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    TRT Experienced advice

    Bros,

    STATS/HISTORY
    29 yr old male
    5'8"
    185 natural, slight belly fat, otherwise trim

    diet: strict;
    workout:3-4/wk moderate-heavy lifting
    1/wk MMA
    2/run/cycle

    history: 3 botched attempts:

    CURRENT SITUATION
    I recently had blood work done and the results warrant TRT, which I was prescribed Androgel 10g/ed.
    My biggest question is do I need to run HCG , anti-estrogen or cortisol blocker or anything else recommended? And if so how much? I asked the doc and he said no, but we all know they don't have the AR mindset.

    In addition I will probably be adding a cycle in once I have been on TRT for a couple of months. What would be a good combo. I was thinking more test and maybe some winny, but how much I don't know. I may even be ready for tren at that point. I'm looking for your typical "lean mass cycle" looking more for strength gains. What do you think? Any advice will be helpful.

    FYI my test levels were self lowered when I had the blood work done.

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    any suggestions?

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    I'm curious how you "self-lowered" your test levels.

    Regarding your stack questions, everyone is different, but I don't know that I would recommend the winny. I have used it and it absolutely trashes your lipids in no time. From my research, it sounds like that is the case unilaterally.

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    I ran winny(alone) 50/mgs ed for about 3-4 weeks. That did the trick. My last total test bloodwork came back 140! I'm 29 yrs old and in good health. My levels should aroung 750.

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    Your 3 botched attempts, I guess you didn't do anything to lower your test before the blood test?

    BTW, how many vials of blood do they take for that sort of thing? I read some guy had like 9 vials taken, seems a bit much lol.

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    4 vials, but that was for various other thinhgs too, not just free and total test.

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