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    why part fats with carbs

    Just curious I have had two different coaches and they will have me pair some fats to carbs.
    For example: I was bulking and my coach wanted me to eat 2 cups of white and eat a tablespoon of coconut oil with my 2 of my meals. Or my one coach wanted me to eat a banana and 2 tbl before training.
    What does the fats do to the simple carbs. Does help to not spike ur insulin from the simple carbs?

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    The addition of fats, fiber and vinegar to a meal slows down the rate of digestion and absorption.

    Fats do this by slowing down the rate that stomach contents move into the small intestine.

    Thus glucose is absorbed at a slower rate resulting in a blunted insulin spike.

    Refined carbs are stripped of fats and fiber and are notorious for spiking insulin due to their fast digestion times.

    This is why I don't put too much faith in the glycemic index.

    As soon as you add other macros to a meal the GI number changes.

    The article attached below is a good read on this subject.

    Understanding Digestion: Why You Should Eat Carbohydrates With Fat, Fibre, and Vinegar
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    He's taking Coconut oil / MCT oil
    this does not effect absorption or slows down digesting as they are Medium tri change fats and they by passes the stomach and goes straight to the liver to produce ketones and does not effect digestion at all and gives instant energy
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    The addition of fats, fiber and vinegar to a meal slows down the rate of digestion and absorption.

    Fats do this by slowing down the rate that stomach contents move into the small intestine.

    Thus glucose is absorbed at a slower rate resulting in a blunted insulin spike.

    Refined carbs are stripped of fats and fiber and are notorious for spiking insulin due to their fast digestion times.

    This is why I don't put too much faith in the glycemic index.

    As soon as you add other macros to a meal the GI number changes.

    The article attached below is a good read on this subject.

    Understanding Digestion: Why You Should Eat Carbohydrates With Fat, Fibre, and Vinegar
    Okay so let me ask u this then in my current "cutting" diet has

    3 meals of 8 Oz of grilled chicken and 1 cup of white rice

    When cutting u don't want the insulin spike right?
    Should I switch those 3 cups of white rice out for a complex carb such as brown rice and if so should I lessen my portions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
    Okay so let me ask u this then in my current "cutting" diet has

    3 meals of 8 Oz of grilled chicken and 1 cup of white rice

    When cutting u don't want the insulin spike right?
    Should I switch those 3 cups of white rice out for a complex carb such as brown rice and if so should I lessen my portions?
    You're giving the notion of an insulin spike way too much credit.

    There is virtually no difference between white or brown rice especially when you are adding other macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post

    You're giving the notion of an insulin spike way too much credit.

    There is virtually no difference between white or brown rice especially when you are adding other macros.
    So would u say I should do the following to help with my cut
    8oz grilled chicken
    1 cup of brown or white rice
    1tbl of vinegar (on top of my rice)
    1 teaspoon of coconut oil (on top of my rice)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
    So would u say I should do the following to help with my cut
    8oz grilled chicken
    1 cup of brown or white rice
    1tbl of vinegar (on top of my rice)
    1 teaspoon of coconut oil (on top of my rice)
    That looks good but personally I'd swap the coconut oil for evoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post

    That looks good but personally I'd swap the coconut oil for evoo.
    Thanks boss. Really appreciate the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
    Thanks boss. Really appreciate the help.
    Anytime buddy.

    Keep us updated on your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
    Okay so let me ask u this then in my current "cutting" diet has

    3 meals of 8 Oz of grilled chicken and 1 cup of white rice

    When cutting u don't want the insulin spike right?
    Should I switch those 3 cups of white rice out for a complex carb such as brown rice and if so should I lessen my portions?
    eating white rice with chicken and veggies will slow down the insulin spice , white or brown rice with a meal wont be much different unless you are eating the rice with nothing else

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