Originally Posted by
Dante Diamond
Most likely your anti-aging doc is prescribing the Prop to get more $$$. I don't know if this is the case, but does prop kick in faster? I don't see the point of having two esters.
What did your E2 test at? Because 1mg daily of Arimidex is HIGH, IMO. It's not as strong as Letro, but still a very strong compound in it's own right.
A lot of people think they are low and most are. However, IMO I would try another approach FIRST. If it doesn't work, you can always start TRT in the future. Why take something the rest of your life if you don't have too? How many of us would rather not have to stick ourselves if we didn't have too?
"Anti-aging" docs will help you, however they honestly are just after $$$. I don't understand why a doctor wouldn't try other methods of getting your natural T to come up. I'm glad that doctors, no matter what kind, are starting to treat this condition. But it has to be controlled still.
First, I would REALLY try to lower BF. Like I said, Diet. Check out the Diet forums and search online for different ideas. Chances are your eating is not very good. Weights 4x a week, Cardio 4x a week. Cut calories to 10 to 12x your bodyweight. Try something similar to that, WITH A GOOD DIET (High Protein, Lower Carbs (Eat Complex only), and Good Fats) and then retest after you've lost some fat.
If it's still low (and assuming E2 is high), try Arimidex (dose it according to how high your E2 is). This could also help free up some T (Usually not much, but some).
If it's still low and you feel the same, then I would try HCG only therapy (May have to take an Aromatase Inhibitor with it, cause it can increase E2 in some). I've seen doctors start to try this therapy to help "kick-start" the testes into producing natural again.
If it's still low, then start your TRT. But I would start low. 200mg a week is on the high end and you may not need as much. Again, anti-aging doctors will prescribe you high. The more you take, the more you buy and the more money they make. Now they will keep you in a healthy range, but it's usually overkill. A buddy of mine was prescribed 400mg a week from his "anti-aging" doc. That's a cycle. But after a couple months, the doc still wanted him to take that dose. His blood results were fine, but his numbers were WAY out of the therapuetic range.
Start lower and work your way up. You may feel great at 100mg a week. If you start higher and work your way down, 180mg is not going to feel as good as 200mg probably will, and so on.
As stated above, I would try to lower BF first. Working out isn't enough. Diet is much more important. I see people at the gym all the time. They work out all the time, however, they still look the same. It's because they aren't eating correctly.
I'm not bashing you or anything, please know that. It just seems like you are compound dependent. You've mentioned Test Cyp, Prop, HCG, Arimidex, HGH, Deca and Clen. Now I know you didn't say you were going to take them all at once, or were you? Either way, when you look at it, that's a lot of stuff.
Good luck man. Sorry for the long-winded post. I just hate to see someone rely completely on medicine to make the feel better. If you had good eating habit and lower bodyfat, and you still felt the same, then I would say go for it.
(Also, please post your complete hormone blood panel - E2, Free T, etc.)
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