help for a friend

**toneloc85** · 09-18-2008, 01:00 PM

i have a buddy at work who is 36 or 37,about 5'9 and 170 +or- 5 pounds with prolly about 15-18% bf. says he weight trains 5 times per week,and does mma training for cardio,he is wanting to loose body fat and gain lean mass. i am not sure how intense/proficient his training is,but his diet seems to be lacking. he takes lots of exspensive supplement stacks but doesnt seem to focus enough on real food. however he was wondering if he took an AI if it would help to raise test.lower estrogen and overall decrease bodyfat. if yes would he be better off buying somthing from lion or would an over the counter like 6oxo be more what he is looking for? appreciate the help.peace.

**zaggahamma** · 09-18-2008, 01:28 PM

i havent heard of a lot of ppl doing just an anti E alone

**FullMoonHowlingWolf** · 09-18-2008, 01:33 PM

IMO I wouldn't recommend an AI. Sounds like he needs to focus on diet which is a huge part of training. If it was easy to look great, everyone would, but it takes a lot of work. Also, you stated you don't know about his training, another big factor in progress.

**toneloc85** · 09-18-2008, 11:49 PM

yea i agree i will tell him not to bother and just run his ass off and stop eating cookies all day at work lol, thanks.

**peptide** · 09-19-2008, 12:48 AM

Clean up the diet and when nothing else seems to work some HGH will strip fat off a 37 year old man.

**FullMoonHowlingWolf** · 09-19-2008, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by toneloc85

yea i agree i will tell him not to bother and just run his ass off and stop eating cookies all day at work lol, thanks.

You're welcome and if he wants to boost his test levels he could try some Tribulus Terrestris and/or Tongkat Ali. Also, to burn fat, use the ECA stack.

**toneloc85** · 09-19-2008, 08:41 AM

i have read a lot on here about ECA stack but havent researched it. i will do so.

**zaggahamma** · 09-19-2008, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by toneloc85

yea i agree i will tell him not to bother and just run his ass off and stop eating cookies all day at work lol, thanks.

no more: big bags of chips, gallons of dip, took me a week to get the......

**FullMoonHowlingWolf** · 09-19-2008, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by toneloc85

i have read a lot on here about ECA stack but havent researched it. i will do so.

AM empty stomach cardio combined with the ECA stack IMO is a great way to burn fat.

**SWOLLL** · 09-20-2008, 01:26 AM

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I don't remeber which one but they are all pretty informative and long.