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    mfbanksy is offline New Member
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    Why can't I put on size?

    So here I am, on cycle yet again and about 3 weeks in of a 12 weeks cycle. Usually by now id see massive improvements, and from my diet alone I should be putting on size. Im stacking 2.6ml test e/week with 2.6ml tren e/week and 1ml deca /week.

    My diet consists of:
    7am
    8 egg whites with 3 yolks
    protein and oat shake (find it easier to eat oats this way)
    1 litre water

    10am
    2 rice cakes
    95g can of tuna
    quarter cup of oats with greek yoghurt

    1pm
    chicken breast
    sweet potato (usually about one whole potato)
    and half a broccoli

    4pm pre workout meal
    1 rice cake
    1 cup of brown rice

    7pm post workout meal
    chicken breast
    one whole sweet potato
    half a broccoli

    Before bed
    4 egg whites
    glass of milk or protein shake

    Now in the past Ive never had any issues putting on size with a big diet, but now that Im on cycle it seems weird to me that I have actually lost 2kg's since starting (and i dont do cardio)
    So any idea of what the problem could be? Im always in the gym from 1.5-2 hours. And hit every muscle to exhaustion.

    thanks in advance guys

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    What's your stats?
    U still might not be eating enough.

    You trust your source? Gear might be bunk.

    Hard to believe it's over training but u are in the gym for 2 hours. (Recently dought that it's over training)

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    Ml doesn't tell us anything. What is the concentration of the gear you are using in mg/ml?

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    My bad I was in a bit of a rush.
    I weight 85kg currently. About 5"6 in height.
    Brand of gear is arl. Tren is 200mg/ml, test e is 250mg/ml and deca is 200mg/ml

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    In my opinion 2 hours in the gym is overkill, i am never there any longer then 45 to 60 minutes. Train with a purpose, get in and get out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfbanksy
    My bad I was in a bit of a rush. I weight 85kg currently. About 5"6 in height. Brand of gear is arl. Tren is 200mg/ml, test e is 250mg/ml and deca is 200mg/ml
    2.6 X 200mg = 560mg tren
    2.6 x 250mg = 650mg test
    1.0 x 200mg = 200mg Deca

    Cycle seems ok. Without knowing previous cycles or age i those doses seem reasonable.

    As said 2 hours is overkill. If you can't do it in 60mins, you need to re-evaluate your training.

    Your problem: Diet. If you were eating enough you'd have gained weight. It's simple math. Post up the macros and calories for a typical day.

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    My issue is I lift really heavy with excellent form and muscle focus. And i try fit as much as possible into my sessions. But I find if I don't train for at least 1.5 hours the muscle isn't sore the next day.

    I haven't done a proper macro count on my food, that diet was made for me by a nutritionist, but due to being on cycle I thought I'd come here to ask questions.

    The deca is also purely there for injury recovery just so you're aware.

    Would the addition of rice be a good idea? I'm finding at the moment I'm putting on some fat. So this is why I don't understand why muscle gain isn't working

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfbanksy
    My issue is I lift really heavy with excellent form and muscle focus. And i try fit as much as possible into my sessions. But I find if I don't train for at least 1.5 hours the muscle isn't sore the next day. I haven't done a proper macro count on my food, that diet was made for me by a nutritionist, but due to being on cycle I thought I'd come here to ask questions. The deca is also purely there for injury recovery just so you're aware. Would the addition of rice be a good idea? I'm finding at the moment I'm putting on some fat. So this is why I don't understand why muscle gain isn't working
    You don't have to be sore to have had a solid workout.

    Yeah I got the inclusion of the Deca !

    Don't add rice without us first seeing what you actually eat. However, if you're gaining far you're in a calorie surplus, so there's enough calories there to build muscle. The problem won't be gear, it will be girt or training.

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    anyone with similar weight, height and age to me able to give me an insight into their calorie and protein intake?

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    Break down your diet more Do you weigh your food?

    You should post in the diet section. You are not eating anywhere near as much as you think I can tell you that much.

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    I'm finding I'm already putting on fat. I don't want to eat even more and risk putting on more

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