Alpha Pahrma Boldenone Undecylenate - labmax test results

[mietek]

There are so many faked AP so I was sure that I have another bunk product, I was really surprised that I found the real deal.

It is nice yellow glow under UV light, I can see that it is real good quality bold. I have not seen so good looking bold in long time.

I have just got one box to test looks like I will be buying more for the cycle.

[marcus300]

Check the serial number on the web site, that will tell you if its legit or not.

[mietek]

Check the serial number on the web site, that will tell you if its legit or not.

the funny thing is that the serial checks and the product is still bunk. I have seen a lot of this. Alpha Pharma is UG so how can you trust any serial numbers ?

[nuttyproffsser]

There are so many faked AP so I was sure that I have another bunk product, I was really surprised that I found the real deal.

It is nice yellow glow under UV light, I can see that it is real good quality bold. I have not seen so good looking bold in long time.

I have just got one box to test looks like I will be buying more for the cycle.

dont get to many boxes in case they send u crap...or they send u quality and it gets confiscated. i see your location is Germany isnt that legal their?

[mietek]

I never buy too many, I do not want to feed scammers. I test everything.

Nothing is legal, if you have small amount for personal use they let you go.

This is Europe they do not send you do prison for having one needle.

[clarky.]

Maybe you should start a thread with all the compounds you have tested so far and post your findings. And update as you test more it could help a lot of people mietek.
And you could help people with Q on the labmax test ? just a though.

[marcus300]

the funny thing is that the serial checks and the product is still bunk. I have seen a lot of this. Alpha Pharma is UG so how can you trust any serial numbers ?

Well I have had passed through my hands thousands of amps of AP and everyone whats been confirmed on the wed site has been 100%, it is a UGL in the sense of the word but its classed as a pharma in India for what ever that's worth and complies with cGMP approved facilities by the FDA but there are a lot of fake AP but everyone ive seen didn't get through their anti- counterfeiting verification checks

[mietek]

Well I have had passed through my hands thousands of amps of AP and everyone whats been confirmed on the wed site has been 100%, it is a UGL in the sense of the word but its classed as a pharma in India for what ever that's worth and complies with cGMP approved facilities by the FDA but there are a lot of fake AP but everyone ive seen didn't get through their anti- counterfeiting verification checks

as far as I know Alpha Pharma is underground lab, it is not state licenced. So I would take everything with cautious, I have AP before like test, deca and it was good.
I simply do not trust any lab, they could be scammed by powder supplier and make a lot of bunk gear.

You cannot tell that UG lab is approved by FDA.

It is lottery all the time. I am not injecting something because code checks and wait a few weeks for results.

[marcus300]

Well I have had passed through my hands thousands of amps of AP and everyone whats been confirmed on the wed site has been 100%, it is a UGL in the sense of the word but its classed as a pharma in India for what ever that's worth and complies with cGMP approved facilities by the FDA but there are a lot of fake AP but everyone ive seen didn't get through their anti- counterfeiting verification checks

It has a licence in India take that what ever it means to you but ive had thousands of amps and the ones what check out have been 100% but there are many fakes around what don't passed the code test. If your really that concern just buy pharm grade from your own country and stop fuking around.

[mietek]

If your really that concern just buy pharm grade from your own country and stop fuking around.

if you get me prescription then I can buy. This is the only way you get. You do not get pharma grade from some web site, pharmaceutical companies do not sell to black market. What you get is counterfeit.

[nuttyproffsser]

U are aware that Boldenone Undecylenate is a test derivative use by veterinary injectable steroid boldenone undecylenate... i wounder if alpha pharma brand is even human grade....is consider pharma grade out side the US...but who knows sense their all consider fakes.

[maddad]

Must be some kind of special challenges going on here. I won't even try to get pharm, it would almost certainly be a fake. And a labmax won't tell you concentration or purity.

Some of these compounds are not approved for use in humans so the only tren youre going to find will be ugl. I'd rather find a good source for a good ugl and leave it at that.

[maddad]

The codes only check once. If they get run more than once you get an error message.

That's great it labmaxed. I have one too! Could be faked alpha. Do you think alpha is underdosed?

[nuttyproffsser]

The codes only check once. If they get run more than once you get an error message.

That's great it labmaxed. I have one too! Could be faked alpha. Do you think alpha is underdosed?

im on a cycle of alpha pharma test cyp and yes is under dosed...dont mean all their products are.....is hit or miss with UGL.

[michael30]

if you get me prescription then I can buy. This is the only way you get. You do not get pharma grade from some web site, pharmaceutical companies do not sell to black market. What you get is counterfeit.

You are wrong. Research alpha pharma. Alpha pharma has a license in mumbia india to export medication. They have there products made by a company with a legal license to manufacture pharmaceuticals. The company is called Navdeep Bioceuticals. The reason there products show up on the black market is because the laws in india are more relaxed. (*note alpha pharma is not approved in the u.s. but it is made by a legally licensed company)

[michael30]

The codes only check once. If they get run more than once you get an error message.

That's great it labmaxed. I have one too! Could be faked alpha. Do you think alpha is underdosed?

Im using there test e for trt and have gotten my blood work done once while on it. My bloodwork came back good. I personally really like ap. But i know my source is good. Which makes a difference.

[mietek]

Im using there test e for trt and have gotten my blood work done once while on it. My bloodwork came back good. I personally really like ap. But i know my source is good. Which makes a difference.

I had Alpha before too and it was good. But it does not change the fact there is something going on. I know guys who had it, the code checked and zero gains, only corn oil inside.

[nuttyproffsser]

Im using there test e for trt and have gotten my blood work done once while on it. My bloodwork came back good. I personally really like ap. But i know my source is good. Which makes a difference.

i agree the source is the key.

[jeep187]

Does anyone on here have first hand experience with Alpha pharma gear that checked out but was bunk? I mean you personally. Not your friend or neighbors brother or any other second hand info.

[roids1]

How can the code check and its still bunk gear?I have ap test cyp and eq.All the codes are ok.How can I be sure?

[mietek]

How can the code check and its still bunk gear?I have ap test cyp and eq.All the codes are ok.How can I be sure?

This is UGL you cannot trust any codes. I was very satisfied with Alpha but a lot of people are getting fakes.

It is not FDA certified lab, you can have anything in the vials.

I do not trust anybody, I have even tested gear bought on prescription in pharmacy just to make sure and also for fun to see how looks good gear.

[roids1]

Mine are amps,not vials.

[dvd]

One good way of testing boldenone is to test your hematocrit scores before taking it and then 1-2 weeks later. If you get headaches in the first 2 weeks that go away with taking iron pills thats also a good sign. Had to stop using Kalpa boldenone from the spiked hematocrit score but boldenone didn't do anything else for me other than an increase in hunger. Only other things were oily skin and an increase in acne. Over all not a useful product even if it's legit.

[michael30]

This is UGL you cannot trust any codes. I was very satisfied with Alpha but a lot of people are getting fakes.

It is not FDA certified lab, you can have anything in the vials.

I do not trust anybody, I have even tested gear bought on prescription in pharmacy just to make sure and also for fun to see how looks good gear.

Please read my above post alpha pharma is not and under ground lab. (But are not fda approved)They are a legal company with a legal license to export medication. If you read my above post i state the company that makes/made there aas. Google the company. Ap is listed right on there site as someone they produce aas for.

[michael30]

Does anyone on here have first hand experience with Alpha pharma gear that checked out but was bunk? I mean you personally. Not your friend or neighbors brother or any other second hand info.

Lol hey man havent talked to you for afew weeks. Um ive had AP that didnt check out but was good. But who knows i could of messed up checking it. Put i think i told u about that when we were talking in pm. So have you ran yours yet. You can also send it to me. Ill be honest and tell y if it was good or not:-)

[BG]

I had Alpha before too and it was good. But it does not change the fact there is something going on. I know guys who had it, the code checked and zero gains, only corn oil inside.

How do you know it was only corn oil? Did you have it legitimately tested by a lab?

[Far from massive]

I guess all my other Meds from India are UGL too since they are not FDA approved. While the FDA is a great org there are a TON of legit drugs being manufactured in countries like India that do not have FDA approval. That does not mean that they are likely to be fake. When you are talking a drug like Test there is little incentive for a pharma company to fake or underdose, even in kilo quantity the largest cost (BY FAR) is the Oil/BA/BB/vial/stopper/crimp not the Test itself, so I can only imagine how cheap test is when you are buying skids of it.

[SpanishStallion]

I guess all my other Meds from India are UGL too since they are not FDA approved. While the FDA is a great org there are a TON of legit drugs being manufactured in countries like India that do not have FDA approval. That does not mean that they are likely to be fake. When you are talking a drug like Test there is little incentive for a pharma company to fake or underdose, even in kilo quantity the largest cost (BY FAR) is the Oil/BA/BB/vial/stopper/crimp not the Test itself, so I can only imagine how cheap test is when you are buying skids of it.

The excipients and packaging are residual costs, less than the raw material costs. The biggest costs are human resources, facilities, procedures and licenses (if needed). Alpha Pharma is not manufactured in FDA approved facilities (not that Indian FDA approved facilities insure quality, look at Sun Pharmaceuticals, Cadilla, Ranbaxy or Wockhardt). This behemoths were proven by the FDA for faking lab tests and tampering with official documents and sending contaminated and sub-par products to the US.

[Far from massive]

The excipients and packaging are residual costs, less than the raw material costs. The biggest costs are human resources, facilities, procedures and licenses (if needed). Alpha Pharma is not manufactured in FDA approved facilities (not that Indian FDA approved facilities insure quality, look at Sun Pharmaceuticals, Cadilla, Ranbaxy or Wockhardt). This behemoths were proven by the FDA for faking lab tests and tampering with official documents and sending contaminated and sub-par products to the US.

"proven by the FDA for faking lab tests" And so have many US pharma's.

Needless to say Indian licensing and the control of pharmaceutical companies is not nearly as strict as the US, however they are Waaay better than a UGL.

As far as the biggest costs in manufacture of AAS being "human resources, facilities, procedures and licenses" the cost per bottle on an assembly line is super low, particularly in a country like India. However my statement was that the cost of Testosterone was a non-issue so the need to Fake or Under-dose gear would not be a concern, but thanks for reinforcing my point.

As far as contaminated and subpar products this is a big concern on products that are hard to manufacture or are expensive. Testosterone is both dirt cheap and easy to manufacture, to such a degree that most US suppliers buy their raw steroid powders from China. Keep in mind that any number of the same big name chemical manufacturers of hormones who sell to US pharma's will gladly sell to any manufacturer (like Alpha-Pharma) who has a document of import license for the said compound and country.

Anyhow if I could get some FDA approved AAS from my local pharmacy I damn sure would, however in the mean time I will continue to feel that Alpha-Pharma and most other Indian pharmaceutical products are far superior to either UGL or Research Chemical suppliers.

[< <Samson> >]

Reading the whole thread - I do agree, they aren't UGL's - and are in fact legit companies in other countries - yet, some seem a little fishier than others < they deal more into the grey market than legit pharmacies

But, are they really worth the extra buck? Compared to UGL there is a fairly large cost dif - yet, they're still not pharmaceutical grade - or even possibly faked & counterfeit

I dunno, my issue with UGL now is not their true legitimacy, but more of cleanliness of how this shit is made.

[michael30]

Samson i agree with you about ugl not being clean. A great way to counter that is to buy filters from ar-r and sterile vials on ar-r and just filter it. Another thing is to heat it vial to sterilize it. The info is on this site. Also wanted to add if you really look hard enough there are afew places that off AP at close to other ugl. Ill talk to ya in pm. Since we do anyways.

[michael30]

I also wanted to follow my thread up with
Although AP is(i feel) a step above UGL they are still not perfect in there manufacturing process. A good example of this if you buy there ampules. There not all filled correctly to 1ml like they should be. There anywhere from .9ml to 1.1ml if you just line up 5-10 ampules in arow none will be filled to the same spot. So even though there legally made in india they are not up to U.S. Pharmaceutical grade standards in my opinion.

[< <Samson> >]

Too funny

I just started filtering all of my gear aside from my old home brew guy's stuff

But, still - I just don't like that made in someone's bathtub feeling - really considering starting to cook down my own after the supply is diminished

[SpanishStallion]

"proven by the FDA for faking lab tests" And so have many US pharma's.

Needless to say Indian licensing and the control of pharmaceutical companies is not nearly as strict as the US, however they are Waaay better than a UGL.

As far as the biggest costs in manufacture of AAS being "human resources, facilities, procedures and licenses" the cost per bottle on an assembly line is super low, particularly in a country like India. However my statement was that the cost of Testosterone was a non-issue so the need to Fake or Under-dose gear would not be a concern, but thanks for reinforcing my point.

As far as contaminated and subpar products this is a big concern on products that are hard to manufacture or are expensive. Testosterone is both dirt cheap and easy to manufacture, to such a degree that most US suppliers buy their raw steroid powders from China. Keep in mind that any number of the same big name chemical manufacturers of hormones who sell to US pharma's will gladly sell to any manufacturer (like Alpha-Pharma) who has a document of import license for the said compound and country.

Anyhow if I could get some FDA approved AAS from my local pharmacy I damn sure would, however in the mean time I will continue to feel that Alpha-Pharma and most other Indian pharmaceutical products are far superior to either UGL or Research Chemical suppliers.

The cost per bottle on an assembly line is not just the electricity and the machine operators which are few. You would be surprised to find out that contract manufacturing cost for Alpha Pharma is bigger than the raw material + excipients + packaging. Its the whole facility cost, supervisors, operators, QC which is mandatory, validations (which are made for each batch separately) and the profits of the manufacturer. Keep in mind that Alpha Pharma is not owning its own facility (at least until few months ago) so they need to pay their share to the manufacturing units they work with. While testosterone as base its cheap and easy to manufacture, Testosterone Enanthate needs to be manufactured in a separate plant with temperature control and with whole manufacturing process and storage under controlled freezing temperature. Its not often that you will find a proper manufacturer for Testosterone Enanthate .

However its certain that Alpha Pharma is another league nothing to be compared with bath-tub or kitchen table-top labs however its not the only lab that has good stable quality there are other UGL that have similar or better quality. Alpha Pharma (J.) started the venture with raw materials from India which are of better and higher quality than China but shortly afterwards switched to cheap Chinese raw materials which are used till today.