TRT/HRT and depression?

[newrobb]

i'm self administering my own TRT (i'm on the normal to low end but doctor's won't treat me and i saw the leading specialist in Toronto so i'm not going to shop around o.k.). my question is this:
i take meds for depression and mood. my doctors are warning me about sing Testosterone E and how it could affect my mood. "there is a 30-50% chance that Test E can/may/will cause depression" as a side effect.
i've started a cycle of 250mg of Test E injected once per week. i'm using to enhance my quality of life (i'm 44) and as an aid to my bodybuilding.
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anyone in the same boat, or any opinions, thanks.

[whiteowl]

hey newrobb....just my experience talking here....my Dr wanted to treat me for depression for almost two years...prozac prescriptions laying untouched in my desk....i told him upteenth times i was not depressed...spend my life confident and motivated...that i was just lethargic, apathetic, insomniac, fatigued and unmotivated....he lectured me on the no shame side of being treated for depression....woke up with night sweats and did my own search on WebMD and found out the sides of low test....SAME SAME....but because of abuse in the news, Drs are much safer throwing buckets and anti-depressants at you instead of looking at HRT....i demanded the blood tests for HRT and stated if he did not i wanted my files before i left his office that day....he ordered the test ...test was at 143....after 6 months of HRT all ...i mean ALL the symptoms are gone..... I]not treating[/I] HRT is where the depression side effect is....do some thread searches on anti's and test to cover all angles....mine is but one experience

[TBones]

Exactly whiteowl. i was going to say that if you get your test levels in order, there's a good chance you wont need the antidepressants.

TBone

[whiteowl]

hey M8,

here is a thread from another thread:

The use of steroids combined with Seresta ( anxiety medication ) ....check it out ...it is in first category ANABOLIC STEROIDS - QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ....by Spooky

[zaggahamma]

hey newrobb....just my experience talking here....my Dr wanted to treat me for depression for almost two years...prozac prescriptions laying untouched in my desk....i told him upteenth times i was not depressed...spend my life confident and motivated...that i was just lethargic, apathetic, insomniac, fatigued and unmotivated....he lectured me on the no shame side of being treated for depression....woke up with night sweats and did my own search on WebMD and found out the sides of low test....SAME SAME....but because of abuse in the news, Drs are much safer throwing buckets and anti-depressants at you instead of looking at HRT....i demanded the blood tests for HRT and stated if he did not i wanted my files before i left his office that day....he ordered the test ...test was at 143....after 6 months of HRT all ...i mean ALL the symptoms are gone..... I]not treating[/I] HRT is where the depression side effect is....do some thread searches on anti's and test to cover all angles....mine is but one experience

very well said
and good advice
good luck bro

[BigMC]

i'm self administering my own TRT (i'm on the normal to low end but doctor's won't treat me and i saw the leading specialist in Toronto so i'm not going to shop around o.k.). my question is this:
i take meds for depression and mood. my doctors are warning me about sing Testosterone E and how it could affect my mood. "there is a 30-50% chance that Test E can/may/will cause depression" as a side effect.
i've started a cycle of 250mg of Test E injected once per week. i'm using to enhance my quality of life (i'm 44) and as an aid to my bodybuilding.
~
anyone in the same boat, or any opinions, thanks.

I have had 2 Drs. try to put me on anti-depressents. The first succeeded and I took Zoloft for 2 years...I was in my mid 20's. I didnt know anything about TRT or to even ask to get imy hormones checked. After 2 years I was tired of taking the meds and took myself off. It was the worst crap I have ever went through emotionally but after I got off I felt better. Now 7 years later I went back to the Dr. because of no sex drive, lathargic, etc...I have all the classic symptoms of Andropause. My test came back and I was very low. I am now wondering if this was my problem even in my 20's. That being said, your depression could be directly related to your low hormone levels. You should talk to your Dr. but I would think you should come completely off those meds before starting Test. You may find a little Test. each week will solve your problems. Definately worth talking to the doc about it.

[newrobb]

I have had 2 Drs. try to put me on anti-depressents. The first succeeded and I took Zoloft for 2 years...I was in my mid 20's. I didnt know anything about TRT or to even ask to get imy hormones checked. After 2 years I was tired of taking the meds and took myself off. It was the worst crap I have ever went through emotionally but after I got off I felt better. Now 7 years later I went back to the Dr. because of no sex drive, lathargic, etc...I have all the classic symptoms of Andropause. My test came back and I was very low. I am now wondering if this was my problem even in my 20's. That being said, your depression could be directly related to your low hormone levels. You should talk to your Dr. but I would think you should come completely off those meds before starting Test. You may find a little Test. each week will solve your problems. Definately worth talking to the doc about it.

did u read my post?

[ChuckLee]

From what we all test users know, more test than normal could cause nothing but GOOD MOOD, inverse of depression, I feel depressed when I quit with it.
It sounds like a controversy...

[kloan]

hey newrobb....just my experience talking here....my Dr wanted to treat me for depression for almost two years...prozac prescriptions laying untouched in my desk....i told him upteenth times i was not depressed...spend my life confident and motivated...that i was just lethargic, apathetic, insomniac, fatigued and unmotivated....he lectured me on the no shame side of being treated for depression....woke up with night sweats and did my own search on WebMD and found out the sides of low test....SAME SAME....but because of abuse in the news, Drs are much safer throwing buckets and anti-depressants at you instead of looking at HRT....i demanded the blood tests for HRT and stated if he did not i wanted my files before i left his office that day....he ordered the test ...test was at 143....after 6 months of HRT all ...i mean ALL the symptoms are gone..... I]not treating[/I] HRT is where the depression side effect is....do some thread searches on anti's and test to cover all angles....mine is but one experience

Sorry to revive an old thread but I found this while Googling for an HRT doc in Toronto..

I'm amazed to see those are the exact same symptoms I've been feeling for the past few years. I'm turning 29 soon and I never thought in a million years that it'd have to do with low hormone levels.

Looking back when I got blood work done around 3 years ago, the doc actually said my free test was a little low.. but didn't offer any treatments, and I thought nothing of it.. didn't realize it could cause such symptoms.

Now I know... I think I might go get some blood tests again and see where I'm at.

[gungho9]

Sorry to revive an old thread but I found this while Googling for an HRT doc in Toronto..

I'm amazed to see those are the exact same symptoms I've been feeling for the past few years. I'm turning 29 soon and I never thought in a million years that it'd have to do with low hormone levels.

Looking back when I got blood work done around 3 years ago, the doc actually said my free test was a little low.. but didn't offer any treatments, and I thought nothing of it.. didn't realize it could cause such symptoms.

Now I know... I think I might go get some blood tests again and see where I'm at.

The Dangers of Exogenous (external and synthetic)
Testosterone Replacement Therapy

One of the most undesirable side effects of exogenous testosterone replacement therapy is the shrinkage of the male genitals, the penis and testes. The medical term for the condition is "testicular atrophy". With prolonged usage, your penis will shrink to the size of your little finger.

Now imagine this. You get a high sex drive with the testosterone replacement therapy, yes, but your erected penis is the size of your thumb. Not a very good scenario, isn't it?

As a matter of fact, the renown Mayo Clinic lists the following side effects with exogenous (external and synthetic) testosterone replacement therapy:

* Cause skin reactions
* Cause fluid retention
* Cause baldness
* Cause or aggravate sleep apnea (brief, repeated cessation of breathing during sleep)
* Stimulate non cancerous (benign) growth of the prostate and cause or worsen urinary symptoms
* Stimulate growth of prostate cancer that's already present
* Enlarge breasts (Gynecomastia)
* Stimulate growth of breast cancer that's already present
* Cause testicle shrinkage (Testicular atrophy)
* Limit sperm production (Infertility)
* Stimulate excess blood production (Polycythemia)

I'm sure you agree with me. Its not pretty. However the number of prescriptions of testosterone replacement therapy has increase over the years. And the primary reason is I believe the lack of emphasis by doctors and pharmaceutical companies on the negative side effects of the treatment.

[ZonaDave]

The Dangers of Exogenous (external and synthetic)
Testosterone Replacement Therapy

One of the most undesirable side effects of exogenous testosterone replacement therapy is the shrinkage of the male genitals, the penis and testes. The medical term for the condition is "testicular atrophy". With prolonged usage, your penis will shrink to the size of your little finger.

Now imagine this. You get a high sex drive with the testosterone replacement therapy, yes, but your erected penis is the size of your thumb. Not a very good scenario, isn't it?

As a matter of fact, the renown Mayo Clinic lists the following side effects with exogenous (external and synthetic) testosterone replacement therapy:

* Cause skin reactions
* Cause fluid retention
* Cause baldness
* Cause or aggravate sleep apnea (brief, repeated cessation of breathing during sleep)
* Stimulate non cancerous (benign) growth of the prostate and cause or worsen urinary symptoms
* Stimulate growth of prostate cancer that's already present
* Enlarge breasts (Gynecomastia)
* Stimulate growth of breast cancer that's already present
* Cause testicle shrinkage (Testicular atrophy)
* Limit sperm production (Infertility)
* Stimulate excess blood production (Polycythemia)

I'm sure you agree with me. Its not pretty. However the number of prescriptions of testosterone replacement therapy has increase over the years. And the primary reason is I believe the lack of emphasis by doctors and pharmaceutical companies on the negative side effects of the treatment.

nice list! can you list all the side affects and health related issues from low testosterone and/or high estrogen in men?

[martink]

Xanax is one of those medicines which help in relieving anxiety and depression, but this medicine should only be used for small duration as this is habit forming drug and sometimes the withdrawal symptoms can be more depressing. The withdrawal from this medicine is a slow and gradual process rather than abrupt. Xanax works by slowing down the nervous system and hence relieves anxiety. The best way to get over anxiety and depression is to take a break from your regular schedule, go out, and take good sleep. This helps in clearing the mind and try consulting a specialist who can suggest you as how you can get over your problem. http://www.xanax-effects.com

[THORSZ]

The Dangers of Exogenous (external and synthetic)
Testosterone Replacement Therapy

One of the most undesirable side effects of exogenous testosterone replacement therapy is the shrinkage of the male genitals, the penis and testes. The medical term for the condition is "testicular atrophy". With prolonged usage, your penis will shrink to the size of your little finger.

Now imagine this. You get a high sex drive with the testosterone replacement therapy, yes, but your erected penis is the size of your thumb. Not a very good scenario, isn't it?

As a matter of fact, the renown Mayo Clinic lists the following side effects with exogenous (external and synthetic) testosterone replacement therapy:

* Cause skin reactions
* Cause fluid retention
* Cause baldness
* Cause or aggravate sleep apnea (brief, repeated cessation of breathing during sleep)
* Stimulate non cancerous (benign) growth of the prostate and cause or worsen urinary symptoms
* Stimulate growth of prostate cancer that's already present
* Enlarge breasts (Gynecomastia)
* Stimulate growth of breast cancer that's already present
* Cause testicle shrinkage (Testicular atrophy)
* Limit sperm production (Infertility)
* Stimulate excess blood production (Polycythemia)

I'm sure you agree with me. Its not pretty. However the number of prescriptions of testosterone replacement therapy has increase over the years. And the primary reason is I believe the lack of emphasis by doctors and pharmaceutical companies on the negative side effects of the treatment.

The is the first time I ever heard someone say your penis will shrink. I'd like to know where you are getting your information from.
Nice first post.....

[zaggahamma]

i got a big ass thumb

[BOB89]

What if my penis is already smaller than my thumb, does that mean it will grow while on TRT. If so double my dosage and stand back

I had to do the course of anti-depression meds before my doc started me on TRT. They didn't help but made me feel like I was walking in mud all the time. I took them for 3 months. felt like shit about it the whole time, knowing that wasn't the problem. At the end of three months with no change he started me on TRT. He took me off the anti-d meds. Not an issue since. I think its common to be diagonised with deppression while its a TRT issue. Always demand the bloodwork is the best advice I can give.


That way you treat the problem not the symptoms

[FallenWyvern]

nice list! can you list all the side affects and health related issues from low testosterone and/or high estrogen in men?

Agreed. Unmotivated fat people pose a bigger health risk to themselves.

[FallenWyvern]

Um, penis shrinkage. I want to see an abstract with that in it.

[j4ever41]

Um, penis shrinkage. I want to see an abstract with that in it.

x2..

[BOB89]

Um, penis shrinkage. I want to see an abstract with that in it.

I would actually perfer to never see penis shrinkage be it abstract or realist.

Sorry bad joke but I couldn't help myself.