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    Anything to help get low GH levels for blood test?

    Any suggestions on how to get your GH levels as low as possible for lab tests so one can be approved for HGH HRT? Also what are the best ways to cycle HGH? Thanks all

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc77x
    Any suggestions on how to get your GH levels as low as possible for lab tests so one can be approved for HGH HRT? Also what are the best ways to cycle HGH? Thanks all
    I'd also like to know this too

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    stress, smoking, drugs and alcohol decrease HGH levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexed
    stress, smoking, drugs and alcohol decrease HGH levels
    Would those in combination actually be enough to drop your levels considerably enough though?

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    they dont test for GH they test for IGF that your liver produces in response to GH. So you want to reduce your IGF.Nolvadex and raloxifene will lower your IGF.

    Tamoxifen and estrogen lower circulating lipoprotein(a) concentrations in healthy postmenopausal women.Shewmon DA, Stock JL, Rosen CJ, Heiniluoma KM, Hogue MM, Morrison A, Doyle EM, Ukena T, Weale V, Baker S.
    Department of Medicine, Medical Center of Central Massachusetts, Worcester.

    Data in the literature suggest that circulating levels of lipoprotein(a) [Lp(a)] and insulinlike growth factor I (IGF-I) respond similarly to therapy with growth hormone , estrogen, or tamoxifen. To more clearly document these relations, we designed a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of the effects of tamoxifen and continuous estrogen on circulating levels of Lp(a), IGF-I, and IGF binding protein 3 (IGFBP-3) in healthy postmenopausal women. Both estrogen and tamoxifen decreased serum levels of IGF-I to 30% below baseline during the 3 months of treatment, while IGFBP-3 levels were unchanged. Plasma Lp(a) levels decreased to 24% below baseline after 1 month of treatment with either estrogen or tamoxifen (P < .05 for estrogen only); after 3 months Lp(a) decreased to 34% below baseline with tamoxifen therapy (P < .05) but returned to only 16% below baseline with estrogen. The correlation between Lp(a) and IGF-I was highly significant (P < .0001). We conclude that (1) tamoxifen lowers plasma Lp(a) levels in healthy postmenopausal women, (2) the suppressive effects of tamoxifen and estrogen on circulating Lp(a) concentration diverge after the first month of therapy, and (3) circulating levels of Lp(a) and IGF-I are strongly correlated with each other, an indication that they may share regulatory influences.

    PMID: 7522547 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Comparison of effects of the rise in serum testosterone by raloxifene and oral testosterone on serum insulin -like growth factor-1 and insulin-like growth factor binding protein-3.Duschek EJ, Gooren LJ, Netelenbos C.
    Department of Endocrinology, VU University Medical Centre, P.O. Box 7057, 1007 MB Amsterdam, The Netherlands. [email protected]

    OBJECTIVE: In aging men serum levels of testosterone and insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) decline, potential factors in the reduced muscle strength, a**ominal obesity, sexual dysfunction and impaired general well being of aging. The partial oestrogen agonist and antagonist raloxifene increase serum testosterone levels in aging men, but the effect of raloxifene on serum IGF-1 levels in men is unknown. In this study the effects of raloxifene on IGF-1 levels and the associated increase in serum testosterone were compared to the effects of oral testosterone supplementation. DESIGN AND PATIENTS: Thirty healthy elderly men between 60 and 70 years received raloxifene 120 mg/day or placebo in a randomised double blind fashion for 3 months. Secondly, seven female to male (F to M) transsexuals undergoing hormonal sex reassignment received testosterone undecanoate 160 mg/day. Measurement: At baseline and after three months serum levels of testosterone, IGF-1 and its most important binding protein, IFGBP-3 was measured. In the group transsexuals also serum gonadotrophins and 17beta-oestradiol was measured. RESULTS: Compared to placebo raloxifene increased serum testosterone by 20% but it decreased serum IGF-1 levels by 24.5% (95% confidence interval (CI): -13.0 to -36.1%). No significant change in serum IGFBP-3 levels was found. The effect of raloxifene on serum IGF-1 has been observed with other oral oestrogens, and, therefore, is likely to be ascribed to the partial oestrogen agonist activity of raloxifene. In the F to M transsexuals, serum testosterone levels increased from median <1.0 nmol/l to 6.2 nmol/l, without significant changes in serum gonadotrophins and 17beta-oestradiol levels. Serum IGF-1 levels increased by 12.1% (95% CI: 1.9-22.3%) versus baseline. No effect was observed on serum IGFBP-3 levels. CONCLUSION: Both raloxifene and oral testosterone increased serum testosterone, but raloxifene significantly decreased serum IGF-1 levels without affecting IGFBP-3. By contrast, oral testosterone supplementation in F to M transsexuals increased IGF-1 levels. In both treatment groups no significant change in serum IGFBP-3 was found.

    PMID: 15978972 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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