My Dr. or Anti Aging Clinic?

[Spyke]

I called an anti aging clinic in the sunshine state to see what they had to offer if I have to go on HRT.

They seem like they would be way more flexible then a typical dr office. They said that they really reccomend injectables and would have their drs put together a custom program for me based on my lifestyle which could include things like anti e if needed and even hgh. They even kinda implied that they may be able to put me on gear and the doc would supervise it if I wanted. 3 month treatment $450...Including meds I think.

I have a feeling that my dr may just want to put me on androgel or something to get me right smack in the middle of "normal" range and not really focus on things like estrogen....

What do you guys think

[Teabagger]

Heres the thing. You are probably assuming correctly about your md, and if cost is not an issue I'd go with the clinics. If cost is an issue, then go with your md, get what you can, and if you choose to run aas cycles on your own, do that. Example: 1 month of hgh therapy (2iu/day 5/2) at a typical clinic is gonna run you $400 to $500, whereas a kit of jin is less than $400.00 and that is 10 weeks worth at 2iu/day 5/2. It's all a tradeoff, cost v. time v. conveinance. Good luck.

[doublefister]

It also depends on what your goals are too. I have just been prescribed test cyp and hgh at very low doses. I mainly care for the hgh to help heal my shoulder right because I have a separated ac joint. Once 95-1005 healed then I will ready to do a full cycle.

Prices with the clinic are a little on the high end but I like the fact that I have it legally prescribed. Clinics also only get you back in the normal reference range not to go over so that will be the downside. They also dont want to keep you on it too long usually their goal is to get you back on track but they do want money so it depends on your clinic.

[jaze]

i went the clinic route. a little pricey but worth it ,clinic prescribed hgh 2iu 5/2 testblend 250 1 weeek and deca 200 1 a week, + nova however the villes com with enough for twice that dosage ...

[TOOBAD]

Hey Jaze, I am thinking about going that route. Can you send me some information on how you went about doing this, where and how much? My email address is [email protected] I would really like to go this route! My endo seems to be making things worse. BTW, what exactly is Hgh?

[Spyke]

Well my the test that the dr perscribed was 5 weeks worth and it cost me $70 with my ins. Oasis quoted me $120 for 10 weeks worth so they will actually be cheaper. Guess what I am gonna do??? LOL

The endo actually wants me to inject 150mg of test every 3 weeks


Oasis reccomended 150-200mg every week. Which appears to be very reasonable from everything I have read here and on other sites. So I am going to go with that dosage and check my total test in a couple months and adjust as needed so I am somewhere around 750 or so.

Why the hell do these endos and MDs underdose so much?

[Georgie]

Well my the test that the dr perscribed was 5 weeks worth and it cost me $70 with my ins. Oasis quoted me $120 for 10 weeks worth so they will actually be cheaper. Guess what I am gonna do??? LOL

The endo actually wants me to inject 150mg of test every 3 weeks


Oasis reccomended 150-200mg every week. Which appears to be very reasonable from everything I have read here and on other sites. So I am going to go with that dosage and check my total test in a couple months and adjust as needed so I am somewhere around 750 or so.

Why the hell do these endos and MDs underdose so much?

lol, because they are not prescribing it for bodybuilding purposes. 200 mg every 2 weeks is the normal dose for true HRT for most people

[Ufa]

Have fun.

[Spyke]

Your not going to get any anabolic effect until levels go over 1,000.

Spike: "Not trying to put together a steroid cycle here dude.

Just want to feel normal and have high normal test levels...."

Spike "Why the hell do these endos and MDs underdose so much"?

You seem to have two personalities.

UFA it seems you just love to start crap.....


My endo would like me on 150mg every 3 weeks right now! His "goal" for me is around 400 for total test.

I would like my test to be high normal (700). It appears that 150mg every 3 weeks will not get me there. Plus I will probably start to feel like crap again after the 2nd week. Several other guys have stated that their docs started them real low and it caused problems. This is what I am talking about with the underdosing.

If I was putting together a steroid cycle, I would be looking at 400 mg per week plus stacking it with other stuff.

Ufa you are a troll.

[Ufa]

Well my the test that the dr perscribed was 5 weeks worth and it cost me $70 with my ins. Oasis quoted me $120 for 10 weeks worth so they will actually be cheaper. Guess what I am gonna do??? LOL

The endo actually wants me to inject 150mg of test every 3 weeks


Oasis reccomended 150-200mg every week. Which appears to be very reasonable from everything I have read here and on other sites. So I am going to go with that dosage and check my total test in a couple months and adjust as needed so I am somewhere around 750 or so.

Why the hell do these endos and MDs underdose so much?

Please refrain from talking about prices!

[eisenmench]

TRT is very resonable at Fla anti-aging clinics. (10 weeks 200mg/week = $100). HGH is expensive in small quantities even using just 2iu 5/2. Go jin and buy quantity for less than half of clinic prices.You might as well buy a large lot as you will need a good 6 months of therapy for full effects. Price is important. You can pay $12iu, or $8iu, or $3.50iu depending on where and how much you buy.

[znak]

Please refrain from talking about prices!

Would one of the mods please come in here and get rid of this guy? Everytime I come back to this forum, it is just full of ufa-drivel. I feel like I need to take a shower.

Seriously. This guy is a problem.

[Spyke]

Would one of the mods please come in here and get rid of this guy? Everytime I come back to this forum, it is just full of ufa-drivel. I feel like I need to take a shower.

Seriously. This guy is a problem.

znak, I could not agree more!

[Teabagger]

Hell I just ignore him anymore. Sometimes the shit he says is so stupid its funny

[znak]

Hell I just ignore him anymore. Sometimes the shit he says is so stupid its funny

Yeah I know what you mean, but I am just tired of it.

I don't spend much time on this forum, but everytime I do read the threads, I see his garbage everywhere. The Mods do a very good job on the more active forums keeping these yahoos in check, I wonder why they have not done so here.

I have been on this board for a few years. This forum is getting a lot better. More people are sharing real experience (more of us out there). This is a good thing. I have been using TRT and/or cycling for as long as I have been on the board. I have made mistakes that I have shared. I have learned from the mistakes of others. Some topics seem destined for eternal debate (hcg for example).

I am smart enough to know that I need to arm myself with knowledge before I start messing with something as complicated as my endocrine system. This is one of many sourse I get that info from.

I have a very good sense of humor (scan my posts, I am really a pretty mellow guy), but I have zero tolerence for morons. He sounds like my daughter when she was 12-13, "Nah, you don't know squat", "you're so stupid", blah, blah, blah.

Nothing worse that someone with their hormones out of whack with the intelligence of a 12 year old.

That is Ufa in the nutshell. I can live without a 12 old class clown here.

[znak]

If you live in south FL, PM me or email me. I can refer you to some good ethical docs.

You can't receive PMs for another 18 posts. When you can, pm me some references. I am always looking for second, third and fourth opinions.

We are talking about our health here.

[jeepman]

How does one find these clinics?

I am currently on Androgel...my doc gave me a script and said "here...take this". He did do blood work and all that...but never asked me to return or whatever.

After reading here it sounds like I should probably find someone that specializes in this a little more. I found a D.O. that specializes in hormone imbalances, fatugue and so forth. I was actually searching for anti-aging and came across her. I have an appointment with her in a few weeks.

What's the best way to find these anti aging places?

[bringndaheat]

type in anti aging in google or just call the sponsor of this board!!

[animator]

How does one find these clinics?


What's the best way to find these anti aging places?

What city do you live in ?

[Ufa]

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[animator]

My doc started me on 100 mg/week for HRT. I just started it. I am going to see how this goes, and what kind of T levels I get, but I am guessing I'll end up with 200mg/wk based on what I read at the forum.

I am also on HGH as well. 3IU every day.

[spywizard]

I called an anti aging clinic in the sunshine state to see what they had to offer if I have to go on HRT.

They seem like they would be way more flexible then a typical dr office. They said that they really reccomend injectables and would have their drs put together a custom program for me based on my lifestyle which could include things like anti e if needed and even hgh. They even kinda implied that they may be able to put me on gear and the doc would supervise it if I wanted. 3 month treatment $450...Including meds I think.

I have a feeling that my dr may just want to put me on androgel or something to get me right smack in the middle of "normal" range and not really focus on things like estrogen....

What do you guys think

They would be more flexable, $450 sounds too good to be true, and you know what that means...

so check them out, who says you can't do both??? the anti-aging and your doc..

[UpstateNY]

I did this, I brought my Dr. copies of the above stickies and told him to read them as he is my "current" Dr. and I wanted treatment. If he wouldn't treat me now that he had all the data he needed(no excuses left), he wouldn't be my Dr long. He'd treat a woman for low estrogen, so why not a man for his key hormone? It's not risky when done properly. I told him of the online option as well as finding a "specialist" G.P. locally or going to an Endo. Either way, he'd loose me as a patient. Remind him that the Hipocratic Oath says "...do no harm..." and failing to, or refusing to treat for personal reasons is in fact a violation of said oath. He should at least refer you to someone who might be qualified to treat you properly. My Dr was speachless and impressed by my preperation. Having said this in front of his PA helped some, I'm sure, lol. Regardless, I started HRT as soon as my results got to him~! Tell him your insurance formulary doesn't cover transsdermals and you can't justify or afford the cost as a result. If you express concerns for dermal transfer as well, he'll likely prescribe injectables. Have him teach you to do the injections or find a friend or family member with experience so you don't have to go to the office!!! It's not hard or painful at all. The biggest hassle is filling the syringe due to the fact that the oil is so viscuss and it's not as easy as other chemicals. That's about the best I can offer right now. I'm sure I left something out so feel free to email me or PM me(once I'm qualified) and I'll offer what I can. Best of luck!
R.

[UpstateNY]

I forgot to add that the dose and frequency is up to the Dr, so that may be an issue for some. For me, we're working on getting it right. I'm not looking for bulk or strength building, just quality of life. Now that doesn't mean I'll accept test results that show me to be in the lower %!! Hell, I was off the chart low!!!!! My injuries and the medication I was on surpressed natural levels a great deal in my case. Simply getting me to the bottom of the "acceptable scale isn't going to cut it. I would prefer to be mid to upper level depending on how it makes me feel and what my bloodwork shows. Last but not least, going the Local Dr Route costs Very Little when your plan covers it. I'm paying $5 per month vs. several hundred. That leaves me the cash to do whatever I want with it. It still may end up being related to my HRT, but it's not going to be spent foolishly.
R.

[comradebillyboy]

I did this, I brought my Dr. copies of the above stickies and told him to read them as he is my "current" Dr. and I wanted treatment. If he wouldn't treat me now that he had all the data he needed(no excuses left), he wouldn't be my Dr long. He'd treat a woman for low estrogen, so why not a man for his key hormone? It's not risky when done properly. I told him of the online option as well as finding a "specialist" G.P. locally or going to an Endo. Either way, he'd loose me as a patient. Remind him that the Hipocratic Oath says "...do no harm..." and failing to, or refusing to treat for personal reasons is in fact a violation of said oath. He should at least refer you to someone who might be qualified to treat you properly. My Dr was speachless and impressed by my preperation. Having said this in front of his PA helped some, I'm sure, lol. Regardless, I started HRT as soon as my results got to him~! Tell him your insurance formulary doesn't cover transsdermals and you can't justify or afford the cost as a result. If you express concerns for dermal transfer as well, he'll likely prescribe injectables. Have him teach you to do the injections or find a friend or family member with experience so you don't have to go to the office!!! It's not hard or painful at all. The biggest hassle is filling the syringe due to the fact that the oil is so viscuss and it's not as easy as other chemicals. That's about the best I can offer right now. I'm sure I left something out so feel free to email me or PM me(once I'm qualified) and I'll offer what I can. Best of luck!
R.

I am doing the HRT test replacement with one of the Florida clinics. Regarding injections, I just did a google search and found some sites that are used for teaching nurses how to to do IM injections. The first time I was a little nervous, but I followed the directions an it all went very easily from then on. Your upper glute or deltoid are good places because you can see what you are doing. The sites also show you how to avoid hitting your siatic nerve which runs through your glutes.

[zaggahamma]

I am doing the HRT test replacement with one of the Florida clinics. Regarding injections, I just did a google search and found some sites that are used for teaching nurses how to to do IM injections. The first time I was a little nervous, but I followed the directions an it all went very easily from then on. Your upper glute or deltoid are good places because you can see what you are doing. The sites also show you how to avoid hitting your siatic nerve which runs through your glutes.

please post the link to the site about the siatic nerve....you got me scared..i go to shootin pretty laize faire

[comradebillyboy]

http://myphlip.pearsoncmg.com/altpro...=6645&vid=1110
for IM Injections. It clearly shows location of siatic nerve and how to avoid. I just did a google search on Intramuscular Injections. Lots of good info. Hope this helps. My Florida clinic also e-mailed an injection protocol.

[Triposinator]

I think half of his posts need to get corrected, either by Ufa, or a Moderator/Vet.

Reader beware is my advice.

Its entirely up to the Mods who stays and who goes. But the message is clear - being stupid and giving obviously bad advice is OK. It does reduce the value of this forum though.

Yeah I know what you mean, but I am just tired of it.

I don't spend much time on this forum, but everytime I do read the threads, I see his garbage everywhere. The Mods do a very good job on the more active forums keeping these yahoos in check, I wonder why they have not done so here.

Nothing worse that someone with their hormones out of whack with the intelligence of a 12 year old.

That is Ufa in the nutshell. I can live without a 12 old class clown here.

[jaykay1]

im trying testblend for the first time and i dont no much about it. can anyone tell me anythin about it as i cant find anything on the net

[zaggahamma]

jay....start a new thread you'll get better answers and looks than posting on a thread that is years old