Am I eating too much protein?

[brazilian10]

Hello everyone! Haven't been on here in a while!

Anyways I've been clean bulking for the past two months and been consuming
270g of protein per day. Is that excessive? Considering my current stats: 5'10 159 lbs.
During this clean bulk I'm consuming a net total of 2700 cals with a [p/c/f] 40%/30%/30%

**I tried bulking on 1g per body weight but for some reason my body isn't able to build muscle as effectively..
Idk if it's all in my head or what cause I've met a few guys who were the same size and told me that 180g of protein is more than enough for them . They think I'm crazy when I tell them I eat 270g/day!!
Another reason why I keep my protein intake high is bc I'm carb sensitive (when my carbs are too high I tend to gain a sh*t load of body fat.)
All in all, Do some people need more protein than others?

Thanks in advance guys.

[73rr]

I like to say 1.5g of protien Per lbs. So u might be a little high but if it's working y mess with it

[brazilian10]

I like to say 1.5g of protien Per lbs. So u might be a little high but if it's working y mess with it

I was thinking maybe lowering it to 240g and upping my fats...
what do you guys think of the macro split I'm currently running? [p/c/f] 40%/30%/30%
Is it optimal during a clean bulk?
sometimes I feel that I shouldn't be a p*ssy and up my carb intake...
Considering that I used to be one of those guys who were anti-carb before realizing the vital role it has in building muscle..

[Splifton]

Well you have to take into consideration that whatever you consume that your body can't immediately utilize will either be excreted with your bowel movement or undergo biochemical conversions. Skipping some steps... it winds up being a free fatty acid from lipogenesis and subsequently undegoes triglyceride esterification and it's resting state is fat. If you aren't creating the phsysiological demand for that much energy then anything unused will partly contribute to glucogenesis and get fed into our Citric Acid Cycle and what's left will become fat like I mentioned earlier. It'll be put off into storage in our adipocytes until the potential threshold to initiate lipolysis begins.

You have to understand your body's homeostatic nature with energy regulation. It'll always opt for the most efficient source first which is either utilizing intramuscular energy storages (glycogen) and undergoing glycogenolysis or taking the excess glucose molecules available and converting them into viable energy via glycogenesis. A portion of glucose is also powering cellular respiration as a reactant for the pyruvate oxidation and eventual ADP>ATP from oxidative phosphorylation.

[73rr]

^^^I want to say that is a really good answer.

[somewhatjacked]

Well you have to take into consideration that whatever you consume that your body can't immediately utilize will either be excreted with your bowel movement or undergo biochemical conversions. Skipping some steps... it winds up being a free fatty acid from lipogenesis and subsequently undegoes triglyceride esterification and it's resting state is fat. If you aren't creating the phsysiological demand for that much energy then anything unused will partly contribute to glucogenesis and get fed into our Citric Acid Cycle and what's left will become fat like I mentioned earlier. It'll be put off into storage in our adipocytes until the potential threshold to initiate lipolysis begins.

You have to understand your body's homeostatic nature with energy regulation. It'll always opt for the most efficient source first which is either utilizing intramuscular energy storages (glycogen) and undergoing glycogenolysis or taking the excess glucose molecules available and converting them into viable energy via glycogenesis. A portion of glucose is also powering cellular respiration as a reactant for the pyruvate oxidation and eventual ADP>ATP from oxidative phosphorylation.

Can someone translate this? It sounds very intelligent but I didn't understand this - lol

[Splifton]

Alright, when you exceed your macronutrients a few things can happen depending upon what macro was in abundance. With carbohydrates they can be broken down into glucose. Glucose can be converted into glycogen for the intramuscular energy stores. Glucose can also be used as a reactant for cellular respiration which is how our body creates a form of cellular "currency" per say. In cellular respiration the usual substrate is pyruvate. Now a reactant is a substance that is present prior to the chemical reaction and the substrate is the substance that is being modified in the reaction. The chemical reaction occurs and it's called oxidative phosphorylation and it takes place in the mitochondria compartment. The sole job of this oxidation is to successfully cleave a phosphate group to ADP and thus return it to it's former self which is ATP. So these little reactions are solely involved with topping off immediate energy reserves and help contribute to energy homeostasis. When we are in equilibrium with our energy stores then our body sees no reason to alter any metabolic activities to anticipate and prevent famine.

So any macronutrient can actively contribute to this cellular pathway, but the carbohydrate requires the least amount of conversions and thus is the ideal choice if present in adequate amounts. Now with protein our body can utilize it for amino acids by stripping away it's nitrogenous base and undergoing proteolysis. Once the protein is broken down we have specific amino acids that are relevant to the specific type of protein. These amino acids cannot be stored and are either utilized for immediate biological requirements or they venture on and become excreted while some can actively convert into glucose and contribute to more cellular metabolic reactions. Now in the instance that your body is in a state of energy fulfillment with glycogen stores and intracellular energy requirements, it can take this glucose molecule and feed it to the TCA cycle. Eventually down the line we end up with Acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA can undego lipogenesis and become a free fatty acid. Eventually our body wants to store away our fatty acids and it begins triglyceride esterification to create a chemical bond and allows the macromolecule to be stored within our adipocytes or fat.

Now, fat can just be immediately converted into it's appropriate fatty acid and further esterified to become a triglyceride or it can actively participate in the myraid of other activities that were formally mentioned. Just as a note though proteins can convert into glucose which can convert into fat, but glucose can't turn a protein. Unless you are a plant. Fat can't become a protein either.

A very simplified version and I skipped quite a bit of possible alternatives as well as ketone production.

[brazilian10]

Alright, when you exceed your macronutrients a few things can happen depending upon what macro was in abundance. With carbohydrates they can be broken down into glucose. Glucose can be converted into glycogen for the intramuscular energy stores. Glucose can also be used as a reactant for cellular respiration which is how our body creates a form of cellular "currency" per say. In cellular respiration the usual substrate is pyruvate. Now a reactant is a substance that is present prior to the chemical reaction and the substrate is the substance that is being modified in the reaction. The chemical reaction occurs and it's called oxidative phosphorylation and it takes place in the mitochondria compartment. The sole job of this oxidation is to successfully cleave a phosphate group to ADP and thus return it to it's former self which is ATP. So these little reactions are solely involved with topping off immediate energy reserves and help contribute to energy homeostasis. When we are in equilibrium with our energy stores then our body sees no reason to alter any metabolic activities to anticipate and prevent famine.

So any macronutrient can actively contribute to this cellular pathway, but the carbohydrate requires the least amount of conversions and thus is the ideal choice if present in adequate amounts. Now with protein our body can utilize it for amino acids by stripping away it's nitrogenous base and undergoing proteolysis. Once the protein is broken down we have specific amino acids that are relevant to the specific type of protein. These amino acids cannot be stored and are either utilized for immediate biological requirements or they venture on and become excreted while some can actively convert into glucose and contribute to more cellular metabolic reactions. Now in the instance that your body is in a state of energy fulfillment with glycogen stores and intracellular energy requirements, it can take this glucose molecule and feed it to the TCA cycle. Eventually down the line we end up with Acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA can undego lipogenesis and become a free fatty acid. Eventually our body wants to store away our fatty acids and it begins triglyceride esterification to create a chemical bond and allows the macromolecule to be stored within our adipocytes or fat.

Now, fat can just be immediately converted into it's appropriate fatty acid and further esterified to become a triglyceride or it can actively participate in the myraid of other activities that were formally mentioned. Just as a note though proteins can convert into glucose which can convert into fat, but glucose can't turn a protein. Unless you are a plant. Fat can't become a protein either.

A very simplified version and I skipped quite a bit of possible alternatives as well as ketone production.

So what you're saying is that an excess of protein is better than an excess in carbs or fat?

[73rr]

Well, yes and no haha. From my understanding extra protien will convert into fat. But like I have said why change something that is working for u