getting the wife pregnant

[bbrock]

Ok I havn't taken any test but i am assuming that my sperm count is down. My wife is wanting to get pregnant and she has been off birth control for about 6 months. I have been on TRT for about a year and a half. Is their a way to get my sperm count up and still continue my therapy.

[durak]

take some clomid (dose unknown, but low) or look into getting some HMG (not HCG).

[bbrock]

would it be ok to take the clomid and continue with my TRT

[durak]

I don't remember others on this forum doing so.

Otherwise it is up for debate, my opinion is yes. I am about to start some as well. Either 25mg ed or 25mg eod and stopping the HGC.

[bbrock]

Durak let me know how it goes. I wouldn't care about it but I got married a little later than most so i am behind and TRT doesn't help in the baby game.

[forrest_and_trees]

take some clomid (dose unknown, but low) or look into getting some HMG (not HCG).

OK, now I'm confused. All this time I was under the impression that HCG was good to help get your testes working again? Or is that only for normal T production and has nothing to do with sperm count? Does this mean I will need to take something like clomid to raise my sperm count? Is this something that can be done preemptively or do you have to wait until the time comes that you're ready to have kids?

Don't mean to thread jack, but it's definitely related.

[bbrock]

Forrest i am with you. I thought that until a few days ago i read that HCG will not bring back sperm count. can anyone explain

[redz]

HCG does help but I think studies have shown HMG to work even better though I am no expert on HMG.

[durak]

Despite popular belief, HCG does NOT help with fertility. Fertility requires FSH and HCG only stimulates LH.

Clomid stimulates both LH and FSH.

HMG stimulates FSH.

One should first try a good dose of clomid (do not know doses or length).

HMG is the big gun that you can use (if you can afford to).

There is also the potential use of low dose clomid while on TRT to maintain or regain fertility over time.

[Vettester]

Then there was a chink in the armor. As most of you know and probably gather, I'm on HRT (Includes Test, HCG, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Adex, B12).

My HCG protocol is 300iu x 2/wk. Last BW on July 9 revealed LH & FSH to both be 0.2> (Yes, in the dumps).

For the purpose of trying to take my wife off of BC pills to get her natural levels, and possibly start HRT, it was desired that I take a semen analysis to assess the risk of her getting pregnant. Here are my results:

Component Your Value Standard Range
ANALYSIS TIME, SEMEN 1215
SEMEN VOLUME 2.0 >1.9 mL
WBC COUNT, SEMEN <=1 <=1
SPERMATOZOA, NORMAL % 65 >29 %
SPERM COUNT, SEMEN 48 >19 M/mL
SPERMATOZOA, IMMOTILE % 30
SPERMATOZOA, NONPROGRESSIVELY
MOTILE %, SEM FLD 40
SPERM SLOW PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 20
SPERM RAPID PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 10
SPERM, PROGRESSIVELY MOTILE, TOTAL,
SEMEN 29 >59 MILL/SPEC

[bbrock]

Then there was a chink in the armor. As most of you know and probably gather, I'm on HRT (Includes Test, HCG, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Adex, B12).

My HCG protocol is 300iu x 2/wk. Last BW on July 9 revealed LH & FSH to both be 0.2> (Yes, in the dumps).

For the purpose of trying to take my wife off of BC pills to get her natural levels, and possibly start HRT, it was desired that I take a semen analysis to assess the risk of her getting pregnant. Here are my results:

Component Your Value Standard Range
ANALYSIS TIME, SEMEN 1215
SEMEN VOLUME 2.0 >1.9 mL
WBC COUNT, SEMEN <=1 <=1
SPERMATOZOA, NORMAL % 65 >29 %
SPERM COUNT, SEMEN 48 >19 M/mL
SPERMATOZOA, IMMOTILE % 30
SPERMATOZOA, NONPROGRESSIVELY
MOTILE %, SEM FLD 40
SPERM SLOW PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 20
SPERM RAPID PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 10
SPERM, PROGRESSIVELY MOTILE, TOTAL,
SEMEN 29 >59 MILL/SPEC

vette what exactly does this mean.

[durak]

I believe he is a little low but good to go.

[Vettester]

I believe he is a little low but good to go.

Exactly the way I'm looking at it too ^^. I haven't got a review or interpretation from my primary yet (which isn't surprising), so I'll get the skinny from her when she responds.

[stevey_6t9]

Despite popular belief, HCG does NOT help with fertility. Fertility requires FSH and HCG only stimulates LH.

Clomid stimulates both LH and FSH.

HMG stimulates FSH.

One should first try a good dose of clomid (do not know doses or length).

HMG is the big gun that you can use (if you can afford to).

There is also the potential use of low dose clomid while on TRT to maintain or regain fertility over time.

thats true to an extent, but remember hCG which increases LH, boosts intratesticular testosterone which is an important part in spermatogenesis. So it can improve the chances, but yes HMG is a better option.

[jay dee]

don't let your knackers get hot, it destroys the ability to make fresh yoghurt.

[Vettester]

El huevos calientes!