Am I UNSUPRESSABLE? ...plan not working

[AnabolicBoy1981]

so as u all may rememeber my plan to lower my test and get a script.... Well its not really workin. Been on NPP 200- 400mg/wk for 6 weeks and my testosterone was a raging 586ng/dl,!! which is my normal, 550-600ish. Interestingly my balls are atrophied by about 50%. Strentgh gains are good(not that thats the reason i ran this ), weight is up 5 lbs. Im sure its real.
I even stayed up late, several days in a row, ate no fat and carbs, overtrained a bit, took 2400mg of ibuprofin(it lowers test) for 4 days prior, took no vitamins, chewed tobacco...
I should have drank more alcohal Maybe.?
May seem like a silly thread but this has worked for a few on here. Its actually a good problem to have, just onconvienent since i want that script.
i stopped the arimidex as i theorize it may be the problem.

your thoughts?

[***xxx***]

the easiest explenation ist: it s not npp u r using but plain simple test p. common trick from dealers to sell cheap test p for more expensive npp.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

the easiest explenation ist: it s not npp u r using but plain simple test p. common trick from dealers to sell cheap test p for more expensive npp.

well of course i thought that. But, i dont think thats it. I have test p by the same company, and it hurts way more than the "NPP" in question.
Also ,my testosterone levels would be mcuh higher than 586ng/dl if that was the case. More like 3000ng/dl

[ottomaddox]

Your source could of given you a lower concentraion of test prop, enough to shrink your balls, but not enough to achieve a higher level that one would normally expect. Just my .02

well of course i thought that. But, i dont think thats it. I have test p by the same company, and it hurts way more than the "NPP" in question.
Also ,my testosterone levels would be mcuh higher than 586ng/dl if that was the case. More like 3000ng/dl

[LmbrJak]

why would you want to start TRT at 26 years old and with test levels all most 600?
I wish my natural test levels were that high.I take 100mg per week test e to get to a low of 750.

If you want higher test levels why not try an AI?

Dont worry in a few years your test levels will start to drop a little every year and when you get down to 200 you shouldnt have any problem getting a script

[AnabolicBoy1981]

why would you want to start TRT at 26 years old and with test levels all most 600?
I wish my natural test levels were that high.I take 100mg per week test e to get to a low of 750.

If you want higher test levels why not try an AI?

Dont worry in a few years your test levels will start to drop a little every year and when you get down to 200 you shouldnt have any problem getting a script

TRT why no. Nobody my age wants to be on for no reason. I was just gonna stockpile it for cycles. Id have approximatly enough for one cycle of 500mg/wk fer 10 weeks per year if she precribes 100mg a week. if i get her to bump it to 200, then ill have enough for 1000g cycles

and it will always be there, legit clean, LEGAL, no matter if all my other sources get nailed, arrested, killed, bankrupt....it will still be there. May not be anything exotic, but it will be there, forever..

[LmbrJak]

well, that makes sense,
I was going to suggest a Bilateral orcidectomy as a last resort

Plus you can save the vials and fill em up with what ever for travel with no worries.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

Your source could of given you a lower concentraion of test prop, enough to shrink your balls, but not enough to achieve a higher level that one would normally expect. Just my .02

i have thought about this.

It would have to be extreemly low dosed then, extremely. I mean, a 1ml volume shot, "100mg"(quotations indicating passibel false claim ) at 9PM that delivers 586ng by noon the next day..that is like 1/8th the hormone doseage mg for mg if they said it was test. Or say, eh, 1/4th if they were tryin to pass test of as nandy, and try to exhibit mild side effects with mild growth, etc.
but really if they were tryin to pass low dosed test as nandy, then i would think they probably would want it half as strong, which a 1ml shot/"100mg" should dleiver a reading of say 1500ng next day. that would be the smart thing for a ugl. Dosing it at 1/8th would just be dumb as nobody is gonna get results from it. But then again, there are so many who(rightfully) wont use nandy without test, so if they do 500mg of test, and 400mg nand, the small add on of test might make them think it is better than test alone. But would 600ng really make a difference? That would really equate to 50mg a week of extra test. So itd be the difference of 500-550, ...oh wow, right? Im pretty safe in daying thats negligable right? but my measurments are probably off. Most say a 100mg of test e a week gets them to 900-1000ng per week. Nelson Montana i believe said 100mg of test p will get you to 4000ng the next day. these are the figures im using.

Also, usually, i take 1ml/"100mg" EOD, but the day of the shot i had 2 consecutive shots of 1ml/"100mg", so even if this was low dosed test, this would just be sooooo super low. Im just not seeing a UGL do that gay of a move theyd be screwing themselves, cuz halfdoses would be perfect, anything less would be negligable as far as results, IMO.
Anyway, i plan on another test soon. I will see where im at. Then i will take another test, and do 2ml,200mg and see if the reading is around 1100 the next. If it is, then we will know its super low dosed test.
And then i guess i will not use the sachets ever again from a certain "shop".

[AnabolicBoy1981]

well, that makes sense,
I was going to suggest a Bilateral orcidectomy as a last resort

Plus you can save the vials and fill em up with what ever for travel with no worries.

TRUE! lol, never thought of that.

[pr0digy9daniel]

If you are on the stuff and your balls have atrophied the key is to stop doing it before the blood test. You need to do your blood test 1 to 2 weeks, probably about 10 days or so, after your last shot. Your bodys production will be lowest, and also, exogenous testosterone will be at its lowest also.

[godkilla]

if i am not mistaken your doc is gonna do bloodwork on your quite often and she will a) know your not taking the test shots or b)your test levels will return to normal and she will stop prescribing you test. either way trying to supress your natural test just for a few amps of test is not even close to worth it imo. oh yah and he could always give you the patch instead if he wasnted to

[AnabolicBoy1981]

if i am not mistaken your doc is gonna do bloodwork on your quite often and she will a) know your not taking the test shots or b)your test levels will return to normal and she will stop prescribing you test. either way trying to supress your natural test just for a few amps of test is not even close to worth it imo. oh yah and he could always give you the patch instead if he wasnted to

so what if they do regular BW? mt test level will be normal and and theyll be like "oh the shots are working"

and if i have a "skin irritation" from the patch and gel, i can get the shots. i have it all planned out

[Big]

so what if they do regular BW? mt test level will be normal and and theyll be like "oh the shots are working"

and if i have a "skin irritation" from the patch and gel, i can get the shots. i have it all planned out

but what happens if you save up for a cycle, then they want to bloodtest while you are in the middle of your cycle?

[bombguy]

so what if they do regular BW? mt test level will be normal and and theyll be like "oh the shots are working"

and if i have a "skin irritation" from the patch and gel, i can get the shots. i have it all planned out

I believe godkilla is somewhat correct. Once you get on TRT you will be on it for life as far as I have been told...I just started this week. The thing is that your test. levels will need to be lower than 250-300. I'm 31 and my initial test in June came back at 150 and I tested again 3 weeks ago and the level came back at 247...so my free test naturally was rebounding. But, I am still feeling lethargic and not as much energy in the gym. If you do get below those levels on a blood test, then you will need TRT to bring them back up.

Coincidentally, I had used Mass Tabs for 3 weeks then came directly off of them for 1 week before I had that initial blood test (I know, I know...shoulda done PCT)...I'm pretty sure this was the significant cause of my low test.

But, that didn't explain my lethargy for the 6 months prior to that...so I think I was lacking in the first place.

I guess if you really want to try it, then do what I did above. Get on Mass Tabs for a couple weeks, come straight off and go to the doc the week after. Complain of lethargy and low sex drive. They'll blood test you and you can go from there.

A couple other points to consider. I opted for shots...the doc was fine with it, and he let me learn how to administer myself. My test. is sitting on my fridge as I type! I believe most docs will give you the choice on administration. Another thing is doing a cycle while on TRT...I don't think it would be a good idea, because of the frequency of bloodtests. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a doc should be able to tell if your test levels are high because of clinical administration or "personal" administration.

[godkilla]

so what if they do regular BW? mt test level will be normal and and theyll be like "oh the shots are working"

and if i have a "skin irritation" from the patch and gel, i can get the shots. i have it all planned out

hey its your body. have fun

[LmbrJak]

but what happens if you save up for a cycle, then they want to bloodtest while you are in the middle of your cycle?

I have to go back in 6 months