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    MRI for low test??

    My doc wants to give me an mri, after my test results came back low at 260... Does anybody know why he wants to give me an mri?

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    I was thinking that maybe he wants to see if I have a tumor that is efecting piturity glands...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    I was thinking that maybe he wants to see if I have a tumor that is efecting piturity glands...
    That is the reason. He will MRI or CT Scan your pituitary and see if there is a micronoma interfering with your pituitary. Keep this in mind - a very high percentage of males in the world have small growths on their pituitary and 95% of them go undetected because they have no affect on their physiology. Also, in almost all cases these are benign (non-cancerous).

    Were your other levels in check? I was in a similar situation a couple of years ago: my test was low, my LH and FSH were low, my SHBG was low, and my prolactin was high. The result of the CT scan was inconclusive - if there is a growth on my pituitary it is a "prolactinoma" and it is smaller than 3mm. There is no concern right now. I take trib to keep my natty levels up when I am not "on". I did not get an MRI.

    Good luck!

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    My total test was at 260, and free was at 48.6ish, and Im only 25!!

    Everything else was normal. Actually, my 260 was "in range" but in no way is that normal for a 25 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    My total test was at 260, and free was at 48.6ish, and Im only 25!!

    Everything else was normal. Actually, my 260 was "in range" but in no way is that normal for a 25 year old.
    I was in the same boat (and still am). At 29 the endo I went to see said that my levels were within normal range and normal for a 60 year old! I was offered HRT (and could have gotten it if I pushed), but at 29 I did not want to start something permanent and have to do regular blood tests (thus thwarting my cycling plans).

    Can I ask: what prompted you to get checked out? Did you have symptoms of low test or was it caught while testing for other things?

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    [QUOTE=BigJames]That is the reason. He will MRI or CT Scan your pituitary and see if there is a micronoma interfering with your pituitary. Keep this in mind - a very high percentage of males in the world have small growths on their pituitary and 95% of them go undetected because they have no affect on their physiology. Also, in almost all cases these are benign (non-cancero

    I'm glad I came across this, my test levels was in the 20's and she never even mentioned doing an mri regarding your above post. I'm gonna check up on this a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJames
    I was in the same boat (and still am). At 29 the endo I went to see said that my levels were within normal range and normal for a 60 year old! I was offered HRT (and could have gotten it if I pushed), but at 29 I did not want to start something permanent and have to do regular blood tests (thus thwarting my cycling plans).

    Can I ask: what prompted you to get checked out? Did you have symptoms of low test or was it caught while testing for other things?

    Why not just use AAS other than testosterone , such as trenbolone , which will not show up unless spicifically tested for? it would suppress and keep your testosterone levels low, while your doc and insurance provided the test e or sustanon for a great stack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexSavant
    Why not just use AAS other than testosterone, such as trenbolone, which will not show up unless spicifically tested for? it would suppress and keep your testosterone levels low, while your doc and insurance provided the test e or sustanon for a great stack!
    Crap. I am soo dumb. I did not even consider this...hahaha...well, if I end up on TRT in the future this is exactly what I will do...

    Thanks for the idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexSavant
    Why not just use AAS other than testosterone, such as trenbolone, which will not show up unless spicifically tested for? it would suppress and keep your testosterone levels low, while your doc and insurance provided the test e or sustanon for a great stack!
    yeah hahah great idea. than a bit later try to change your health insurance or get a life insurance with this in your medical records. that s the point when u will stop lau***ng...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    yeah hahah great idea. than a bit later try to change your health insurance or get a life insurance with this in your medical records. that s the point when u will stop lau***ng...
    Good point...although in Canada I am covered no matter what...health care for all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJames
    I was in the same boat (and still am). At 29 the endo I went to see said that my levels were within normal range and normal for a 60 year old! I was offered HRT (and could have gotten it if I pushed), but at 29 I did not want to start something permanent and have to do regular blood tests (thus thwarting my cycling plans).

    Can I ask: what prompted you to get checked out? Did you have symptoms of low test or was it caught while testing for other things?
    So, how do you feel when your off cycle? Do you lose alot of muscle with those low test levels?

    I felt like i never recovered from a cycle, and i went to endo and had it checked, and then kept getting it checked over a course of a year, and realized it was not improving. I was able to get it up to 430, but that was while i was on nolva and exem

    Thinking about just staying on nolva untill i decide to go on hrt, or do what you are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    yeah hahah great idea. than a bit later try to change your health insurance or get a life insurance with this in your medical records. that s the point when u will stop lau***ng...

    I was thinking about that..
    but I think in the long run, going through life with a condition not treated is worse than having high insurance rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJames
    That is the reason. He will MRI or CT Scan your pituitary and see if there is a micronoma interfering with your pituitary. Keep this in mind - a very high percentage of males in the world have small growths on their pituitary and 95% of them go undetected because they have no affect on their physiology. Also, in almost all cases these are benign (non-cancero

    I'm glad I came across this, my test levels was in the 20's and she never even mentioned doing an mri regarding your above post. I'm gonna check up on this a little more.
    glad we could help

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvd220
    So, how do you feel when your off cycle? Do you lose alot of muscle with those low test levels?

    I felt like i never recovered from a cycle, and i went to endo and had it checked, and then kept getting it checked over a course of a year, and realized it was not improving. I was able to get it up to 430, but that was while i was on nolva and exem

    Thinking about just staying on nolva untill i decide to go on hrt, or do what you are doing.
    When I am off cycle I seem to go up and down. I will feel fine for a few months and then feel crappy. If I am consistent with a trib dosage of about 1500 mgs a day 5 days a week (2 days off) then I feel fine. I have not lost much muscle which leads me to think the endo was on the money with her theory about my specific situation. In fact, after my first cycle I lost a bunch of water weight due to stopping the Test and getting a BRUTAL flu and then maintained my body weight without issues. In fact, I just watched a video taken of me about 5 months AFTER my cycle had ended and I looked HUGE and full - some people that watched it dubbed it "the gun show" because of my 18+" arms.

    I would expect nolva to boost your natty levels...I like trib because it seems to work for me (I know some say it does nothing) and it does not negatively affect IGF-1 levels like nolva does. Nolva also boosts your overall estrogen levels because it prevents estrogen from being absorbed at the breast tissue so it can result in some other hormone related issued if you are not on Test.

    Anyway, good luck man. I hope you can find something that works for you ASAP!

    Take care,

    BigJ

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