Should I bulk or cut?

[Chunnnky]

I had been bulking for around 2 months now, I gained around 4kg
I got a teen competition coming up around march and I need to work on my chest which is REALLY lacking, I have clen ready for my cutting cycle.
I want to know that If I should continue bulking and work on my chest or start to cut now?
And I would also like to know how long do I need to cut to around 8-9% BF do I need to start cutting around feb?
And I am 18 btw

[Bio-Active]

You need to start your cut soon

[Chunnnky]

I am around 16% bf right now right?
Ahhh I am really stressing, cause of my chest, it is not gonna be enough if I start to cut now

[Bio-Active]

I am around 16% bf right now right?
Ahhh I am really stressing, cause of my chest, it is not gonna be enough if I start to cut now

Your chest will look bigger after you cut

[Chunnnky]

So if my competition is on march 7 when should i start cutting?
It is gonna be my first competition btw so I am not really sure, cause this is the first time I have a time limit

[Chunnnky]

My inner chest is really weak look at the space in between

[Bio-Active]

So if my competition is on march 7 when should i start cutting?
It is gonna be my first competition btw so I am not really sure, cause this is the first time I have a time limit

I like to start my cut 13 weeks out. Gives you plenty of time to make adjustments

[Bio-Active]

My inner chest is really weak look at the space in between

Concentrate on doing flys on your chest day. Like I said the leaner you get the bigger you will look on stage

[Chunnnky]

So I should start cutting right now?

[Back In Black]

That's 8 weeks away. You need to start cutting before today so you don't have to cut too fast and risk too much muscle loss.

As Bio says, as you lose that fat you will look more impressive.

What is your diet plan?

[Chunnnky]

What should be my diet If I am 68kg, 5.4 when cutting

[Chunnnky]

I am eating 3.3k calories per day right now
I think for my height and weight my maintenace is about 3k calories?
I plan to have a intake of 2.4k cals per day for my cut

[Back In Black]

You don't have a plan?

What are your real life maintenance calories for your currently and how much cardio have you been doing?

[Chunnnky]

Wait I typed wrong Its on April 7

[Bio-Active]

Lets see that nutrition plan with macros

[Chunnnky]

You don't have a plan?

What are your real life maintenance calories for your currently and how much cardio have you been doing?

Sad to say I don't really have a plan I have much to learn, basically someone told me to join the competition cause its aged 14-18.
I think my maintenance is 2.7k to 2.8k
I had been taking 3.3k cals for my bulk.
I thought I only need like 6 weeks to cut so I did not bother coming up with a diet plan yet.
What should be my diet plan when I am on Clen when cutting taking 40 mcg and tapering it up to 60 or 80 for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off?

[Chunnnky]

Lets see that nutrition plan with macros

one sec typing it right away

[Bio-Active]

Sad to say I don't really have a plan I have much to learn, basically someone told me to join the competition cause its aged 14-18.
I think my maintenance is 2.7k to 2.8k
I had been taking 3.3k cals for my bulk.
I thought I only need like 6 weeks to cut so I did not bother coming up with a diet plan yet.
What should be my diet plan when I am on Clen when cutting taking 40 mcg and tapering it up to 60 or 80 for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off?

Oh boy this is gonna make being ready for a show in 8 weeks really tough. You better hit the nutrition section and get on a plan

[Chunnnky]

Current bulking diet
Meal 1- 6 boiled egg white with 700 cal mass gainer, Bcaa
Meal 2 - Rice and boiled Chicken breast
Meal 3- Boiled Chicken Breast, Tuna and rice
Pre Workout- 1 scoop myoblitz 1 scoop assault, Bcaa, nitrogen oxide
Workout
Post workout- Protein Shake
Meal4- Pasta, Prawns, Brocolli
Meal5- 5 Eggs, 700 cal mass gainer ( before bed )

[Chunnnky]

Oh boy this is gonna make being ready for a show in 8 weeks really tough. You better hit the nutrition section and get on a plan

Sorry its around 11 weeks, I typed the wrong date. ahahah I am already prepared to crash and burn for my first competition, good opportunity to get some experience imo

[Back In Black]

Oh boy this is gonna make being ready for a show in 8 weeks really tough. You better hit the nutrition section and get on a plan

Lol, I think you got lost this is the diet section

April 7th not March is much better so 12 weeks is a much healthier way of doing it. Hold off on the clen , 12 weeks for you to drop around 12lbs of fat is doable without.

How much cardio have you been doing?

[Chunnnky]

Lol, I think you got lost this is the diet section

April 7th not March is much better so 12 weeks is a much healthier way of doing it. Hold off on the clen , 12 weeks for you to drop around 12lbs of fat is doable without.

How much cardio have you been doing?

why hold off on the clen?
I had been doing low intensity high duration (30mins) on the treadmill 2 times a week

[Bio-Active]

Lol, I think you got lost this is the diet section

April 7th not March is much better so 12 weeks is a much healthier way of doing it. Hold off on the clen , 12 weeks for you to drop around 12lbs of fat is doable without.

How much cardio have you been doing?

Oops I did. Op do you know the macros for each meal? Those mass gainer shakes got to go away

[Bio-Active]

why hold off on the clen ?
I had been doing low intensity high duration (30mins) on the treadmill 2 times a week

2 days on the treadmill will not be enough I do 40 minutes 5 days ew

[Chunnnky]

Oops I did. Op do you know the macros for each meal? Those mass gainer shakes got to go away

Yeah i heard from an old timer in the gym to stop drinking that and get real food instead, I know if I said I have no time it will be an excuse, so yeah I am lazy and I would like to change that.
So what will be the plan? bulk now or cut ? And no sadly I dont have the macros for the meals

[Chunnnky]

2 days on the treadmill will not be enough I do 40 minutes 5 days ew

I am afraid I will look small If I start cutting now, I am 67Kg I am afraid I will be less than 63 after cutting

[Bio-Active]

Yeah i heard from an old timer in the gym to stop drinking that and get real food instead, I know if I said I have no time it will be an excuse, so yeah I am lazy and I would like to change that.
So what will be the plan? bulk now or cut ? And no sadly I dont have the macros for the meals

If your lazy then do not bother competing. I know that sounds harsh but the guys placing in those comps are not lazy. You need to cut

[Bio-Active]

I am afraid I will look small If I start cutting now, I am 67Kg I am afraid I will be less than 63 after cutting

I used to say that too. At my first show I was below 120 lbs and everyone thought I looked closer to 175

[Chunnnky]

I used to say that too. At my first show I was below 120 lbs and everyone thought I looked closer to 175

What do you recommend my diet should be when cutting?
And I agree with what you said, I am trying to fix it right now.
I will start doing 40 mins 5 days on the tread mill now, I am wondering if its low intensity or high?

[Bio-Active]

Keep your heart rate in the fat burning zone the whole time

[Chunnnky]

what should my diet be? I should probably take lots of bcaa to prevent muscle lost right

[Khazima]

IMO don't waste your gains by cutting down to a ridiculously low bf%, which at your (our) age can also be detrimental to growth particularly of the organs and testicles. Keep making gains for a while and think about competing when you have a bigger base and realize the full consequences of getting into contest shape.

[Chunnnky]

IMO don't waste your gains by cutting down to a ridiculously low bf%, which at your (our) age can also be detrimental to growth particularly of the organs and testicles. Keep making gains for a while and think about competing when you have a bigger base and realize the full consequences of getting into contest shape.

the problem is i need to cut for the competition. I am not standing on stage like a pile of lard

[Bio-Active]

IMO don't waste your gains by cutting down to a ridiculously low bf%, which at your (our) age can also be detrimental to growth particularly of the organs and testicles. Keep making gains for a while and think about competing when you have a bigger base and realize the full consequences of getting into contest shape.

he is getting ready for a show. You don't bulk before a show you have to cut weight not to 3-4 % but he will need to cut to 7-8 % to do physic

[Chunnnky]

does anyone know what will be my diet when cutting with clen ? I heard you have to have high carbs and protein?

[Bio-Active]

does anyone know what will be my diet when cutting with clen? I heard you have to have high carbs and protein?

you need to figure out what it takes to maintain before anyone can answer that question. Clen will only work once everything else is in place

[Chunnnky]

you need to figure out what it takes to maintain before anyone can answer that question. Clen will only work once everything else is in place

What information do I need to know that?
I know my maintenance is 2700-2800 cals

[Bio-Active]

What information do I need to know that? I know my maintenance is 2700-2800 cals

how do you know that when you don't know the macros of each of your meals? I am not trying to beat you up her but just saying?

[Chunnnky]

how do you know that when you don't know the macros of each of your meals? I am not trying to beat you up her but just saying?

So what should i start with?
It must be 2700-2800 cals because I stayed on a diet someone written for me 8 months ago
Which consisted of 688g Carbs, 306Fats, 688grams protein.

Meal 1 - 552 cals
Meal 2 - 535 cals
Meal 3 - 516 Cals
Meal 4 - 570 Cals
Meal 5 - 577 Cals

I basically added in protein shakes and a few more snacks here and there when I bulk because my weigh stop gaining for about 4 months with that diet

[Bio-Active]

Some guys here would ask you to figure your tdee. I don't do that. Once you figure what it takes to make your body run and maintain then it's just math. I would reduce your daily caloric intake by 500 calories Ed. See were your at in a couple weeks. As long as you are loosing 1-2 lbs EW you are moving in the right direction. Make sure you are eating greens several times Ed and don't count those calories either. Use them to give you the feeling of being full. They are negative calories and will help you loose weight as well