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    Fiber cancels out carbs... Or does it?

    So people say that the fiber you ingest cancels out the carbs from that particular food source. If I was in keto and in this were true, it theoretically means one could eat 1kg of wheat bran and still be in keto? Wheat bran contains 36g of carbs and fiber per 100g...

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    No..

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    If you want to look at calories, a typical carbohydrate source will net you ~4 carbohydrate cals, pure psyllium husk fiber will net you ~3 carbohydrate cals. No cancelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    If you want to look at calories, a typical carbohydrate source will net you ~4 carbohydrate cals, pure psyllium husk fiber will net you ~3 carbohydrate cals. No cancelling.
    The wheat bran I have in my cupboard has both 36g of carbs & fiber per 100g...

    I don't want to do this, just testing theories

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    The wheat bran I have in my cupboard has both 36g of carbs & fiber per 100g...

    I don't want to do this, just testing theories
    You do not want to do what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    You do not want to do what?
    I don't want to consume a kilo of wheat bran lol

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    Start stretching that ass now.

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    Here's a better explanation: insoluble fiber doesn't count as a source of calories or carbohydrates for humans because we can't digest and absorb it. It all comes out as shit. Now, feed that same fiber to a cow and it counts just like any other carb.

    Soluble fiber is more complicated:
    Why Are There Calories in Soluble Fiber? Explaining Soluble Fiber Calories on the Label
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    According to your link: "Bottom Line: When counting carbs, we can always subtract fiber from the total carbohydrate count on food labels."

    That's exactly what I'm talking about, why is it so hard for everyone to understand what I'm talking about?

    100g of wheat bran = 36 carbs. But there's 36g of fiber so 36 minus 36 = 0 carbs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    According to your link: "Bottom Line: When counting carbs, we can always subtract fiber from the total carbohydrate count on food labels."

    That's exactly what I'm talking about, why is it so hard for everyone to understand what I'm talking about?

    100g of wheat bran = 36 carbs. But there's 36g of fiber so 36 minus 36 = 0 carbs...
    Please show a pic of this Wheat Bran nutrition info please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Please show a pic of this Wheat Bran nutrition info please.
    Here you go: http://i.imgur.com/5lJNSfD.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    According to your link: "Bottom Line: When counting carbs, we can always subtract fiber from the total carbohydrate count on food labels."

    That's exactly what I'm talking about, why is it so hard for everyone to understand what I'm talking about?

    100g of wheat bran = 36 carbs. But there's 36g of fiber so 36 minus 36 = 0 carbs...
    And what we're saying is that fiber doesn't actually "cancel out" carbs, unless you consider erroneously counting something, then subtracting it to be "cancelling".

    And IDK about that wheat bran label. It is confusing, especially since we don't know how much is soluble vs insoluble.

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    Well the way I've always done it is basically just subtracting the dietary fiber from the gross carbs to get net carbs.

    For example, if something has 30g of carbs but has 15g of fiber, that leaves us with 15g net carbs...?

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    Something is funky about this nutrition label

    The numbers make no sense in bread terms

    It has a better carb/cal ratio than straight oats

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    This post is about net carbs vs carbs. If you are tracking macros I think they need to be counted as carbs. Fiber grams also important. I shoot for 18 g daily for my status. Some of my gf use net carbs as a weight loss target. Eat no more then 30 net carbs per day! The only way to do this is by eating a ton of greens and veggies and your bran which is high in fiber.

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