole.
    haha when you lose fat i think they turn into ketones and you either pee it or poop it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatalflame View Post
    actually you lose fat through your dick and bung hole.
    haha when you lose fat i think they turn into ketones and you either pee it or poop it out
    The article mentions that a small portion is excreted in those ways, as well as through sweat but the majority of it is exhaled through the lungs.

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    Btw you guys know you can actually get some adult stem cells from white adipose tissue? That's what i've learned a few weeks ago at uni

    How did they learn about that ? Well smartass plastic surgeons decided to put some white adipose tissue in faces of a few women , as a cosmetic treatment ofc , aaaand fun fact they ended up having tumors all across their faces lawl.

    Oh yea and u do get energy from lipid droplets , you get some carbon (C) to build your own stuff , some of the stuff goes trough various cycles and you get some Adenosine triphosphate and more stuff , release of energy from breaking bonds between molecules,atoms etc..

    I've just taken my 600 hundred pages biochemistry book i need to finish studying till 18th january so i guess im gonna start posting some interesting stuff here soon , gonna be studying those lipids tomorrow , finished carbs today lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myers View Post
    Btw you guys know you can actually get some adult stem cells from white adipose tissue? That's what i've learned a few weeks ago at uni

    How did they learn about that ? Well smartass plastic surgeons decided to put some white adipose tissue in faces of a few women , as a cosmetic treatment ofc , aaaand fun fact they ended up having tumors all across their faces lawl.

    Oh yea and u do get energy from lipid droplets , you get some carbon (C) to build your own stuff , some of the stuff goes trough various cycles and you get some Adenosine triphosphate and more stuff , release of energy from breaking bonds between molecules,atoms etc..

    I've just taken my 600 hundred pages biochemistry book i need to finish studying till 18th january so i guess im gonna start posting some interesting stuff here soon , gonna be studying those lipids tomorrow , finished carbs today lol
    Awsome man I'll be super interested to learn from you

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    breathing out fat? truth is stranger than fiction

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