Ordering online safe???!!!

**GTtheGUY** · 11-05-2018, 03:29 PM

I'm about to order a PCT and a couple other things from an online source. Looks like is will be shipped from The EU. So it has to pass customs. Do packages ordered online get caught by customs etc and bring problems often? Is this something I should worry about? Thanks

**Windex** · 11-05-2018, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by GTtheGUY

I'm about to order a PCT and a couple other things from an online source. Looks like is will be shipped from The EU. So it has to pass customs. Do packages ordered online get caught by customs etc and bring problems often? Is this something I should worry about? Thanks

International is always a bigger risk compared to domestic. The level of risk depends on the country it's coming from and the country it's going to. Also depends on how the seller ships the product, packaging, labelling, etc.

Some labs will also assume zero liability if anything happens - so if you lose out then you've wasted your money.

Plus getting seized can have legal consequences or have your address flagged making buying literally anything online a huge pain in the future.

Website could also be a scam or selling fake product if you don't know what to look for.

I'm assuming you are new given your initial question. You should try to spend more time finding a domestic source to start or research some of the big name labs that distribute via online.

**Scuba Greaves** · 11-05-2018, 11:13 PM

Why don’t you just order domestic?

**Eduke93** · 11-06-2018, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by GTtheGUY

I'm about to order a PCT and a couple other things from an online source. Looks like is will be shipped from The EU. So it has to pass customs. Do packages ordered online get caught by customs etc and bring problems often? Is this something I should worry about? Thanks

Never had an issues, just do your research on the source!! Stick with domestic if you can...

**Testlolblast** · 11-07-2018, 09:47 AM

Hey, Windex! Does domestic mean local, located in a country a person lives?

**PrimoCyp25** · 11-07-2018, 03:15 PM

Not sure about UK, there's bunch of labs shipping from Singapore due to very light regulations, if you keep your packages small, under 20 boxes of injections or 40 to 60 boxes of pills you should be fine, it will keep package under a kilo i belive and these get searched less, so I hear

**Windex** · 11-07-2018, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Testlolblast

Hey, Windex! Does domestic mean local, located in a country a person lives?

yes.

**mxgregg3544** · 11-13-2018, 07:57 PM

I've ordered small quantities 4 to 5 items and never had a problem.

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**Obs** · 11-13-2018, 11:30 PM

If you are in the US a shipment from europe is less likely to be seized. China is getting retarded amounts of scrutiny because of fentanyl crisis.

Chicago customs is about as scrutinous as they get.
I seem to have about a 50/50 rate of seizure from china if it hits chicago.

Any ugl worth using will reship free if seized.

No worries on the legal side as long as you arent ordering raws or huge amounts of gear.

**GTtheGUY** · 11-16-2018, 01:05 AM

Hey man, thanks for the info.

**Obs** · 11-16-2018, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by GTtheGUY

Hey man, thanks for the info.

Never heard of stack

**Testlolblast** · 12-08-2018, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by GTtheGUY

I'm about to order a PCT and a couple other things from an online source. Looks like is will be shipped from The EU. So it has to pass customs. Do packages ordered online get caught by customs etc and bring problems often? Is this something I should worry about? Thanks

Well the time has passed, I have considered all the pros and cons and as far as I know here in my country the laws are EXTREMELLY STRICT for real so there is no way neither to receive the package ordered in the best condition possible nor to pass it safely through customs. Because it's really possible to receive a microwaved gear in the eassieest way or in the worst case not receive it at all or even get behind the bars. For example, I have no experience with ordering steroids , but almost all the packages of prohormones I received were previously opened and the gear noticeably damaged or even not the same as for the starting point.
So yeah if I ever am going to do a steroid cycle in future I will search for the knowledgeable guys and buy the gear from them here in the gyms I know. I'm really sad about this but unfortunately that's the way it is.

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-08-2018, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by Testlolblast

Well the time has passed, I have considered all the pros and cons and as far as I know here in my country the laws are EXTREMELLY STRICT for real so there is no way neither to receive the package ordered in the best condition possible nor to pass it safely through customs. Because it's really possible to receive a microwaved gear in the eassieest way or in the worst case not receive it at all or even get behind the bars. For example, I have no experience with ordering steroids , but almost all the packages of prohormones I received were previously opened and the gear noticeably damaged or even not the same as for the starting point.
So yeah if I ever am going to do a steroid cycle in future I will search for the knowledgeable guys and buy the gear from them here in the gyms I know. I'm really sad about this but unfortunately that's the way it is.

I hate when they microwave my gear! Doesn't mix well w the metal caps. Sometimes, I microwave one at home to see if it has already been microwaved and compare it to other vials
Don't worry, I have a fire extinguisher at the ready just in case. I have also not broken my microwave yet

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-08-2018, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Testlolblast

Hey, Windex! Does domestic mean local, located in a country a person lives?

(not Windex) but didn't see a response. And it's a late one so probably not even relevant anymore.
Technically, domestic is a relative term. Meaning it is from the country that you are in. And this is the context we are using it in.
That being said, if you see "ships domestic" listed on an online source, that usually (not always) means US

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**ranger134** · 12-12-2018, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

If you are in the US a shipment from europe is less likely to be seized. China is getting retarded amounts of scrutiny because of fentanyl crisis.

Chicago customs is about as scrutinous as they get.
I seem to have about a 50/50 rate of seizure from china if it hits chicago.

Any ugl worth using will reship free if seized.

No worries on the legal side as long as you arent ordering raws or huge amounts of gear.

I live in Chicago and I don't think I ever had a pack seized. I did hear same thing about Chicago customs being a real bitch. I normally avoid international but some sources I really like including MGG. They are awesome. The best international stealth was from advanced pharmaceutical.

**Obs** · 12-13-2018, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by ranger134

I live in Chicago and I don't think I ever had a pack seized. I did hear same thing about Chicago customs being a real bitch. I normally avoid international but some sources I really like including MGG. They are awesome. The best international stealth was from advanced pharmaceutical.

Dunno mgg
AP had ok stealth I guess.
I think the best stealth I ever had or saw was from alin. Loved the gear always perfect. Too bad they drug ass on every order. Never got a shipment in under two months.

You could have put it in the greatest customs investigators hands and he would have had no clue whatsoever.

**Testlolblast** · 12-13-2018, 07:51 AM

Still dunno about the safety of all that online ordering thing as my case

Today I thought about it a lot and... how do you think maybe I should give a try and order from Poland? I strongly hope that in Poland based stores ship also to other Eastern European countries? I also need to know if it's possible to pay for the gear via VISA or MasterCard or even paypal?
By the way, you are also welcome to pm me.

**Heavyhitter5** · 12-13-2018, 08:59 PM

Lol thats some funny shit

**Couchlockd** · 12-14-2018, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Testlolblast

Still dunno about the safety of all that online ordering thing as my case

Today I thought about it a lot and... how do you think maybe I should give a try and order from Poland? I strongly hope that in Poland based stores ship also to other Eastern European countries? I also need to know if it's possible to pay for the gear via VISA or MasterCard or even paypal?
By the way, you are also welcome to pm me.

I wouldn't pay for gear with any of the above mention methods, even if I could

Bitcoin or Wu of Mg

**PrimoCyp25** · 12-14-2018, 10:39 AM

There's tons of sites that you can buy from, and a lot of gear gets shipped from Singapore due to no custom regulations, so it's easy for the shipper and ugls, there's few good ugls that will ship you things if you'll message them directly, on avg you can get 20-26 injection boxes or 60 pills to keep weight low, and might be oki when sized, I use to order gear from Eminence but recently they stopped shipping to US do to high seizures, and they shipped Singapore as well, so it's a tough call now says.

**ghettoboyd** · 12-14-2018, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

I wouldn't pay for gear with any of the above mention methods, even if I could

Bitcoin or Wu of Mg

I fir the last 5years have been paying CIM it is by far the easiest way but I have been using the same 4 sources for almost 10 years...I trust them all like family...never been burned...

**ghettoboyd** · 12-14-2018, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

I wouldn't pay for gear with any of the above mention methods, even if I could

Bitcoin or Wu of Mg

I fir the last 5years have been paying CIM it is by far the easiest way but I have been using the same 4 sources for almost 10 years...I trust them all like family...never been burned...