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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    So did I that's why I asked if they were good to go. so that means if some starches are resistant to digestion that means they're not broken down and can be used more efficiently as fuel for the muscles because they're still starches and not digested and not starches?
    When the starches cool they reform, because of how the starch molecules fold back up. The body’s enzymes have a hard time breaking up and getting to the sugar part of the molecule that the body can use.

    Starches are just strings of sugars attached together and when cold, they ball up like a armadillo. When you heat the starch, they unball and would look like a string of pearls. The body can get to the sugar bonds better because they aren’t protected like the armAdillo analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Yep, you found where I was going with that...lol
    So hot potatoes are... Not resistant?
    But I thought resistant was good?

    Are you all collectively trying to fuck with me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    When the starches cool they reform, because of how the starch molecules fold back up. The body’s enzymes have a hard time breaking up and getting to the sugar part of the molecule that the body can use.

    Starches are just strings of sugars attached together and when cold, they ball up like a armadillo. When you heat the starch, they unball and would look like a string of pearls. The body can get to the sugar bonds better because they aren’t protected like the armAdillo analogy.
    These potatoes are hot when you eat them (not resistant) but cool in your tummy... Then they are armadillos.
    Little anabolic time realesed armadillos...

    So you get an initial blast of carbs followed by a time released armadillo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    So hot potatoes are... Not resistant?
    But I thought resistant was good?

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    Cooked (then refrigerated) cold potatoes good for limiting carbs as they are resistant to “complete,” digestion. Which lowers the total calories and adds bulk to the meal so you don’t over eat. Which would be good in a cutting diet.

    Cooked potatoes (or rewarmed) will give you more usable carbs total and will be faster acting in your blood stream so better for bulking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    So hot potatoes are... Not resistant?
    But I thought resistant was good?

    Are you all collectively trying to fuck with me?
    Its working
    mash up a hot potato and a cold potato. eat them both and you'll be sure to cover all basis'
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    mash up a hot potato and a cold potato. eat them both and you'll be sure to cover all basis'
    Haha, exactly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    These potatoes are hot when you eat them (not resistant) but cool in your tummy... Then they are armadillos.
    Little anabolic time realesed armadillos...

    So you get an initial blast of carbs followed by a time released armadillo?
    Where can one find armadillo meat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    These potatoes are hot when you eat them (not resistant) but cool in your tummy... Then they are armadillos.
    Little anabolic time realesed armadillos...

    So you get an initial blast of carbs followed by a time released armadillo?

    Yes, just think hot anabolic armadillos ready to eat potatoes.

    And Cold potatoes to limit the blood sugar spike and chance of over eating when strictly dieting. Armadillo fat defense...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Cooked (then refrigerated) cold potatoes good for limiting carbs as they are resistant to “complete,” digestion. Which lowers the total calories and adds bulk to the meal so you don’t over eat. Which would be good in a cutting diet.

    Cooked potatoes (or rewarmed) will give you more usable carbs total and will be faster acting in your blood stream so better for bulking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Where can one find armadillo meat?
    I see them dead on the side of the road almost daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Where can one find armadillo meat?
    SOMO.
    I shot over 100 in 3 months.

    You gotta see what a cxp1 does to a dillo

    The little shit heads migrated to the ozarks and found heaven. They wipe out acres of field corners digging for grubs.

    I would like a final tally of how many I killed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Little anabolic time realesed armadillos...
    Now that’s a trip!

    In all seriousness though these carbs like potatoes, rice, etc are all complex carbs. So technically if I’m understanding correctly for those not using slin there should be a simple sugar carb(sugar but not fruitcose) to accompany the other carbs in the post workout meal to allow the body to quickly and efficiently replace glycogen lost from training?

    Also I have read cold rice is much like cold potatoes with regards to changes in digestion. Then there is the whole change in Glycemic index values with regards to how cooked or overcooked the grains may be.
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    Potatoes are like... Crayons.
    If you stick them in a space heater vent they melt and are used up really fast.

    But... If your crayon is cold on the construction paper it takes a hundred years to use it up.

    ^^simple^^

    Jello, you can't drink it if its cold.
    If its hot you use it up fast because you can slurp it.

    8-l

    You guys try teaching me shit the hard way and I forget where my gd keys are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    SOMO.
    I shot over 100 in 3 months.

    You gotta see what a cxp1 does to a dillo

    The little shit heads migrated to the ozarks and found heaven. They wipe out acres of field corners digging for grubs.

    I would like a final tally of how many I killed
    9mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    9mm?
    .223 and .243

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    .223 and .243
    Cxp1. I googled cpx1. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Cxp1. I googled cpx1. Lol
    Attachment 174531
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    Either one for snapping turtles and armadillos.

    .243 55gr BST ANNHILATED snapping turtles

    Cxp1 would detonate and amadillo.

    Two nusiance animals we were expected to shoot as kids.

    **btw, neither this ammo nor armadillos were around until I was in my teens.

    Attachment 174533

    Not a bad velocity for an off the shelf .243 round.
    When it met turtle shell....
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    Personally, I don't think it really matters that much. From my experience, daily macros seem to be the only thing that matters..

    I've grown to try to keep things simple instead of splitting hairs.

    The less time I spend worrying about stuff, the better!
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    I actually started eating a regular potato pre workout after I saw a Seth feroce video and he was eating patoato pre workout. I just microwave the potato for 3 mins and it comes out like a baked potato. It gives me amazing energy for my workouts

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    for me , 2 pop tarts post workout . thats 80g of carbs and fast and convenient and more then covers my insulin . as well as 40g of whey.
    As someone who doesn't use insulin , isn't a non-sugary carb better? I thought the insulin spike kills your body's natural production of growth hormone , which I believed is at its highest post workout? Or is that bullshit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasinGains View Post
    As someone who doesn't use insulin, isn't a non-sugary carb better? I thought the insulin spike kills your body's natural production of growth hormone, which I believed is at its highest post workout? Or is that bullshit lol
    pretty much any food intra workout or post workout is going to shut down natty production of growth hormone . so don't matter if its pop tarts or oatmeal. if you want the biggest spike of natty GH you'll need to be fasted during your workout and after your workout. any Food will limit the natty gh pulse, all together.

    but keep in mind if your fasted after your workout trying to get a natty GH pulse , you'll also get your biggest spike of CORTISOL post workout by doing this as well (cortisol is a catabolic hormone that breaks down muscle tissue). thats not exactly ideal for building muscle.
    your way better off consuming carbs and getting an insulin spike during this time (which completely blunts cortisol all together). thats way way more anabolic and anti catabolic then any small natty release of GH you would ever get.

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