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    Personal Experience/OPINIONS on FOODS and SUPPS the body needs unnaturally more of

    I've read protein synthesis increases on cycle. this is un natural. what else does the body need quite a bit more of when steroids begin transforming the way a body works?

    there are different goals; size / cutting and all the 'nitnoids' of each. i'm simply referring to health and the optimal intake of important food groups and non food groups things/supps and others

    how about the drugs that curb the side effects? do they consume/deplete more of some things?

    i'm really just looking for opinions based on exp, but science is good too.

    -sorry if this sounds nerdy, but i'm just curious about the topic.

    i'm not interested in becoming a monster, or sculpture carved out of stone. I'm interested in making Steroids as comfortable and safe as i can for myself. your probably already bored. i'm bored too and because I've dropped a huge habit, i'm now filling the gap. this is a reward too. that old habit is calling me though...

    anybody have a very bad video game addiction?

    protein

    fat/cholesterol

    calcium

    carbs

    anything else? even insignificant things. who has suffered and injury, or succumbed to illness due to a lack of proper nutrition?

    are magnesium, vitamin A, and D3 on the list too?

    I know ZMA has been totted as a recovery stack ZMA (Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate, Magnesium Aspartate and Vitamin B6

    interesting stuff but too complicated for me, yet i still wonder. i'm adamant about keeping things simple.

    ultimately, without all the backinfo above, what i'm saying is
    "what fuels the recovery that steroids provide and what powers the re-fuelers?"
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    The number one thing is more water.
    More protein and more calories in general are also important since your metabolism will be increased.

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    is there any way to stop yourself from pissing all day? like more electrolytes in the diet/ salt, potassium, magnesium, and zinc. i hate drinking tons of H2O, and somewhat a pain in the ass to carry around a jug.

    at one point i took a ruler and put 16 points on a gal of h2o. it helped me consume a specific amount every hr. .... wasn't important that i finished a gal a day, but at least most of it and then on to the next. that's like 35 bucks a month.

    does anyone drink a lot of tap water?

    i like having a beer almost once a day. i heard it weakens protein synth. that's not a terribly big deal to someone is it? one beer. i'm not competing. what's a beer every other night? i know it's not healthy, but it calms and i nearly never drink more than one. sometimes i can't finish even 1.
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    well... what are you trying to figure out? There was quite a lot of questions thrown throughout.

    On the subject of alcohol's relationship to protein biosynthesis.... I'll try to expand on the topic a little bit. It's far from simple though.

    It is true that alcohol (ethanol) can reduce the efficiency of protein biosynthesis, but I wouldn't consider it's interactions to be direct. You'd have to take into consideration how much ethanol is consumed along with one's own ability to maintain some source of nutrition. The exact terminology for protein degradation is proteolysis, and without a viable catalyst to accelerate the hydrolysis of it's peptide bonds in reality it takes an absurd amount of time to reach their most rudimentary form. (monomers/polymers/oligomers) This action of protein catabolism could be substantiated from a multitude of things such as it's down regulatory actions on adipocyte's secretion of the adipocytokins, adiponectin. EDIT: Forgot about leptin, too. They have a very interwoven relationship.

    Adiponectin is a regulator of 5' adenosine monophosphate-activated protein kinase. (AMPK) Focusing on schematics, it's a ubiquitous heterotrimeric protein that actively monitors metabolic factorial ratios involving adenosine triphosphate (ATP): adenosine diphosphate (ADP) and creatine: phosphocreatine. It's goal is to inhibit highly demanding cellular pathways associated dephosphorylation to preserve ATP e.g regulator in contraction-stimulated glucose transport within skeletal muscle tissue. If you know of the glucose transport then you may be familiar with the Citric Acid Cycle and it's associated coenzymes, Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide. (NAD+ is oxidized: NADH is reduced. Both cooperatively participate in redox reactions that have the similar functionality to the reversibility of protein biosynthesis a.k.a post-translational modifications.)

    That's only a section of it's activity. You did say science.... In reality I wouldn't fret over a couple beers. Life is too short!! I have a beer every now and then as well, but I don't go European soccer hooligan mode every night of the week. I keep that on a "once in a blue moon" kind of moderation.
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