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    What is the shelf life of clen ? I have 1 new bottle that I purchased summer last year. Also, I have maybe a week or 2 of t3 left from a previous cycle. Can I use the rest of that up with clen and then finish my cycle of clen only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad103 View Post
    What is the shelf life of clen? I have 1 new bottle that I purchased summer last year. Also, I have maybe a week or 2 of t3 left from a previous cycle. Can I use the rest of that up with clen and then finish my cycle of clen only?
    I'd say it's still good.

    Give it a shot...you'll know right away if the clen is still good. Try like 20-40mcg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chew View Post
    Very informative, thank you! How difficult is Clen to get from a doctor in the US? Or is that not possible any longer with the press it's been receiving?
    Get it from the arr store...no script needed.

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    Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tballz View Post
    I'd say it's still good.

    Give it a shot...you'll know right away if the clen is still good. Try like 20-40mcg.
    I tried it and it seems ok. Do you know the color of it? I do not recall but mine is a dark color. I thought it was a yellowish color but then realized that was the t3

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    hi, I'm new here, but just wanted to ad to this thread, having been prescribed clenbuterol in the army for asthma.

    Number 1: It works miracles for asthma.
    Number 2: I went from 215 LBS to 175 in less than 3 months. Lost a lot of muscles mass, so there's no way anyone can convince me that this stuff is an effective anabolic medicine. And this is the first palce I've ever heard/read of clenbuterol having an anti-catabolic effect. I laughed at that.

    Number 3: The part about sweats, insomnia blood pressure raising, muscle cramps and so on... I experienced it all. Charlie horse cramps in my legs every night while taking it. And in the barracks, I was frequently asked to stop working out at 3 am... insomnia, increased respiritory function and desire to be active.. most definitely.

    Number 4: Ever since I got out, I haven't found a single civilian dr to give an Rx for it and now I know why; it's popularity among bodybuilders. No hard feelings. But they always look at me like I got a 12 inch dick on my forehead when I ask for it and say what a miracle it is for asthma. I'm a big guy anyway.. so maybe they just doubt it?


    So my conclusion, having been prescribed clenbuterol by military dr's... if you plan to use this to gain or even KEEP muscle... you might be in for more than a let-down, as my experience has shown clen to be VERY catabolic, but you'll still feel pretty good. I've also read someplace that different ppl have different experience.

    Anyhoo... since civilian dr's are pricks about it, I decided to go with a research lab "st*n"... now my issue is... what do they use as a carrier? I've been told all their products are for oral use, but I'm still concerned about what they use, so if anyone knows, it'd surely like to know. Looks like water and shows no signs of viscosity... has no taste or odor so... anybody know what they use to support the actual clenbuterol.?

    Thanks, and I hope I didn't burst too many bubbles here... clen just simply is not for anabolic use.. in my own experience, at least. More than effective enough for treating asthma and weight loss though for sure.

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    When taking the dosage, is it reccommended to split the dosage throughout the day, or take the clen in one hit?

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    been on clen for 4 days now

    Side effcts:-
    -High blood pressure
    -Increase heart rate
    -Headache
    -Pain in the lower back (now i know why , not drinking alot of water)
    -dryness


    and thats all with 60 mcg .. 3 tabs


    i'm wondering how effective the clen will be on dropping the bf% specially if you are around 12% or 11% BF .. i just need to get rid of last bif of the fat on lower abs .. been dieting for long long time , stalled at 71 kgs for a month and nothing working thats why i'm trying clen

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    Thanks for all the infos!

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    What else do I need to know?

    Ephedrine down regulates beta-2 receptors which lowers the effectiveness of clenbuterol . So you shouldn't take ephedrine before or while you are taking a break to let your beta-2 receptors recuperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FmRommel View Post
    Can Someone answer?
    Absolutely works, im on Keto (CKD) and have seen amazing results!

    I take the injectable though which works better then the tabs.

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    I will be doing my first clen cycle within the month but I'm still not clear about some things. Is stacking clen with t3 much more beneficial? If so, how much t3 should you use per serving? As for syringes, the ar-r website has a lot of them. Could somebody please recommend me which size to get?

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    would clen be safe for a 20 year old? anyone have reliable source for pills?
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    Can't I get this turine from diet or produced some how in body?? Its not an essential AA

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    Bump. I learned a lot from this thread and there seems to be a lot of Clen questions lately. Start at the beginning for the bulk of info on dose, timeline, etc.

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    my clen came at 40 mcg not 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiketannin View Post
    my clen came at 40 mcg not 20
    Pill cutter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolism View Post
    Clenbuterol handbook
    CLENBUTERAL FAQ: EVERYTHING YOU
    NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT CLENBUTEROL
    by BigAndy69

    What is Clenbuterol?

    Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
    for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
    FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
    like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
    like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
    hours and not 48 hours.

    Dosing and Cycling

    Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
    and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
    very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
    in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
    most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
    body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic /anti-catabolic properties
    fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
    consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
    for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

    Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

    Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP
    raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
    about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

    DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
    because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
    benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
    half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

    As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some
    would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
    Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
    may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
    time.

    Side effects

    NAUSEA
    NERVOUSNESS
    DIZZINESS
    DROWSINESS
    DRY MOUTH
    FACIAL FLUSHING
    HEADACHE
    HEARTBURN
    INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
    INCREASED SWEATING
    INSOMNIA
    LIGHTHEADEDNESS
    MUSCLE CRAMPS
    TREMORS
    VOMITING
    CHEST PAIN

    The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
    increased blood pressure.

    Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
    bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
    day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
    minimizing cramps.

    Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
    signs of a headache.

    Common Uses

    Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
    user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
    body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
    intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

    Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
    vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
    fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
    bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
    per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

    Alternative to Steroids : Clenbuterol has mild steroid -like properties and can be
    used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
    hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

    Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
    stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
    take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
    included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

    Precautions: Is Clen for you?

    The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
    some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
    with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
    are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
    before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

    A word on Ketotifen

    Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
    treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
    regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
    at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
    extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
    adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
    extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
    dieting.

    Cycling Clenbuterol

    Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
    high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
    the first 3-4 days of use.

    A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
    until the side effects are not tolerable

    Example of a first cycle:

    Day1: 20mcg
    Day2: 40mcg
    Day3: 60mcg
    Day4: 80mcg
    Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
    Day6-Day12: 100mcg
    Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
    normal gradually)
    Day14: 60 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    Example of a second cycle:

    Day1: 60mcg
    Day2: 80mcg
    Day3: 80mcg
    Day4: 100mcg
    Day5: 100mcg
    Day6-Day12: 120mcg
    Day13: 100 mcg
    Day14: 80 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    What else do I need to know?

    Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
    levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
    Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
    cramps. It's a must with Clen.

    Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
    your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
    advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

    Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day

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    why not do hiit???

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    Great info, thanks to all the contributors!

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    great info.. wish i found this a bit earlier

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    I bumped it a while back because everyone was asking Clen questions. How long, how much, how long, how much, how long...

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    I am trying to find a good Clen /T3 cycle dosing info. Can't seem to find one.

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    great thread..


    Any problems with taking clen at 20 years old? I know there are side effects. But curious if it was bad to take clen at a young age such as myself. compared to someone 30 years old taking it... or with clen, age shouldnt matter, as long as im over 18?


    thinking about giving clen a shot in a few months when its time for me to cut.... will be doing research till then..
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    Need some help i am really frustrated, i hear all the great results from Clen & T3 stack. i have been on this cycle for 2week now and i have put on weight. Day 1 had minimal side effects and no temp rise as of yet. i was at 900 cal a day working out 3 days aweek on avrage 3 hrs with 15 min cardio after workout. i was tol to incress my calories to 2200 and protin to 300gm a day.

    Is it possable someone with type 2 diabetes will not have the same results? or do i need to give he cycle more time? i also notice that it could be water weight my socks are leaving a indent at my anckles.

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    Welcome!

    Come on over to the "Diet Question" forum. Eating 900 calories is way too low. Something is off. You can get great results from the diet gurus....I promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by y2_dyc View Post
    When taking the dosage, is it reccommended to split the dosage throughout the day, or take the clen in one hit?
    Clen has a half life of 36 hours so no need to split up the dosages.

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    great stuff thanks

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    clen

    Clen is GREAT!!! if you can get use to the shakes lol

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    I have 50 mcg capsules they are so freaking strong I am getting ready to come off and do the clen . Going to stack it with T3

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    Brilliant advice, just started clen on my third day feeling a rush of energy when doing cardio, just gone up from half hour running to half hour running and half hour cycling, sweating like a dog. Thanks for all your help bruv

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    Could one add a T3 with there first clean cycle?? Would this cause any problems???? and if possible what doses using example #1?

    Example of a first cycle :

    Day1: 20mcg
    Day2: 40mcg
    Day3: 60mcg
    Day4: 80mcg
    Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
    Day6-Day12: 100mcg
    Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
    normal gradually)
    Day14: 60 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

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    bump. Great Thread.

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    Great read!

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    thank you for the informative post. this is very helpful to the beginner

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    ok so i've got a quesiton !

    I've been on clen for 2w following the the '2days on 2days off' guide ... with a max of dosage of 3 pills (0.02mg each) and now im about 2 weeks off it BUT i still feel random chest pains , blood pressure high/low and back pains ...also i feel very dehydrated after a short time of cardio ....and got no will at all... what worries me is the chest pains tho ....

    At day is alright i assume ...but when i go to bed i suddenly get some chest pain and at the slightest thought of 'bad thing' my heart starts racing .... also noticing that when i do cardio (even if im off clen) im sweatin like mad ...

    I've always been chubby/fat but i've been a sportsman the whole life ...playin soccer/mount climbing/jogging almost every day the past 3 years and NOT a smoker/casual drinker ...

    Are these side effects supposed to happen or what ??? Since im off it for almost 2 weeks n still feeling like im on it ....


    PLEASE ANSWER ME !!!!

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    thankx for the great info, its what i
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    i have clen in 40mcg doses from alpha pharma, i see that everyone have 20mcg, do i have false clen?

    and why not take 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, i see people just taking 2 days off

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