My fathers HRT..... question about his HCG timing

[Hazard]

Hey fellas,

My father is 47y/o - and is on testosterone replacement thereapy. Here is his schedual.....

10 weeks on test cyp - 250mg's/wk then on week 12 the doc wants him on HCG and clomid for 42 days straight..... then he goes for blood work....... then gets back on test for 10 weeks and etc.....

From my own research..... shouldn't hcg be run DURRING your test usage? I don't mean to question him..... he's an MD who specializes in HRT..... just curious as to what his reasoning may be.....

~Haz~

[Joxi]

I even cant believe the post, is this a joke:
1. father, young one 47
2. 250mg week of test, thats how much i do on a cycle
3.cycling test and pct, is this some new kind of cuising, if it is it sounds interesting.

good luck to your FATER
ps. he is obviously not prone to gyne, i would have tits ....

[Hazard]

I even cant believe the post, is this a joke:
1. father, young one 47
2. 250mg week of test, thats how much i do on a cycle
3.cycling test and pct, is this some new kind of cuising, if it is it sounds interesting.

good luck to your FATER
ps. he is obviously not prone to gyne, i would have tits ....

It's 100% true..... I'm going to be 25 y/o - he's 47. The dosage is 100% correct also..... 250mg's/wk and no he's not prone to gyno at all.

~Haz~

[Hazard]

ttt any help?

~Haz~

[flatscat]

Hey fellas,

My father is 47y/o - and is on testosterone replacement thereapy. Here is his schedual.....

10 weeks on test cyp - 250mg's/wk then on week 12 the doc wants him on HCG and clomid for 42 days straight..... then he goes for blood work....... then gets back on test for 10 weeks and etc.....

From my own research..... shouldn't hcg be run DURRING your test usage? I don't mean to question him..... he's an MD who specializes in HRT..... just curious as to what his reasoning may be.....

~Haz~

Even without his levels, 250/week is too high, hcg can/should/maybe be run every week (depends on who you talk to), and if he really needs trt, then he should not need to come off of it.

I think a ton of these anti-aging clinics are doing this - run test for 10 weeks and then go on some sort of pct - then back on the t. Mine had me do it - the one and only time I did come off the t ( a month ago) - it was horrible and that was just for about three or four weeks.

He will most likely have a problem with E2 at that dose of t.

[GTOne]

i have never heard of running hcg and clomid for that many days for in between trt "cycles". especially at 47.

i do a 10 week schedule with 2 to 3 weeks off with hcg and nolva for the first 15 days. this makes it easier if i ever decide to go off trt. still would require a monster pct, but could get back.

but, i also have the option of running hcg during the 10 week cycles and not taking any time off before the next (so you never take breaks). this is for those that are sure they are on it for life, but want to keep their balls working and full. more in line with what a 47 year old would be after imo. heck, i am 40 and am thinking of moving to this model.

250 does seem high, but everyone is different. i have heard of dosages that high, but usually cycled (so maybe 250 to 300 for 10 weeks and then to 100 for the next 10). "mini/low dosage cycles" mixed in with trt. i have this option and take advantage of it from time to time.

[GTOne]

and i agree with flatscat. at his age and that dosage and ai is a must. i take 1mg 3 times a week to keep e in check.

[Hazard]

The doc hasn't prescribed an AI yet for him..... *shrugs* My father has cycled in the past...... going up to 1000mg's/wk. He's always followed proper procedure as far as having your pct and anti E's on hand. He's never needed a-dex or nolva durring cycle.....

So more or less...... his dosage is rather rare and he shouldn't be off of test for more than 3 weeks or so?

~Haz~

[flatscat]

The doc hasn't prescribed an AI yet for him..... *shrugs* My father has cycled in the past...... going up to 1000mg's/wk. He's always followed proper procedure as far as having your pct and anti E's on hand. He's never needed a-dex or nolva durring cycle.....

So more or less...... his dosage is rather rare and he shouldn't be off of test for more than 3 weeks or so?

~Haz~

Ok, now what are his levels? Why is he on trt? If he is on because of low t/low free t then he is/was feeling like crap and has alot of the symptoms right? Just because you show no signs of gyno does not mean that your E2 levels are ok. when he was doing 1000mg's week he wasn't too worried about feeling normal right? When I started and to this day, dialing my E2 level in was the hardest thing to do. I have just now gotten close I think. And I showed to signs of gyno. If he is on trt for the right reasons, then his E2 level should be a concern because he probably won't feel his best until it is dialed in. I know there are some guys who do not have a problem with it at all on trt - so he may be one of those - but he needs to at least have it checked it - if he hasn't already then around 4-5 weeks in. As we get older, E2 becomes a bigger problem for the most part. Just my two cents.

[Hazard]

Ok, now what are his levels? Why is he on trt? If he is on because of low t/low free t then he is/was feeling like crap and has alot of the symptoms right? Just because you show no signs of gyno does not mean that your E2 levels are ok. when he was doing 1000mg's week he wasn't too worried about feeling normal right? When I started and to this day, dialing my E2 level in was the hardest thing to do. I have just now gotten close I think. And I showed to signs of gyno. If he is on trt for the right reasons, then his E2 level should be a concern because he probably won't feel his best until it is dialed in. I know there are some guys who do not have a problem with it at all on trt - so he may be one of those - but he needs to at least have it checked it - if he hasn't already then around 4-5 weeks in. As we get older, E2 becomes a bigger problem for the most part. Just my two cents.

Thank-you for this info! His test level was 196 before trt...... his last 10 week treatment was 200mg's/wk and after his hcg and clomid his test levels were a little over 300. So the doc gave him 250 for 10 weeks and said he would like him to be around 600 in his next blood work. He wants him to go for blood work right after his last clomid pill for a more accurate reading. His last bloodwork was done 2 weeks after clomid treatment.

Regarding E2...... i'll let him know to ask the doc and see what he says.

thank-you again man
~Haz~

[flatscat]

Thank-you for this info! His test level was 196 before trt...... his last 10 week treatment was 200mg's/wk and after his hcg and clomid his test levels were a little over 300. So the doc gave him 250 for 10 weeks and said he would like him to be around 600 in his next blood work. He wants him to go for blood work right after his last clomid pill for a more accurate reading. His last bloodwork was done 2 weeks after clomid treatment.

Regarding E2...... i'll let him know to ask the doc and see what he says.

thank-you again man
~Haz~

I think it's great you are looking out for him. Why don't you tell him where this board is and have him check it out - I am sure he can pick up a few things!

[FallenWyvern]

This isn't true TRT, it's a cycle in disguise.