MY TRT Delemma, need advice, may stop<<

[TASSY5]

OK, here is my deal.
40 yr old male, 230 and work out 5 days a week
married 23 years
3 sons 21.,20, 12
TRT therapy since January 08.
200 mg Test C per Week
.5 Arimides EOD

My wife is on Lexipro, and had a Hysterectomy and has No sex life nor does she seem to like dealing with my constant Sexual needs since being on TRT.
I always get the you don't need it and you are doing it just for selfish reasons.
I was in a normal range of natural test but the doc said it would do wonders for me as it has. But my family life is starting to suffer due to my Sexual urges and my wifes sexual urges are not even there anymore since on the Lexipro and the Hysterectomy.
IF I stop even for a couple of months to calm myself down. Will I have any sides or problems with No Post Cycle Therapy?? What can I do??

This is serious so please, no jokes about getting a new wife or girlfriend.
I love my wife and need some honest helpfull advice.

[T-MOS]

get a new wife or girlfriend!......LOLOL sorry, had to say it


If you stop without PCT, then you will definitely have libido issues, your natural test may or may not come back on its own. you will feel like crap. You can drop the dose down to 50-75 mgs/week and see if that slows you down a bit while still giving you enough test to feel good

Is your wife willing to do anything about her lack of libido?

[warchild]

agree w/ t-mos drop dose to 100mgs a week for a bit

[Dont wanna be old]

I understand what you are going through . Therefore I will be looking at your post to see if I can get any ideas. My wife has 0 interest in me . I thought about KY has some stuff called Intense . Advertisements claims to make her enjoy sex. Other than that I take her out to Detriot casino. They have a strawberry daiquiri in a 18'' glass. That will break the ice. Good luck

[rogue01]

If you are going to go off, why don't you do PCT?

[amcon]

brother, the issue may not just be the medical needs she has been going through... when what the last time you took her out? most times (and this may not be your case) it stems from deep in her, frustrated, lack of forgiveness, too much stress and more that she is going though(on top of all the other things she is dealing with medically)

#1 - ask her on a date
#2 - dont even try to get physical with here till this is fixed or close to fixed
#3 - seek councling - you both go (tell her it is for you not her)
#4 - does she have a past w abuse (dont answer this) but look in to it, council shoud help if she does
#5 - bro, take care of your self in the shower or in the prone and tmoss love thread

... as for the trt/hrt you on now what are you numbers? that would be a good place to start - if your way high that might be a place to cut back some... but, if you numbers are right on and your just being you then what can you do???? well, you could get some tren and kill your sex drive (i am just kidding!!!)

[TASSY5]

Thanks for the assistance guys.
I meet with the Doc on the 16 of June to go over my blood levels. Will let you know them.

brother, the issue may not just be the medical needs she has been going through... when what the last time you took her out? most times (and this may not be your case) it stems from deep in her, frustrated, lack of forgiveness, too much stress and more that she is going though(on top of all the other things she is dealing with medically)

#1 - ask her on a date
#2 - dont even try to get physical with here till this is fixed or close to fixed
#3 - seek councling - you both go (tell her it is for you not her)
#4 - does she have a past w abuse (dont answer this) but look in to it, council shoud help if she does
#5 - bro, take care of your self in the shower or in the prone and tmoss love thread

... as for the trt/hrt you on now what are you numbers? that would be a good place to start - if your way high that might be a place to cut back some... but, if you numbers are right on and your just being you then what can you do???? well, you could get some tren and kill your sex drive (i am just kidding!!!)

Very good advice that I may try.
But believe it or not, since my last post, we discussed me possibly moving out for a while to see where this whole thing goes.( sad that it has come to this)

[Theatrix]

brother, the issue may not just be the medical needs she has been going through... when what the last time you took her out? most times (and this may not be your case) it stems from deep in her, frustrated, lack of forgiveness, too much stress and more that she is going though(on top of all the other things she is dealing with medically)

#1 - ask her on a date
#2 - dont even try to get physical with here till this is fixed or close to fixed
#3 - seek councling - you both go (tell her it is for you not her)
#4 - does she have a past w abuse (dont answer this) but look in to it, council shoud help if she does
#5 - bro, take care of your self in the shower or in the prone and tmoss love thread

... as for the trt/hrt you on now what are you numbers? that would be a good place to start - if your way high that might be a place to cut back some... but, if you numbers are right on and your just being you then what can you do???? well, you could get some tren and kill your sex drive (i am just kidding!!!)

100% agree! There may be other issues in her head that could be addressed first. Try to reach her first. If you stop, you could develope resentments that will only complicate your relationship further.

Depending upon how you are coping with her situation, she may resent your "selfishness". If she gets it into her head that you are only interested in satisfying yourself, she will shut down and the road back will be a lonely one.
Look at it this way, she is feeling as if her life is deteriorating and you are feeling better than you have in many years. I see this as a time to try and understand her head, do a lot of masterbating, and build a deeper relationship through this.

Or not, because the alternative will destroy your marriage.

[CHAP]

Hey a marrage is give and take

1- If you love her enough to give up sex all togather. good for you
2- As your wife she does have a job to fill you need as do you to her.

It sounds like you need marrage councling. If you stop having sex and you adjust eventually she will forget that she is the 1 that didnt want it and begin to think your the 1 that dosent love her and she will get it from somewhere.

You both have to find some mid-ground in this situation or it will result in a worse situation than your having now.

These are just my 2Cents.

Her not wanting sex = BAD
You wanting to give sex up for good =BAD

Good luck I know you gotta be taring the head off it right now!! LOL

[wanabeMASSIVE!]

Buy her some ice, im sure a diamond necklase would do wonders in the love dept!

All together agreed with amcon!


Good luck m8!

PEACE!

[TASSY5]

100% agree! There may be other issues in her head that could be addressed first. Try to reach her first. If you stop, you could develope resentments that will only complicate your relationship further.

Depending upon how you are coping with her situation, she may resent your "selfishness". If she gets it into her head that you are only interested in satisfying yourself, she will shut down and the road back will be a lonely one.
Look at it this way, she is feeling as if her life is deteriorating and you are feeling better than you have in many years. I see this as a time to try and understand her head, do a lot of masterbating, and build a deeper relationship through this.

Or not, because the alternative will destroy your marriage.

your spot on it, How she feels is in bold print of your quote.

[TASSY5]

She does feel that our relationship these days is only based on my sexual urges and she doesn't want to go there anymore. She told me Sex is out from now on

[learnerdriver]

Every statement i have read seems to be about how to fix your wife. What about you, how do you feel about the situation. Is it simply a lack of sex drive because by what has been stated, it seems like an excuse. Normally if all was well in other parts of your relationship then she would want to pleasure you but would find it difficult due to low sex drive. How was your relationship before the lexipro etc.

Are you chasing her too much, as in trying to meet her demands and letching over her, this can create a negative thought process against you, unconsiously she may resent herself but it becomes about you.

Why should you stop trt, why i see no reason if your happy in yourself and it's just the sexual issue then it can be dealt with in other ways.

Does she still find you attractive, do you find her. Do you communicate well and feel connected. Sex can become just an act and for men it's a need rather than a desire to share yourself with your partner.

Bit of a rant but guess am saying look deeper into your relationship and get to know each other again, then sex will follow, or a better attitude from your wife regarding the situation.

[TASSY5]

Every statement i have read seems to be about how to fix your wife. What about you, how do you feel about the situation. Is it simply a lack of sex drive because by what has been stated, it seems like an excuse. Normally if all was well in other parts of your relationship then she would want to pleasure you but would find it difficult due to low sex drive. How was your relationship before the lexipro etc.

Are you chasing her too much, as in trying to meet her demands and letching over her, this can create a negative thought process against you, unconsiously she may resent herself but it becomes about you.

Why should you stop trt, why i see no reason if your happy in yourself and it's just the sexual issue then it can be dealt with in other ways.

Does she still find you attractive, do you find her. Do you communicate well and feel connected. Sex can become just an act and for men it's a need rather than a desire to share yourself with your partner.

Bit of a rant but guess am saying look deeper into your relationship and get to know each other again, then sex will follow, or a better attitude from your wife regarding the situation.

NOTED ,, and Well put if I must say. Thanks for the honest speaking.

[Papa Smurf]

Man this thread reads like the story of my life for the past year! Last year, im fat. outa shape, low test levels, no sex drive.
My wife hasnt gotten back into shape since my son was born 11 years ago.
She has not be interested in sex since the birth of my son. I got back in shape for myself first, be healthy for my kids, and was hopin to jump start the sex life. But like you stated, I got the ole your selfess bull crap! I was able to correct a medical problem through treatment, but now I get acused of just being a horney old man. Well, sometimes in life, you have to look out for yourself.

I love my wife and kids dearly, and would never hurt them. But I also look after myself as well. She always gets first shoot. But never takes it. So I have a "good" friend that has the same problem with her husband.


It works for us, not saying its right.......... but it works........

[rogue01]

Eroc1313, is she cool with it or is it kept private? If she knows about it...good for you. She is a keeper

[learnerdriver]

Eroc1313 it's nice to hear your taking control of the situation, not to say that what your doin is right or wrong. Just be careful as you may feel it's just a sexual thing but your new female friend may want more in the end. The thing that stands out in both cases is the statement of being selfish, sounds like low self esteem on the wife's part. When you were down she probably felt more equal but now gets to see you enjoying life, jealousy is evil and difficult to get past.

[Coach 44]

And this, my dear friends, is why I have two ex-wives and a freak in the sack as my current wife. Just like my players, sometimes you have to cut a real nice kid to make room for a gamer that will get you to the promised land.

[rogue01]

I think after 2 I would have stopped getting married

[StevePJC]

My friend I feel for you. I really do. Since my doc let me go on the shot at home, my life has gone from 'eh, to *POW.* Just from a shot every other week. Still have hopes of going to every week but that's neither here nor there.

My drive has gone through the roof. My wife though, who is supposed to be in her prime is getting tired of me. I aint the best looking guy out there so starting up something on the side would limit me pretty much to hiring a professional.

Try a different approach. Plan date nights, send her roses at work. Get back on her good graces and hopefully she'll remember why she married you in the first place. I wish you nothing but the best. I know it aint easy.

[TASSY5]

My friend I feel for you. I really do. Since my doc let me go on the shot at home, my life has gone from 'eh, to *POW.* Just from a shot every other week. Still have hopes of going to every week but that's neither here nor there.

My drive has gone through the roof. My wife though, who is supposed to be in her prime is getting tired of me. I aint the best looking guy out there so starting up something on the side would limit me pretty much to hiring a professional.

Try a different approach. Plan date nights, send her roses at work. Get back on her good graces and hopefully she'll remember why she married you in the first place. I wish you nothing but the best. I know it aint easy.

Thanks man. I am trying to work through this.

All of the replies are well taken and I do appreciate all of your responces.

[amcon]

Thanks for the assistance guys.
I meet with the Doc on the 16 of June to go over my blood levels. Will let you know them.


Very good advice that I may try.
But believe it or not, since my last post, we discussed me possibly moving out for a while to see where this whole thing goes.( sad that it has come to this)

ya bro listen, sad your going through this and very comendable that you are will to suffer to help her out... but and i mean a very big bbuutttt, you need to keep you strong and hrt is not selfish it is needed.

if she has issues help her every way you can = and just love her till she comes around

[amcon]

brother, the issue may not just be the medical needs she has been going through... when what the last time you took her out? most times (and this may not be your case) it stems from deep in her, frustrated, lack of forgiveness, too much stress and more that she is going though(on top of all the other things she is dealing with medically)

#1 - ask her on a date
#2 - dont even try to get physical with here till this is fixed or close to fixed
#3 - seek councling - you both go (tell her it is for you not her)
#4 - does she have a past w abuse (dont answer this) but look in to it, council shoud help if she does
#5 - bro, take care of your self in the shower or in the prone and tmoss love thread

... as for the trt/hrt you on now what are you numbers? that would be a good place to start - if your way high that might be a place to cut back some... but, if you numbers are right on and your just being you then what can you do???? well, you could get some tren and kill your sex drive (i am just kidding!!!)

Thanks for the assistance guys.
I meet with the Doc on the 16 of June to go over my blood levels. Will let you know them.


Very good advice that I may try.
But believe it or not, since my last post, we discussed me possibly moving out for a while to see where this whole thing goes.( sad that it has come to this)

100% agree! There may be other issues in her head that could be addressed first. Try to reach her first. If you stop, you could develope resentments that will only complicate your relationship further.

Depending upon how you are coping with her situation, she may resent your "selfishness". If she gets it into her head that you are only interested in satisfying yourself, she will shut down and the road back will be a lonely one.
Look at it this way, she is feeling as if her life is deteriorating and you are feeling better than you have in many years. I see this as a time to try and understand her head, do a lot of masterbating, and build a deeper relationship through this.

Or not, because the alternative will destroy your marriage.

Buy her some ice, im sure a diamond necklase would do wonders in the love dept!

All together agreed with amcon!


Good luck m8!

PEACE!

your spot on it, How she feels is in bold print of your quote.

ya bro listen, sad your going through this and very comendable that you are will to suffer to help her out... but and i mean a very big bbuutttt, you need to keep you strong and hrt is not selfish it is needed.

if she has issues help her every way you can = and just love her till she comes around

im going to show my wife how smart i am with the chicks... lol

[Johnny Sinn]

Man this thread reads like the story of my life for the past year! Last year, im fat. outa shape, low test levels, no sex drive.
My wife hasnt gotten back into shape since my son was born 11 years ago.
She has not be interested in sex since the birth of my son. I got back in shape for myself first, be healthy for my kids, and was hopin to jump start the sex life. But like you stated, I got the ole your selfess bull crap! I was able to correct a medical problem through treatment, but now I get acused of just being a horney old man. Well, sometimes in life, you have to look out for yourself.

I love my wife and kids dearly, and would never hurt them. But I also look after myself as well. She always gets first shoot. But never takes it. So I have a "good" friend that has the same problem with her husband.


It works for us, not saying its right.......... but it works........

My thoughts too. Find a DLP(Dirty Little Piece)

[Papa Smurf]

My thoughts too. Find a DLP(Dirty Little Piece)

Man................... Im so pissed right now! ................... never mind

[TASSY5]

Man................... Im so pissed right now! ................... never mind

I wouldn't be pissed. I appreciate your point and it was well taken, since I posted this thread.

There is always some Ass who jumps in with a high school attitude and doesn't respect what is really the point of this situation.

[Papa Smurf]

I wouldn't be pissed. I appreciate your point and it was well taken, since I posted this thread.

There is always some Ass who jumps in with a high school attitude and doesn't respect what is really the point of this situation.

Thanks Tassy, SOB is tryin to make my "friend" sound like some crack whore......... dumb, stuiped, mother******!

[ENraged]

Maybe he meant dirty as in skilled?

[ENraged]

to the original poster It sounds a lot more like she is the one being selfish! I am sorry but I have gone through this with my girl back in the day and it was all her!
She has issues that need to be dealt with or else your relationship is going got go rite in the toilet! Even considering going off TRT because you have energy and a healthy sexual appetite and your wife needs to sort her shit out is just retarded. I went through and it got to the point that I calmly told her I love her and will be home every night but I am going to get me some tail! I explained that it was nothing more then I needed release and would prefer it to be with her but if she refused then i would seek alternative means. She understood and even though i never followed through with it we were on the same page.
Now a few years later she got her hormones straightened around and its on!
Drives me nuts to see al this kiss her butt stuff just so you can get some ass jesus its not like you are asking for a kidney its something both parties should get enjoying and if not then seek a doctor to fix the issue.. grrrrrrrrr Yes I am on a cutting diet!

[flatscat]

Dude - don't stop your trt. I stopped for other reasons and it is total hell. If you don't think she wants it now, just wait until you go back to your old, lethargic uninterested and unable self. Even with pct, your best case is to end up where you began, and if you are like me that is no place to be. I hope to start back up as soon as I can. And, although not in the same situation as you with the wifey, I can tell you she REALLY won't want it if you stop and you will feel even more horrible about yourself.

At least now you are probably thinking when you see a hottie that you would have a shot at it if you wanted it. If you stop, what will you be thinking?

I am 40 also and was just above the bottom end of normal. You really won't know how good you feel now until you stop and then you will be sorry you did.

Good luck, live your life as full as you can, and don't stop bro.

Flats

[TASSY5]

Very good advice guys ( i really appreciate your honest inputs. I makes me feel better to see it isn't just me causing this issue with her)
And you are right she does need a hormone check up and I am trying to get her to go to a Endo.

[ENraged]

if she will not see the endo then schedule couple counseling and bring it up there. having that neutral person there to back you up can mean all the difference in the world.

[learnerdriver]

excellent idea about counselling

[Theatrix]

Tassy..if you have the time, read this thread. I didn't realize myself how screwed up woman become after a Hyst. There are some workable solutions in their that may interest your wife.

http://womenshealth.about.com/b/2008...sterectomy.htm

[Theatrix]

If you don't get to read the entire thing (because its long) this stuck out when I read it. Something to lookinto to.

My 3rd posting. After months of research, my wife made the decision to try bio-identical “pellet” hormone theropy. The pellets where inserted into her upper hip. This is after extensive blood work and a bone density scan. She also found out her thyroid was not working correctly. Another condition of females with no hormones. It’s now been barely 30 days and she already sees many improvements. She’s sleeping better. No hot flashes. Better memory and just a general feeling of being “herself” once again. Sex has also become a part of our life once more.

So please do your research, contact an MD that specializes in this area. You can find them on the web with a little digging. It’s worth the time and money. I can promise you that.

[MR PHATT ASS]

OK, here is my deal.
40 yr old male, 230 and work out 5 days a week
married 23 years
3 sons 21.,20, 12
TRT therapy since January 08.
200 mg Test C per Week
.5 Arimides EOD

My wife is on Lexipro, and had a Hysterectomy and has No sex life nor does she seem to like dealing with my constant Sexual needs since being on TRT.
I always get the you don't need it and you are doing it just for selfish reasons.
I was in a normal range of natural test but the doc said it would do wonders for me as it has. But my family life is starting to suffer due to my Sexual urges and my wifes sexual urges are not even there anymore since on the Lexipro and the Hysterectomy.
IF I stop even for a couple of months to calm myself down. Will I have any sides or problems with No Post Cycle Therapy?? What can I do??

This is serious so please, no jokes about getting a new wife or girlfriend.
I love my wife and need some honest helpfull advice.

thrs other issues...is she in her 40s aswell??..if so you should be telling her to slow down...maybe counseling..i'm hopn the best for you 2..
But def' keep your balls loaded w/test....

[seriousmass]

OK, here is my deal.
40 yr old male, 230 and work out 5 days a week
married 23 years
3 sons 21.,20, 12
TRT therapy since January 08.
200 mg Test C per Week
.5 Arimides EOD

My wife is on Lexipro, and had a Hysterectomy and has No sex life nor does she seem to like dealing with my constant Sexual needs since being on TRT.
I always get the you don't need it and you are doing it just for selfish reasons.
I was in a normal range of natural test but the doc said it would do wonders for me as it has. But my family life is starting to suffer due to my Sexual urges and my wifes sexual urges are not even there anymore since on the Lexipro and the Hysterectomy.
IF I stop even for a couple of months to calm myself down. Will I have any sides or problems with No Post Cycle Therapy?? What can I do??

This is serious so please, no jokes about getting a new wife or girlfriend.
I love my wife and need some honest helpfull advice.

You should get your wife to inject testostrone every couple of weeks. Her sex drive will go through the roof, and will easily keep up with yours. lol.

a lot of women are getting into this type of therapy now, you should consult your doctor about it...

[Pac Man]

damn, that's rough bro.
best of luck to you, hopefully you work this out.

[lovbyts]

I tend to agree with the guys why say SHE needs to stop being so selfish and needs to find options to fix the problem.

My wife/ex we use to talk about things like this. She told me straight up IF she ever could not preform her wifely duties taking care of me it would be fine for me to find other releases as long as I did not make it public and vise versa.

About 3 or 4 years after our divorce we had already gotten together sevral times for play and she started dating a guy and got pretty serious with him but he had ED issued due to Diabetes. She still came to visit me to get serviced. LOL

Personally IF you wife refuses to try to fix things I dont think you should give up your life or quality of life at least consider the alternatives.

[ruffcute]

Listen do all the romantic stuff and see how that goes, but if you want a little boost, I would recommend u look for intrinsa patches, they are for women who have had operations, this may be hard to get her to wear the patch, but an alternative is to get some testogel and rub it on her a little, my fiancee found this out, search for 'testogel for women' in google and ul find a pdf document from porterbook clinic and how they use testogel to help women get more giggy. I think if she refuses checkup for her hormone levels you should slap some of that on her, Oviously stop if u see ANY sides, but its a viable alternative