lol...i guess this is what i get for stretching out the gaps in between cycles. most people here use straight out the human stuff out of the regular pharmacies, and dont need to use high amounts. 500mg of testoprim compared to maybe 750 of vet stuff. Deca i know is also available, have not checked for eq though. The reason some, like me, use the other stuff is because of price. but i always thought vet gear was stronger than human grade. not the case with testoprim....that thing is strong.