need advice on light blast while on TRT

[bass]

i am about to do my first blast with deca , i am on 160 mgs test cyp ew and .5 mgs adex 3 times a week, it seems to be a good TRT dose so far. i like to get back on 200 mgs ew on test because i felt so much better, maybe after the blast. my questions is what dose do you recommend for a blast?

test cyp, mgs?
deca, mgs?
adex, mgs?
i am assuming PCT is not needed!

i am not looking to do a heavy one for this is my first time, but like to do the lightest effective blast. thanks in advance!

[JD250]

I'm not qualified to tell you anything on this subject but I will say that The-Det-Oak has helped me get a better understanding of Deca .......I'll be watching this one. Why don't you go back to 200mg test ew?

[bass]

the clinic SUGGESTED to lower my dose when i was having problem donating blood to lower my RBC, they prefer 200 per week anyway, so i'll go back to that after the blast. this is maybe stupid but i am tempted to ask my coordinator about a blast! just to see how far they're willing to assist!

[JD250]

PMed you Bass

[zaggahamma]

200 each

[zaggahamma]

unless youve really plateaued with your recent trt gains...

then 300/300

imo...ai stays unless u feel nips talkin to ya

[bass]

thanks JD!

JP, you mean stay with 1/2 mg adex three times a week? (300 T/200 D) is more what i am aiming for! but 300/300 would be nice

[JD250]

There was a thread I started not long ago that discussed Deca a little bit.


It was OAK and JPK that had experience with Deca........man.... my memory is about as bad as my vision anymore.



Here's the thread I was thinking of.....http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...4-I-screwed-up

[bass]

yea i remember that thread, but I'll go over it again tomorrow!

[zaggahamma]

There was a thread I started not long ago that discussed Deca a little bit.


It was OAK and JPK that had experience with Deca........man.... my memory is about as bad as my vision anymore.



Here's the thread I was thinking of.....http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...4-I-screwed-up

yes i revisited that post...

not sure if i emphasized that i took deca in the beginning of my trt i was still seeing gains from test only thats why i ask bass if he's plateaued...the best way i can describe it is my gains were ebbing but the deca made them come back at similar pace...i only ran deca for about 6 weeks...would love to jump on again

best of luck bass..
yes if it were me i wouldnt want to take too much AI unless needed....have you gotten bloodwork after being on current AI protocol to confirm levels?

[zaggahamma]

There was a thread I started not long ago that discussed Deca a little bit.


It was OAK and JPK that had experience with Deca........man.... my memory is about as bad as my vision anymore.



Here's the thread I was thinking of.....http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...4-I-screwed-up

yes i revisited that post...

not sure if i emphasized that i took deca in the beginning of my trt i was still seeing gains from test only thats why i ask bass if he's plateaued...the best way i can describe it is my gains were ebbing but the deca made them come back at similar pace...i only ran deca for about 6 weeks...would love to jump on again

best of luck bass..
yes if it were me i wouldnt want to take too much AI unless needed....have you gotten bloodwork after being on current AI protocol to confirm levels?

guys i also bumped that thread that you mentioned and linked asking det oak what he recommended for joint relief alone

[bass]

yes i revisited that post...
have you gotten bloodwork after being on current AI protocol to confirm levels?

no i haven't, but will do before the blast and report back!

[bass]

Ok guys, i've been experiencing PVC's again just like i did when i first started TRT, so i am thinking its the deca and possibly the elevated RBC and hemoglobin, so i will stop my blast and go back to the 160 mgs test per week until all my hormone levels normalize, and hopefully my PVC's will stop! damn this really sucks!

[bass]

Report,

i never stopped the blast so kept going and now i am on 300/300 test deca , hCG and Glutathione! i had this nagging pain on my outer right shoulder kind of like a dog bite when i move in certain positions, now its going away despite the heavy lifting 4 days on one day rest! i look much leaner and weight still the same, but BF% is down from 21% to 17.8% on the omron monitor! feeling great so far, i will be doing a simple blood work within two weeks just to check on my liver to make sure i am on the right track treating it with Glutathione! i'll keep you posted if something interesting comes up and will post before and after photos when i am done.

[JD250]

Nice bro! How long you gonna do the 300/300 blast? My shoulder feels gooder all the time while on deca , hope you get continued relief from yours as well.

[biggymrat]

Bass,

What kind of diet are you on now? Did you increase calories for the blast or keep them the same?

[bass]

Nice bro! How long you gonna do the 300/300 blast? My shoulder feels gooder all the time while on deca, hope you get continued relief from yours as well.

9 weeks JD! thats all the deca i have!

[bass]

Bass,

What kind of diet are you on now? Did you increase calories for the blast or keep them the same?

low carbs with one cheat day, minimum protein required for muscle growth (1 g per 1 lb of body weight). my goal is to lose as much fat as possible and maintain muscle, but it seems i am gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time, but time will tell! i also do lots of cardio, 7 days a week includes HIIT.

[zaggahamma]

low carbs with one cheat day, minimum protein required for muscle growth (1 g per 1 lb of body weight). my goal is to lose as much fat as possible and maintain muscle, but it seems i am gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time, but time will tell! i also do lots of cardio, 7 days a week includes HIIT.

your getting the best of both worlds i love that deca

[bass]

JP, did leg workout yesterday, almost no pain on my knees! but had them wrapped with bands really tight as i usually do, and was able to go all the way down doing squats! my thighs are bigger and very noticeable, even my wife noticed them! so far so good!

[JD250]

Yesterday was leg day for me too....I actually like leg day, but the day after is a bitch aint it? My ass hurts, my quads hurt, strings hurt, calves hurt.....uugh, it's gonna be worth it.....right?

Good job Bass, it's kinda nice when the wife takes notice of your hard work isn't it?

[bass]

Yesterday was leg day for me too....I actually like leg day, but the day after is a bitch aint it? My ass hurts, my quads hurt, strings hurt, calves hurt.....uugh, it's gonna be worth it.....right?

Good job Bass, it's kinda nice when the wife takes notice of your hard work isn't it?

LOL, this is exactly how i feel today, too much pain! but all good of course, and definitely worth it!

[bass]

not much to report but finally after 3 weeks i finally felt little stronger and less pain on my shoulders doing chest last night! before i maxed out on my forth/last set at 6 reps doing 70 lbs dumbbells, this time i did 10 clean reps with no pain! hoping this will get better as i continue the blast!

[zaggahamma]

not much to report but finally after 3 weeks i finally felt little stronger and less pain on my shoulders doing chest last night! before i maxed out on my forth/last set at 6 reps doing 70 lbs dumbbells, this time i did 10 clean reps with no pain! hoping this will get better as i continue the blast!

4 reps more in a short time...nice..keep strict and watch out with that motion of throwing the db's up to the start..thats what got ME! i had to eliminate db's altogether early on from tendonitis in the elbows....i guess flat bench is easier to get them into position but incline seems a little more difficult cuz your more upright

[arizona32]

Did a blast with:
480 mg. cyp
240 mg. deca
hcg 2x250
adex 2x1 mg
for 12 weeks,
helped my knees which was my main goal. I also got a lot stronger. Strength seemed to drop off after the blast though. Personally I thought it was too much. I didn't like the weight gain, high blood pressure and increased anxiety.
I understand why trt vets stay at the sweet spot which is what I do now. I tried some Winstrol and Anavar for a few weeks at a time and liked that better than the high test. Seemed like it was easier on my body.
I agree with JP try 200 of each at first. Then later on try 300 if you still have the itch. One thing I've learned is that many guys take too much stuff and have too many combinations going on so it's hard to tell what is actually working.
If you move it up a little at a time, you may be surprised at the results you get, plus you'll know what works and what doesn't without having to guess.
Good luck

[arizona32]

....AND it's absolutely imperative that your diet is good. Especially for getting lean, you don't need AAS, you need a good diet. In fact high doses of AAS may mess up your goals of losing fat. 200 of each is plenty to preserve muscle while cutting fat, in fact for some guys that dose will cause water retention and fat gain.
I know many guys at the gym who are on all kinds of AAS, but look like s**t because they don't have the discipline to keep their diet in check.

[bass]

thanks JPK and Arizona! i did start at 200/200 and now doing 300/300, to be honest i haven't noticed much difference probably because of my diet! i reduced my cals but that didn't seem to work, but now increased cals with more carbs and more protein but still very clean diet. i will try to gain during the blast and go on a strict cutting diet once off the blast. I'll keep you all informed!

[bass]

here is a photo i took July 16th, i will take another one after i finish the blast and post so we can compare! this is the best ive seen my arms look along with the shoulders!

[bass]

Latest Blood Work!

[kelkel]

Noticed you hemoglobin is right on the borderline, even though that line depends on the lab. I'm curious if you upped you fluid intake prior to the test or just maintained your norm?

[steroid.com 1]

here is a photo i took July 16th, i will take another one after i finish the blast and post so we can compare! this is the best ive seen my arms look along with the shoulders!

OT - With guns like that you need some killer ink bass!

[zaggahamma]

OT - With guns like that you need some killer ink bass!

leave him alone satan

[bass]

Noticed you hemoglobin is right on the borderline, even though that line depends on the lab. I'm curious if you upped you fluid intake prior to the test or just maintained your norm?

just maintained my normal water intake, 1 gallon a day! i am going to the blood drive tomorrow, i hope they won't reject me!

[bass]

OT - With guns like that you need some killer ink bass!

hmmmm! sorry GD, didn't get what you mean with OT and Ink!

[bass]

BTW, 6 days anastrozole at .5 mg a day is not cutting it, so I'll go .5 ed during the blast! hopefully this will lower it to 30 or less!

[steroid.com 1]

LMAO...luv you guys!

bass, come to South FLA and I'll hook you up with one of the best ink slingers in the country (my avatar)

Those arms deserve a bit of artwork!

[GotNoBlueMilk]

If bass gets a lion, I'll get a bear . . . oh my!

[bass]

LMAO...luv you guys!

bass, come to South FLA and I'll hook you up with one of the best ink slingers in the country (my avatar)

Those arms deserve a bit of artwork!

ahhhh! now i get it, sorry for being green in this area! very nice art work for sure! BTW, i never liked tattoos on muscular bodies, it seems to interfere with the curves/definition! of course each to his own!

[bass]

If bass gets a lion, I'll get a bear . . . oh my!

maybe an old lion for me!

[bass]

update!

i had lo legs before TRT, i must say i am impressed!