21 y/o just started TRT

[awesome1]

jsut started TRT with my Doc @100mg cyp EW.

Do y'all run HCG constantly with your TRT?

How about an AI? (my estradiol was 41 out of 13-54)

[awesome1]

Another question! should I get some sort of serm in case I get gyno even at only 100mg?? sorry for the noob questions I searched but I just want to be really clear on this.

[Vettester]

Oh no, what's going on here? I just got through with the guy who is 18 on the other thread.

[awesome1]

I made a thread about it in the main steroid forum. heres the link http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...67#post5138967

[johncalvin]

21 and on trt?

[pittbulldad]

seems a bit odd that lately we've been seeing alot of younger guys asking questions....

i'm going to throw out a Bravo Sierra.

[awesome1]

seems a bit odd that lately we've been seeing alot of younger guys asking questions....

i'm going to throw out a Bravo Sierra.

I really do not appreciate that. I'm not BSing you.

I'm looking for help guys. No one has even answered my questions: How important are the HCG and AI on TRT?

[pittbulldad]

You need to talk to your doctor.. if you want to have kids eventually you may want to look at HCG /Clomid combo.

[aer_vlad]

Not to hijack, but I'm also 21 and just started TRT. Test cyp. @ 200mg/week. I just finished loading 400mg/week for the first 3 weeks.

I'm kinda upset that I've started/needed TRT. At the same time, I feel 1000x better. I'm less lethargic, have more concentration, and have a better mood. I also have hypothyroidism - been on Synthroid for the past few weeks.

I've never done a cycle, always ate a very healthy diet, exercised regularly... don't know why my hormones are where they are. My libido, weight, strength, and motivation all slowly decreased over the past year and a half. After constantly being cold (low basal body temperature), I went in for blood tests. My testosterone was 38.5 (extremely low). FSH/LH were also very low. TSH was normal, T3/T4 was low. MRI showed no tumors (prolactin normal). Puberty was also normal.

I talked to my Endocrinologist and said that he has a few patients take HCG but most don't. He said if fertility may become an issue, but can always reverse the issue. Second, he said an AI shouldn't be needed and never prescribes it - this is all according to him. I asked about estrogen levels as a concern. He said if testosterone is in within normal ranges, there is no need to worry about estrogen.

I'm starting to experience testicular atrophy. I'll raise the question on my next visit - do most TRT patients here take HCG? Do most take an AI?

[pittbulldad]

do most TRT patients here take HCG? Do most take an AI?

i don't know about most but from what i've seen if you don't use HCG or something similar you will suffer testicular atrophy.. i can certainly tell the difference the first few days after my HCG shot that my boys certainly seem more up to the job than later on down the road..

[awesome1]

Are HCG and clomid available for presciption to males in the US?

[pittbulldad]

yes it is

[casberger]

Well in defense of the guy posting. I was 18 when I found out I had a low test. I didnt actually start on HRT til 24 though. After further investigating the cause of my low T, it turns out I have a cyst on my pituitary gland which is blocking the signal of testosterone to my testes. Surgery is rather dangerous and expensive in that department so I made the deciscion to go on HRT. Fertility is not really a concern for me. For me, the pros of being on HRT definetely outweigh the cons. I feel about 10x better than before.

[Black]

At first instinct, you want to tell the OP to try another option because of his age. Some automatically think that there's no way he's low due to his age. However, it's possible. I experience the same symtoms for over 10 years until I was treated for low/no test production. After years of anti-depressants (that didn't do shit, but make me a zombie) and suffering, I thought it was just "how I was going to be". That it was just me. I wish I could've had those years back like I feel now.

[awesome1]

At first instinct, you want to tell the OP to try another option because of his age. Some automatically think that there's no way he's low due to his age. However, it's possible. I experience the same symtoms for over 10 years until I was treated for low/no test production. After years of anti-depressants (that didn't do shit, but make me a zombie) and suffering, I thought it was just "how I was going to be". That it was just me. I wish I could've had those years back like I feel now.

Thanks for posting that. I have been on anti depressants for a couple years and they have not helped. My first injection was 5 days ago and I am starting to feel a slight rise in energy and overall well being. I guess brining me up towards what most people feel like? lol

[durak]

Thanks for posting that. I have been on anti depressants for a couple years and they have not helped. My first injection was 5 days ago and I am starting to feel a slight rise in energy and overall well being. I guess brining me up towards what most people feel like? lol

I really hope this will help you. Just make sure nothing else is wrong. Be carefull getting off the SSRI's. The withdrawl can be extremely nasty. PM me if you want and I can give you some information.

[aer_vlad]

Did your doctor front load the first few shots?

I was given 800 for the first two weeks. I began to feel much better by the end of the week. Training wise, I immediately noticed I had way more stamina and achieved/maintained a "pump" a lot longer...

[Vettester]

Did your doctor front load the first few shots?

I was given 800 for the first two weeks. I began to feel much better by the end of the week. Training wise, I immediately noticed I had way more stamina and achieved/maintained a "pump" a lot longer...

800mg per week for 2 weeks? Seriously?

[awesome1]

Did your doctor front load the first few shots?

I was given 800 for the first two weeks. I began to feel much better by the end of the week. Training wise, I immediately noticed I had way more stamina and achieved/maintained a "pump" a lot longer...

no hes starting me off on just 100mg to see how I respond. Ive never heard of frontloading with 800mg.

[awesome1]

Im gonna ask my doc about using an AI because my estro was already a bit high (41)

[Alphakhymn]

jsut started TRT with my Doc @100mg cyp EW.

Do y'all run HCG constantly with your TRT?

How about an AI? (my estradiol was 41 out of 13-54)

sup bro, i heard from some guy your body fuked up because u started aas too young. I'm new to all this roid stuff, whats TRT? Do you have to take it for the rest of your life, cos thats what the guy said.. if so, that would suck cuzz.. but im just wondering, i don't think u were too young, i think u may have done something wrong ukno what im sayin? what did u do wrong bro?

I'm just doing my research on consequences cos im planning on starting aas at 18

thanks brah

[durak]

sup bro, i heard from some guy your body fuked up because u started aas too young. I'm new to all this roid stuff, whats TRT? Do you have to take it for the rest of your life, cos thats what the guy said.. if so, that would suck cuzz.. but im just wondering, i don't think u were too young, i think u may have done something wrong ukno what im sayin? what did u do wrong bro?

I'm just doing my research on consequences cos im planning on starting aas at 18

thanks brah

Government schools must be worse than I feared!


god help us all... (a little extra help for this guy)

[Black]

government schools must be worse than i feared!


God help us all... (a little extra help for this guy)

^agreed!

[Black]

sup bro, i heard from some guy your body fuked up because u started aas too young. I'm new to all this roid stuff, whats TRT? Do you have to take it for the rest of your life, cos thats what the guy said.. if so, that would suck cuzz.. but im just wondering, i don't think u were too young, i think u may have done something wrong ukno what im sayin? what did u do wrong bro?

I'm just doing my research on consequences cos im planning on starting aas at 18

thanks brah

Just cause it's low doesn't mean "he messed it up". I've had low test since I was younger and never used any AAS.

Google TRT.

Good to do reserach on steroids , but starting at 18, that's retarded. But's that's another topic.

[awesome1]

sup bro, i heard from some guy your body fuked up because u started aas too young. I'm new to all this roid stuff, whats TRT? Do you have to take it for the rest of your life, cos thats what the guy said.. if so, that would suck cuzz.. but im just wondering, i don't think u were too young, i think u may have done something wrong ukno what im sayin? what did u do wrong bro?

I'm just doing my research on consequences cos im planning on starting aas at 18

thanks brah

I have never taken steroids or prohormones, and Im glad that I havent yet because that probably would have only made my situation worse. I do plan on cycling in the future at some point after I get my TRT sorted out and everything is fully under control. As for consequences, EVEN IF A CYCLE IS DONE PERFECTLY, there is still a risk of long term effects escpecially if you are 18.

[Half-Life 6]

I have never taken steroids or prohormones, and Im glad that I havent yet because that probably would have only made my situation worse. I do plan on cycling in the future at some point after I get my TRT sorted out and everything is fully under control. As for consequences, EVEN IF A CYCLE IS DONE PERFECTLY, there is still a risk of long term effects escpecially if you are 18.

not really..sorry but its just a number, some guys finish growing at 18 believe it or not, many people parrot here, we need more scientists.. (angry flame inevitable on steroid forum how ironic..)

[Black]

not really..sorry but its just a number, some guys finish growing at 18 believe it or not, many people parrot here, we need more scientists.. (angry flame inevitable on steroid forum how ironic..)

Just because you MAY be finished growing at 18 doesn't mean you can't permanently mess up your natural testosterone production. Plus, I'm sure there isn't one 18 year old on here that has gotten medical proof that they are done growing.

Unless it's proven that an 18 year old has little to no testosterone production, then steroids should be overlooked. There hormones should be high enough.

And are you a scientist?

[durak]

Why do we always harp on teenagers doing juice? I did some at 15, 18, 20, 21, 22 and look at me... I am taller than my family and no real problems... oh wait, there is that one potential repercussion... TRT for life...

But honestly, for those looking to get big quick (with minimal effort) or in sports, hormones are not high enough naturally for most... the juice does work, but there is a cost.

[awesome1]

not really..sorry but its just a number, some guys finish growing at 18 believe it or not, many people parrot here, we need more scientists.. (angry flame inevitable on steroid forum how ironic..)

Regardless of age, there is a a risk of long term side effects when you use AAS. Even if someone is finished growing, he could still potentially get shut down even with a pct. An older buddy of mine (who is 31) did a Test only cycle with a full PCT and he has horrible test levels now. I was saying that it is especially more of a risk at 18.

[awesome1]

Update:

it's been 3 1/2 weeks since my first injection. I using 200mg EW and Adex @ .25 E3D. I feel like A completely new man. I want to workout, eat, and fvck like never before. My gains have dramatically increased in just a couple of weeks. I feel very happy. I will get some blood work done in a couple weeks to see where my levels are.

[Bloodsaw]

Update:

it's been 3 1/2 weeks since my first injection. I using 200mg EW and Adex @ .25 E3D. I feel like A completely new man. I want to workout, eat, and fvck like never before. My gains have dramatically increased in just a couple of weeks. I feel very happy. I will get some blood work done in a couple weeks to see where my levels are.

Good to hear bro, hope all goes well

[Vettester]

Update:

it's been 3 1/2 weeks since my first injection. I using 200mg EW and Adex @ .25 E3D. I feel like A completely new man. I want to workout, eat, and fvck like never before. My gains have dramatically increased in just a couple of weeks. I feel very happy. I will get some blood work done in a couple weeks to see where my levels are.

Who could complain with that list of priorities? The 4th item for me is to take my roof off and hit some pavement.

[boatman]

IS it easier for you to put on muscle and strength now that you are on trt my man?

[ds53]

Congrats on having a doctor that cares about you instead of what the insurance companies tell him to do. I have a 26 yr old son that I know is low, no sex drive, low self esteem, barely has any beard, no mustache and we had to take him to the dr at 15 to start puberty. He was 4'9" 78 lbs. The shots made him grow and start puberty, he continued to grow until he was 23. He is now 5'9" tall but very thin. I have been trying to get him to go and get checked but he doesnt seem to care about it. I will follow your post and see how you are progressing and maybe he will listen to me if he finds out he is not the only one.