Ok, so I have been "dieting" going by feel, and over the last year; I have gained 20lbs (222lb now) and have gotten stronger; look leaner than I was when I did an IIFYM diet at 200lbs, counting calories with MYP, and following a carb-cycling protocol. I am not counting calories and I am eating more whole foods than I was. We all know the TEF of different foods, but also, they have different hormonal effects, so a calorie is a calorie, but its not; because how the body RESPONDS to those calories is different. We all know none of us can build a solid muscular body eating 3000 calories of jolly ranchers vs 3000 calories of steak.
I have been doing research and experimenting with different diets which show me that calories in vs calories out, is NOT the final picture when it comes to PERMENANT fat loss. Yes, it does work temporarily, but what ALWAYS happens? You gain it ALL back (sometimes more) because of your body's set point and the fact it WANTS to gain what it lost back. Also calorie deficit causes your metabolism to slow down and bla bla bla you know the story.
When I experimented with Stan Efferding's vertical diet, I actually saw my body beome more efficient, being able to consume MORE steak and rice and remain where I was. Basically his diet is "training" your metabolism to be more efficient. There are researchers and doctors our there that don't believe the Calorie Theory is correct; what I am learning from these anti-calorie proponents (not that they believe calories don't matter, but is not the main problem) is that our metabolisms are NOT running efficiently and are damaged due to eating processed crap and fake foods. So, eating whole foods alone can dramatically change your body, this should be obvious to us.
The research I have been doing has to do with a different theory about hormone and insulin manipulation for permanent fat loss that is sustainable. According to what I am reading, people are becoming insulin resistant because of the constant exposure to carbs, high blood sugar; storing more fat than they should be. The more insulin floating in your body, the more it becomes used to it and resistant to it. The idea is to lower insulin so we can tap into our fat stores and burn off the access weight. Type II diabetics have too much insulin, and yet they are proscribed insulin to take care of the issues, but it always makes things worse. There have been doctors like Dr. Jason Fung who has been fasting his patients, making their insulin go down after, allowing their body to burn off excess sugar and eventually getting them off their medication; curing them of their diabetes. Essentially, he lowers the carbs or makes them fast (both types of dieting I have tried) so the blood sugar can be used and insulin sensitivity is restored. And then there is proponents of Keto: There have been various people doing 5k (keto) challenges, of 5000+ calories of high fat and protein, gaining virtually nothing and sliming down. We all hear these stories. However, for a bodybuilder, keto will cause loss of muscle size via loss of glycogen and water, which is why we don't see many of them on zero carbs all the time or without refeeds.
Now, this is a bodybuilding forum and most of the studies I have read had to do with normal people, obese people or diabetics, none of which were on juice and peptides. Also TRUE keto is way higher fat and lower protein than the bro-science keto most bodybuilders do, and studies have shown high protein is what keeps muscle mass, not ketones. I also know carbs are a bodybuilders best friend; yet even bodybuilders go through this gain and lose cycle all year round. Basically, even the on and off season is not permanent and sustainable fat loss, but, when one gains more tissue, the next time they cut, they will be bigger...so I'm logically concluding:
The off season bodybuilder, if he has ENOUGH muscle on him, will be like 10% bodyfat. Abs are visible, he is lean, but he is not shredded. My goal is just that, 10%, visible abs, and I don't care to be shredded. In fact, being shredded isn't even sustainable for a bodybuilder or most people unless they're lucky to have great genetics and can somehow maintain 7% all year round. Even fitness models are usually not as lean until they diet down for a photoshoot. This to me is not permenant fat loss and is not a sustainable lifestyle. I want to just hit a new setpoint and stay there.
So my thoughts are: Ok, I'm NOT gonna go into a calorie deficit again (at least purposely), instead, I'm going to manipulate my insulin with low carbs, eat more fat and high protein whole foods, and create a demand by increasing my work output (more gym sessions each body part 2x a week) and add more tissue so my body "costs more" to maintain.
To summarize, if my goal is to just be 10% one day (over time, I'm probably 12-15% now similar to my avatar but bigger), do you agree with my strategy here? Add more tissue, body will recomp itself? People say only noobs can recomp but I basically just did over the last year by adding more size. This is essentially what I feel by intuition I need to do. Again, I don't' care if I am shredded, I want to live my life and enjoy it, I don't want to be counting calories; nor will I be needing to get ripped for shows or whatever. I workout and eat by 'feel' and I have been getting results. Essentially what I mean by that is I constantly cycle though different workout plans, but diets as well. Again, I'm going off the fact when I see an off-season bodybuilder, if he has "lean bulked" he looks great, and that's fine with me. My main goal is a sustainable, permenant change where I can enjoy food, my life and not keep yo-yoing like; especially when I am not a competitor or need to.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
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. OP your first post makes a lot of sense and similar to my approach over last couple years. For me though I am a real calorie macro counter, I track everything to help keep me inline and honest. One thing I will say though holding a steady true 10% body fat is not going to be easy let alone possible for most especially without tracking food intake. Yes there are outliers but generally this would be very challenging for most.
