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If I am taking Clomid due to T levels being 400-500 and seeking to get them to 800-900, would taking 25mg per day be sufficient or should I not bother with that and jump straight to 50mg-100mg ?
Secondly, how long do I stay on it, to stimulate natural production, and is it a system which you can stop the clomid once things start rolling again, or must the Clomid be continued to see continued T levels in the 800's ?
Thanks
Why are you trying to raise your test levels? Have you just finished a cycle?
Please see first 20 words of post above, again.
25 a day is fine. Some Drs start at 50 eod. If you go above that you risk negative sides.
It very well might get you to 700-800 everyone is different. I am not sure about the duration/stopping part.
dont forget to taper off when the time comes to stop
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have you done any research on this subject? i don't think the question of not coming off of clomid is a valid one. Therefore I stated than when the time comes to stop taking it you must taper.Quote:
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make sense now? no one knows how it will effect your total t - you will have to determine that through a dosage that is right for you and bw to confirm.
Yes I have. Obviously I haven't found the answer to the questions I posted, which is why i posted them. That is the purpose of this forum. To ask questions. If everyone already knew everything nobody would be posting here. Think about it.Quote:
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How can a question not be a valid question? If I dont know the answer, I have fulfilled the requirements for a "Valid Question".Quote:
i don't think the question of not coming off of clomid is a valid one.
Your phrasing "When the time comes to stop" could also mean "When I decide to stop". It does not imply that everyone should stop taking it after a certain period of time, nor does it contain any of the common sense, basic, necessary information as to why, or for how long it should be taken.Quote:
Therefore I stated when the time comes to stop taking it you must taper.
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flats means every one is different and BLOODWORK will be your friend with your clomid only therapy...very few i've seen/heard run a clomid only therapy
yea, good luck getting help with your arrogant, shitty attitude.
there have been 85 views on this thread, yet only 3 people have replied.
"think about it"...
keep reading. then read some more.
bd
Ok one last time - you can use clomid to jump start your axis kinda like hcg. But in my opinion at your natty t level (500ish) (which a ton of us would love to have so we wouldn't have to jab a freakin pin in our ass every week for the rest of our lives) you may see your levels increase. Or you may not. It all goes back to whether or if you are primary or secondary. IF you have a problem producing t or enough t it will still probably come down to one of these. You don't have to be below 200 to have one of these conditions. I don't think staying on clomid forever is an option - but you may go ahead and try it if you like. BW is the ONLY way to see if your little project is working. Which means you will have to get BW done immediately before you start, and then again in about 30 days. Then come off the clomid for 30 days and get your BW done again.
After that has happened you should know the answers to your questions.
I don't think you have done your research btw.
Oh yea, you need to change your attitude if you want any help from here on out.
Late,
Flats
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Priapism, why don't you share your thoughts about how you think taking testogel for a short run will raise your natural levels. You claim several members here have given you this advise ... I want these members to step forward. When I tried giving you the facts you respond with condescending remarks, like telling me you thought I was supposed to be the resident expert, but it must be some other guy.
You will alienate yourself from this forum completely if you keep going at this pace. Keep in mind on the clomid subject, most of the guys on this forum are looking for ways to induce their levels with exogenous medications, and have pretty much ruled out the desire to restore their natty. I was very up front with you about that on your last PM and mentioned that you should consult some of the PCT experts like Swifto.
If you want to be part of the team, great, we're glad to have you and we will do everything we can to help. Advise will vary, and so will opinions, and we're all going to have our moments where we don't see eye-to-eye. However, the continuous chip on the shoulder thing needs stop.
Vette - This thread is not about the Testogel issue. Its about 2 specific Clomid questions I had. Please respond to my PM's if you want to discuss the testogel issue further.
The question I posed in my first message, is: "Is taking Clomid it a system where you can stop taking it once things start rolling again, or must the Clomid be continued to see continued T levels in the 800's ?"
If anyone wants to answer that question, then great.
As for "being part of the group" and "alienating myself" ... Im not here to have a pissing match or popularity contest. I am here to get health information. I dont need snarky smartass comments from people like Flat Scat when I am just asking honest questions. I'm not interested in the drama or the attitude, and I dont respond well to being spoken to condescendingly. I am a very nice person, and I asked some fair questions. I was met with an attitude and smartass response. I did not instigate that. But I did put him in his place like he deserved. If you want to ingore the chronology of the events, and pretend I was rude out of thin air, then that's fine, but I dont become a "dick" until someone else does first.
I dont expect a helpful response at this point, so I wont be viewing this thread after today. Im sure it will just be more warnings and drama. Not interested in seeing it. I pissed off one of the "cool kids" and now the gang has put a hit out on me. :) If anyone wants to bypass the drama and help with some health information and support - I would appreciate a Private Message because I wont be looking in here again. I have not been rude to anyone who wasn't rude first. I've been participating here for over two years with no problems.
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Wow, and I thought I did try to answer your question - can't make everyone happy I guess. First time for the smartass and dick comments too. I have always tried to help everyone here, and received tons of it myself.
This is a lot like coaching my 6 yr old son's flag football team - you can try to help all 12 kids, but there will always be some who will bitch about the help you give them.
And if that is what you call putting me in my place, well, whatever you say.
You must have tons of experience pissing off the "cool kids".
I wish you all the best Priapism. Let me know if you need anything.