Just started HRT andcant feel the effects

[mattp10]

im on 300 mg a week, from my doctor, for HRT. And its 2 weeks into it (3rd shot today) and i still cant feel it at all, all i have is a slight energy increase and appetite increase. Im wondering when the libido increase should happen, before hrt my test level was 251. can anyone tell me when i will feel this? i have arimidex and i was reading that i should take it to reduce estrogen, which could counteract the Test, i just didnt take it cuz i read the gains are better without taking it. PLEASE HELP

[zaggahamma]

i took the same amount that you're on when i first started injections (changed from androgel) actually started at 200mg....was getting a little stronger but wanted more so upped it even to 400mg for a couple weeks.
I did blood work while on 300mg and although my test level was at 1300 +, my estro had risen to 65....so the estro IMO hindered my gains...
if i had the 'dex, I would have taken it knowing what I know now...hope that helps....maybe you have access to more bloodwork and can keep an eye on your estro...i had to wait to see my results and they weren't suprising cuz I wasn't seeing any better gains/strength on the added test...hope this helps bro

[skipp]

test E takes a few weeks to fully kick in.. same thing with C. So it depends what you're taking.

[mattp10]

wow thank you both so much. i REALLY appreciate the help, i went to bodybuilding.com's boards first but most people there suck dick at helping you and they critisize and they told me it kicks in immediately, what a joke. Im on test Cyp, is it possible that my libido will just get better as my levels continue to rise? or is it pracytically an explosion at the 4 week mark? i hear thats when it floods out due to the ester being completely broken down. i had a litle more strength and shit today, little more agression and energy but i really loved it when i had rage in the gym cuz i could gear it to my workouts and not let it get outa hand....cant wait till 2 more weeks

[mattp10]

btw, i started arimidex today at .5 mgs and i take it 2ce a week. I thought if ur estrogen got too low it would kill ur sex drive? thats why i didnt take it. but if you guys are interested, i will post my lab results! im curious to the estrogen and progesterone levels as well. BTW jpkman, when did you feel the "testosterone boom" sex drive kick in? i miss that beign as im young and havent had it for 6 months, i have a failing pituitary just FYI.

[eisenmench]

I'm on 200mg test/c week and .5mg arimidex 3X week. I would like to read about your blood test results with your doses. Please post labs! I'll be getting blood work done in a few months and will post those labs.

[doublefister]

test cyp or enanthate will take 5-6 weeks to kick in so hang in there.

[mattp10]

okay so im not ****ed up and eventually ill be horny again! yay! haha i thought maybe my body was rejecting it, but im gettin bigger and stronger so ill just be patient thanks guys. and whoever wants to see my labs, they will be posted on this thread within 2 weeks! everyone take it easy.

[Spyke]

Please dont take arimidex until you have been on test for 8 weeks and the follow up labs show high estrogen.

[zaggahamma]

no doubt always keep us posted so we can always learn from each other...in answer to your direct ? about libido....this really wasn't an issue when i started TRT. However, when I started, I was on androgel and libido did increase(rather instantly) ....now on injects and no problems knock on wood golly gee....LOL
good luck bro

[mattp10]

Please dont take arimidex until you have been on test for 8 weeks and the follow up labs show high estrogen.

how come?

and about the libido thing, my levels were 251 before i started. i guess ill just have to wait to the 5 week mark till theyve climbed up?

[Kale]

how come?

and about the libido thing, my levels were 251 before i started. i guess ill just have to wait to the 5 week mark till theyve climbed up?

At 200mg they will be well over 700 by the end of five weeks and you will be very horny. I am on 100mg a week and I usually run over 1000. I would get a blood test for Estradiol before starting the adex, you may not need it at all.

[zaggahamma]

IMO, I don't think you're going to have to wait that long for your levels to go up....you haven't been retested yet, right?....your levels could have been up already and haven't known it....you said you had slight energy increases...just the way you describe that you are only noticing slight changes makes me think back to estro....and you're already taking 'dex know...I'd be looking for some results soon...if the testosterone is the only issue here.

[bringndaheat]

Hey bro you will feel the test really kick in by week 6. That is when you will KNOW you are a rockin. Have no doubt it will happen. As for the libdo part. Go grab a good porn and knock one out. By week 3 I was hard enough to cut diamonds. My girl now thanks I am superman. Bottom line I was just like you I was wondering when it was going to kick in. But you are already showing the signs......

[skipp]

I don't think it'll take 6 weeks but it will progress.. You'll prob feel better and better until then.. And if you definatly want to take the adex, wait until you feel the kick, that way you're not suppressing to much estro. But like the others said blood tests tell all.

[mattp10]

i hate to beat the dead horse as ive said it all allready, but thank you ALL SO MUCH. i needed help and i got it from this website, and Kale as for you, i appreciate your help as well, you always have good posts, and you helped me a long while back when i was in a grind with this.

[UpstateNY]

You've gotten really good advice here already so I'll just add how things went for me. I had low T and was started on gel first. Felt my libido change fast, but my levels were very low to start with so... It leveled off after that. Upped the gel and then switched to Test. Cyp. 1 ml of 200mg 1X per week. Tests came in at 1018 on the 9th day after my 4th week shot. I've had no need for arimidex or anything else so far. Doc wanted to go to 1/2 ml every 4or 5th day to drop it a bit. I feel no ill effects at 1ml/wk but will humor him for now and see how I feel and what my bloodwork says. It took about 5 or 6 wks and I felt my libido go up again. It's strong and steady and I feel great both physically and emotionally. I felt AWFUL before HRT!!!! THIS site saved me!!! Just for the heck of it, do some research on any meds you might be taking to see how they may effect you and your lab results. I'm going to experiment a bit with DHEA since my levels were low. I've been using Saw Palmetto and will see if I notice any change in bloodwork. Lost some body fat, put on some lean muscle. People compliment me on how I look a lot lately. Understand that this is more due to the fact that I am totally disabled than looking huge. I look as though I work out more than I can or do, but I never did get the out of shape look or fat. My strength is up as is my pain tolerance. Lowered is my discomfort and my depression. I'm weaning myself off my meds and that too should impact my bloodwork. NONE of this was possible without HRT AND this site! I'm soon to turn 44 and it was/is a hard adjustment to being retired and disabled! HRT has done more for me emotionally than anything else any Dr tried. If your T levels are low and you have a personality type like mine, you become depressed. Add to that the fact that my whole life has always revolved around physical exercise, physical labor and the like and it's easy to see why I got so down. Not looking to heal with Test. only, or to work out a lot or change my appearance, just have as good a quality of life as I can under the circumstances I must face. Everything else has been an added and appreciated benefit! I only regret I didn't learn of this sooner. It was 4 yrs of suffering. Who knows, maybe I could have rehabbed better after my injury and remained employed or gotten retrained before retired! Instead, the injuries worsened due to lack of concern on my employer's part as well as the insurance companies involved. I paid the price. Several Dr's have told me so. Lack of knowledge on my Dr's part didn't help either. That is why we must search for good Dr's and share their names with others in our situation. Learn as much as you can about HRT, and all the related topics. It's your body and your life. You only get one so make it the best you can. Hope this helped some. Keep us informed.
Maze

[mattp10]

Yeah i agree with everythin u said, only i was only feeling horrible for 6 months, im still very young tho. and yeah without being able to do wahtever i want all day not being held back, and feeling dominant, i get very depressed. Im just looking forward to being productive with my life again.

[mattp10]

anyone think it would be a good idea to take some Prop untill the cypionate takes effect? or DHEA? i have that lyin around

[WallyWorld637]

I was just like UpstateNY. I have been disabled for almost 4 years due to dysthymia. Depression was killing me. I have had emotional problems sense third grade. But really had problems when a graduated from high school. My life went down hill, and fast. I lost a great job with WalMart distribution center. I had been on every depression drug you can think of. I had my primary doc test my blood and my test level was in the 150 range, So I went on Androgel 10mg a day. I noticed an immediate change for the better. The first week in the third month of my Androgel use it just stopped working. I mean I can tell you the day it stopped. Well I changed docs. I go to a endo specialist now. He did my blood work and found from the Androgel my old doc put me on that my test was up to 550. He also found out that my B12 was low, estrogen was high, Thyroid was low, Cholesterol was high. So this is what he did. I'm on 200mg Test C a week, B12 injection 1 time every 2 weeks, 600 mg Red yeast rice twice a day for cholesterol, 90 mg Armour Thyroid 1 time a day, and Anastrozole .5mg 3 times a week for the estrogen. Mind you that I just took my first injection of the test yesterday. I banged out a workout today that I did not think I would ever be able to do again in my life. This workout was like the ones I had in high school. I will keep you posted as my progress. I'm like the rest of you. This forum has helped me tremendously. I'm not taking these meds to be the next big body building star. I just want to enjoy my life again.

[zaggahamma]

I was just like UpstateNY. I have been disabled for almost 4 years due to dysthymia. Depression was killing me. I have had emotional problems sense third grade. But really had problems when a graduated from high school. My life went down hill, and fast. I lost a great job with WalMart distribution center. I had been on every depression drug you can think of. I had my primary doc test my blood and my test level was in the 150 range, So I went on Androgel 10mg a day. I noticed an immediate change for the better. The first week in the third month of my Androgel use it just stopped working. I mean I can tell you the day it stopped. Well I changed docs. I go to a endo specialist now. He did my blood work and found from the Androgel my old doc put me on that my test was up to 550. He also found out that my B12 was low, estrogen was high, Thyroid was low, Cholesterol was high. So this is what he did. I'm on 200mg Test C a week, B12 injection 1 time every 2 weeks, 600 mg Red yeast rice twice a day for cholesterol, 90 mg Armour Thyroid 1 time a day, and Anastrozole .5mg 3 times a week for the estrogen. Mind you that I just took my first injection of the test yesterday. I banged out a workout today that I did not think I would ever be able to do again in my life. This workout was like the ones I had in high school. I will keep you posted as my progress. I'm like the rest of you. This forum has helped me tremendously. I'm not taking these meds to be the next big body building star. I just want to enjoy my life again.

awesome man...sounds like you have a very thorough endo...keep us posted...hope you're feeling better soon...welcome to the board

[ironaddict69]

sooo im almost in week 6 and dont feel better yet...

[ironaddict69]

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[ironaddict69]

sry mods aboutthe 3 posts the same, my internets messed up

[CoreyTampa09]

Well I got my 3rd injection on tuesday at 200mg test cyp/2weeks. I havent really felt much either but im anticipating this week as I heard its the week where it kicks in. AHhhhh just came back from my first cheal me in 3 weeks hopefully this will jumpstart my metabolism a bit. Crazy buffet iss thee shitttt!

[ironaddict69]

2 weeks in...definitely not. 4 at the soonest.

[eisenmench]

okay so im not ****ed up and eventually ill be horny again! yay! haha i thought maybe my body was rejecting it, but im gettin bigger and stronger so ill just be patient thanks guys. and whoever wants to see my labs, they will be posted on this thread within 2 weeks! everyone take it easy.

Did you get the lab work done yet?

[ojibwajohn]

This has been great reading for me...I'm 54, have been felling like death for 2 years, and finally found a Doc in Tucson who I believe will help me...had my first shot of Test cyp last Friday he's starting me at 75 ml a week for starters...am also taking 15 mg of oral hydrocortisone for my adrenal (I guess)...now I know it will take at least 4-5 weeks for me to feel better...right?...am considering augmenting with Androgel that I have left over for the newt 3-4 weeks...can't hurt, can it?

vr/ojibwajohh

[zaggahamma]

This has been great reading for me...I'm 54, have been felling like death for 2 years, and finally found a Doc in Tucson who I believe will help me...had my first shot of Test cyp last Friday he's starting me at 75 ml a week for starters...am also taking 15 mg of oral hydrocortisone for my adrenal (I guess)...now I know it will take at least 4-5 weeks for me to feel better...right?...am considering augmenting with Androgel that I have left over for the newt 3-4 weeks...can't hurt, can it?

vr/ojibwajohh

hey bro...glad you go some treatment...about the 4-5 week thing...I've never experienced such a thing as something kicking in....i felt better very shortly after beginning TRT especially injections....as far as adding in the gel....i have done it and will do it again....if you're monitoring yourself then you'll know how much you're doing...if you're doing 75 mg EW of cyp and on the 5th, 6th, and 7th day you add 10mg (each day-30mg total) of androgel to your body then you have 105mg for the week

[Tbol]

I am at 3 weeks on test eth and i have not seen any results other than some energy increase. Libido is slightly better but not anywhere near normal.
I have heard it can take 6 weeks to 6 months. I am on 200mg every two weeks but I am going to bump it to 200 every week if things do not improve.

I have also decided that i am going to give PCT one last try before i stay with this. I did not have HCG the last time I did pct

this time i will do two weeks of HCG and 4 weeks of nolva and 8 to 10 weeks of clomid. If that does not do the trick than nothing will.

I am also going to try myogenx to boost nadd test

[AnabolicBoy1981]

I am at 3 weeks on test eth and i have not seen any results other than some energy increase. Libido is slightly better but not anywhere near normal.
I have heard it can take 6 weeks to 6 months. I am on 200mg every two weeks but I am going to bump it to 200 every week if things do not improve.

I have also decided that i am going to give PCT one last try before i stay with this. I did not have HCG the last time I did pct

this time i will do two weeks of HCG and 4 weeks of nolva and 8 to 10 weeks of clomid. If that does not do the trick than nothing will.

I am also going to try myogenx to boost nadd test

dont you dare do clomid for that long are you kidding? mess ur vision up most likely. I would run the HCG 3 weeks, the clomid4 the nolva 6, and also run an AI for 4 weeks as well. If yer gonna do PCT, do PCT.