Making A Come Back

[weyershausen]

Hey Guys-


I statrted juceing when i was 23 im now 30. In the 7 years i have probably done 5 cycles. in the begining i did not take any anti est or hcg . my more recent cycles have been better planned.
My last cyle was in april made it up to 185 which was a record for me. im 5'11". I then had to have a surgery on my wrist putting me out of the game for nearly 7 months. within the seven months i had blood work done. My testosterone was down to 51. Doc put me on hcg therapy for 6 weeks. Did more blood work and I was at 47. So I think it is clear that my natural testosterone is not working. Doc then put me on "Test therapy" which turned out to be test cypionate 200 mg a week....after 9 weeks i got gyno. then started to ejaculate blood. He told me to cut the dose in half. i decided to stop every thing and do my own research which is why I'm here. has anyone ever heard of such a thing?
here is my question does any one know of anyways to get my natural test going again? My doctor does not seem to have any other answers for me.
part of me wants to give it a rest. Then start a cycle.

[zaggahamma]

Hey Guys-


I statrted juceing when i was 23 im now 30. In the 7 years i have probably done 5 cycles. in the begining i did not take any anti est or hcg . my more recent cycles have been better planned.
My last cyle was in april made it up to 185 which was a record for me. im 5'11". I then had to have a surgery on my wrist putting me out of the game for nearly 7 months. within the seven months i had blood work done. My testosterone was down to 51. Doc put me on hcg therapy for 6 weeks. Did more blood work and I was at 47. So I think it is clear that my natural testosterone is not working. Doc then put me on "Test therapy" which turned out to be test cypionate 200 mg a week....after 9 weeks i got gyno. then started to ejaculate blood. He told me to cut the dose in half. i decided to stop every thing and do my own research which is why I'm here. has anyone ever heard of such a thing?
here is my question does any one know of anyways to get my natural test going again? My doctor does not seem to have any other answers for me.
part of me wants to give it a rest. Then start a cycle.

never heard of that from just taking test...heard of it after biopsy of the prostate (lived it rather)...hope you are seeing a uro VERY soon

[weyershausen]

on my way to him now!

[keith1958]

on my way to him now!

Good Luck Bro keep us posted

[weyershausen]

went to the urologist. took blood, going to see him in a week to talk about my options. said i should not have been shooting blood from the small amount I was taking.

[zaggahamma]

yes good luck..hope all is good

[Coach 44]

Let us know how it goes bro! Good Luck.

[weyershausen]

Doc said the blood was probably from something I ate. He's got me on clomid to bring up my natural test levels.
I asked him if there was a solution for gyno, his answer blew me away. He said that some guys are just predisposed to it. The best treatment he had to offer was very low doses of radiation to the breast area. This will stop the male breast form ever forming gyno ever again. If the clomid does not work, he's going o put me on testosterone therapy . followed by the radiation therapy due to my sensitivity to gyno. Has any one ever heard of it? The doc tells me he has been performing it more often due to more guys seeking test therapy. He also says there are little to no side effects and 100% safe. CRAZY!

[TheSmay]

He's right about being predisposed to gyno, some get it bad some not at all. As for the treatment, I would try Arimidex or Letro on my own before I did something radical. I get gyno with high dosages of test but under 300 a week I'm fine. The first time I got it I tried Arimidex and it started clearing up right away and completely vanished in a couple of months. I always run it now with any cycle, I don't need it during TRT since I'm only running 150 a week. I've had good luck with Lion at AAR on all of his products, you may want to try him as he is a well respected member of this board.