Issue of Test Cyp?

[keithdolby]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if test cyp. is made with any sort of protein or foreign dna. Also, are eggs ever used in the process? I know most is made from an oil and test powder, but would still like confromation as to weather or not any egg, or or foreign dna or protein is used. Thank You

[zaggahamma]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if test cyp. is made with any sort of protein or foreign dna. Also, are eggs ever used in the process? I know most is made from an oil and test powder, but would still like confromation as to weather or not any egg, or or foreign dna or protein is used. Thank You

interesting question....subscribed...can u please say why u ask?

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[Merc.]

Basically Test is primarily made from soy beans and wild yams .. They are pharmaceutically transformed ( in the lab ) into human bio- identical form ... I dont think you will have a problem .. You are allergic to eggs ( correct ) ???

I dont now much about brewing test so if someone with more knowledge on brewing - please chime in ... I would say if you stick to a FDA approved brand ( something like Watson or UPJohn you should not have any concern )...


Merc.

[zaggahamma]

Basically Test is primarily made from soy beans and wild yams .. They are pharmaceutically transformed ( in the lab ) into human bio- identical form ... I dont think you will have a problem .. You are allergic to eggs ( correct ) ???

I dont now much about brewing test so if someone with more knowledge on brewing - please chime in ... I would say if you stick to a FDA approved brand ( something like Watson or UPJohn you should not have any concern )...


Merc.

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[Merc.]

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[flatscat]

learned something new - did not know that - thanks Merc.

[Merc.]

learned something new - did not know that - thanks Merc.

No prob ...

Heres some info abou it if you wanna check it out ..



Bio-identical HRT

Bio-identical HRT is also referred to as ’natural’ HRT and ’human-identical’ HRT in the literature. A bio-identical steroid hormone is not human in origin but is identical in organic structure and function to human hormones. Bio-identical hormones are derived from a type of plant oil called diosgenin, which is very similar in chemical structure to our endogenous precursor steroid hormone, cholesterol. Diosgenin is extracted from soybeans and wild yams. These crops can abundantly and inexpensively produce the oil, which is also available in several thousand other plants worldwide. Diosgenin is then chemically altered in a lab to exactly match our human bio-identical steroids. Any allergenicity to these plants is also removed during the conversion process.

There are more than 15 endogenous steroid hormones, each with its own metabolites and an enzyme system that converts them from one steroid to another from moment to moment. This is known as the steroid hormone cascade. Any deficiency in this system will cause symptoms that are unique to certain steroids. Another important concept is that we need an appropriate amount of precursor hormones, such as cholesterol and pregnenolone, which are located at the top of the cascade. The enzymes then convert these on down the cascade into the steroids that are essential to our hormonal balance.

The steroid family is classified in five major categories including the estrogens (estradiol, estriol, estrone), progesterone, androgens (DHEA, testosterone, androstenedione), glucocorticoids (cortisol, cortisone) and mineralcorticoids (aldosterone).5,6,11 The human female body produces three estrogens with very specific roles. Estrone (E1) is a proliferative estrogen that comprises about 10% of the total estrogens premenopausally. Estradiol (E2) is a proliferative estrogen and the most potent estrogen premenopausally comprising another 10% to 20% of the total. Estriol (E3) is the very weak non-proliferative estrogen dominant in pregnancy E1 and E3 are made in the body from E2. All estrogen hormones (estrone, estradiol, and estriol) bind to the same receptor sites with different affinity. Estradiol is the most potent and is converted to the weaker estrone, and then to estriol under the influence of progesterone.

BHRT can be compounded to replace any of several types of deficient steroids in amounts individualized to the unique needs of each woman. Compounding pharmacists, who work closely with prescribers, have hundreds of individualized formulations in their databases that are representative of the unique needs of their clients. Compounding pharmacists who are specifically trained comply with specific, well-researched guidelines to produce pure, standardized formulations. These compounding pharmacists obtain pharmaceutical-grade hormones, researched formulas, guidelines and technical support from their professional organization to provide the highest quality product to consumers. As compounded BHRT becomes more popular, prescribers need to familiarize themselves with pharmacists who are members of their professional compounding organization. The International Academy of Compounding Pharmacists (IACP) will refer patients and prescribers to IACP members in their areas.

Over the past few years, a handful of bio-identical hormones have become available among commercially prepared HRT options. Pharmaceutical companies have avoided the restriction on patenting natural substances by patenting the delivery systems of the bio-identical hormones. Allergic skin reactions to the patented glue in the estradiol patches and allergies to the patented peanut oil release mechanism in oral progesterone capsules are examples of limitations with commercial bio-identical preparations



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[zaggahamma]

learned something new - did not know that - thanks Merc.

yeh i know right

[Merc.]

yeh i know right

merc.

[Merc.]

Heres a bit more info ...


What are "natural" versus "synthetic" hormones?

When reading the latest buzzwords about hormone therapy, the use of the terms "natural" and "synthetic" can be very confusing. This is because the word "bioidentical" is often equated to "natural," while being contrasted with "synthetic" and "man-made." These generalizations can be a bit misleading; we'll examine them more closely in order to better understand the differences between different testosterone treatments.

First, the term "natural" is often used to mean something that is found in nature, or something that is not man-made. In the case of testosterone, the "natural" form of the hormone is produced in the glands of the body; its chemical structure is shown above in Figure 1.

Next, let's recall that "bioidentical" testosterone is defined as having the exact same chemical structure as the "natural" testosterone that is created by the body. In this sense, "bioidentical" testosterone matches "natural" testosterone on the molecular level.

If there is any chemical modification to the testosterone molecule (such as adding a side chain or functional group), it no longer fits under the definition of "bioidentical." This is what is often referred to as a "synthetic" hormone-- a substance that has been modified in chemical structure from how it would occur naturally. An example of a "synthetic" hormone would be methyltestosterone (Figure 2, below), which is the testosterone hormone with an added methyl group (CH3) at the c-17 alpha position of the molecule (modified area shown within the red circle).



As illustrated in the case of methyltestosterone, the word "synthetic" is used to indicate a variation of a hormone created in a laboratory that does not chemically match the hormone as naturally made by the body.

It is important to note at this point that all forms of prescription testosterone-- whether they are "bioidentical" or "synthetic"-- are created in laboratories using chemical means. The vast majority of prescription testosterone (cream, gel, injectable, patch, subcutaneous, etc.) is derived from plant sources such as soybeans and yams. Soybeans and yams are natural substances that are put through a chemical synthesis in a laboratory setting to derive the end product of testosterone. Both bioidentical and non-bioidentical testosterone drugs are synthesized in this manner.

In summary, all testosterone drug preparations are man-made, typically from plant-based sources. "Bioidentical" testosterone exactly matches the chemical structure of "natural" testosterone, but is made in a laboratory just like other non-bioidentical forms of testosterone. Even though all forms of testosterone preparations are synthesized in a laboratory setting, the word "synthetic" is usually used to refer to non-bioidentical forms of testosterone.


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[Merc.]

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[zaggahamma]

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[SayIWont21]

i like peanut butter cups on my eggs

[Merc.]

LOL .....




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[THORSZ]

Soy beans and yams??? I would have never guessed......

[Merc.]

Soy beans and yams??? I would have never guessed......

a lot of peeps are like WTF .. when I tell them that it comes from soy beans and yams ...







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[Merc.]

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[bigred42]

I don't think Bioidentical hormones are the same thing. It also looks like it is made for women.

check this out from the mayo clinic.

"There's a lot of interest in bioidentical — or so-called "natural" — hormone therapy for menopause symptoms. However, there's no evidence that bioidentical hormones are safer or more effective than standard hormone replacement therapy.

Bioidentical hormones are custom-mixed formulas containing various hormones that are chemically identical to those naturally made by your body. These prescription and over-the-counter products are marketed as being tailored to a woman's individual hormone needs, typically determined through saliva hormone testing. Manufacturers claim that bioidentical hormones are safer than standard, FDA-approved hormone therapy."

[Merc.]

I don't think Bioidentical hormones are the same thing. It also looks like it is made for women.

check this out from the mayo clinic.

"There's a lot of interest in bioidentical — or so-called "natural" — hormone therapy for menopause symptoms. However, there's no evidence that bioidentical hormones are safer or more effective than standard hormone replacement therapy.

Bioidentical hormones are custom-mixed formulas containing various hormones that are chemically identical to those naturally made by your body. These prescription and over-the-counter products are marketed as being tailored to a woman's individual hormone needs, typically determined through saliva hormone testing. Manufacturers claim that bioidentical hormones are safer than standard, FDA-approved hormone therapy."

Did you read post # 10 ? ^^^^^^^


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