getting a doctor to perscribe hcg with trt

[bbrock]

I am wanting to know how many of you guys are having problems with Doctors not wanting to prescribing HCG with TRT therapy. I have been on TRT therapy for about three years and i was wanting to start taking HCG but my Endo said that it is only for bodybuilders and their is no benefit with TRT therapy.

[JohnnyVegas]

I think your doc is incorrect. TRT will shut down your testicles and can cause shrinkage. HCG will help with that. So, if you have testicular atrophy, that should be your evidence that you need hCG. If you have no shrinkage, then you probably don't need it.

This is just my opinion, wait for others to weigh in on this.

[lifter65]

dr crisler recommends hcg , keeping your balls functioning has so many benefits

[steroid.com 1]

Print this out and give it to that quack!

http://www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/HCGupdate.doc

[bbrock]

I sent my doctor the paper about Dr. Crisler. I hope that he is open minded when he reads it.

[bbrock]

I think your doc is incorrect. TRT will shut down your testicles and can cause shrinkage. HCG will help with that. So, if you have testicular atrophy, that should be your evidence that you need hCG. If you have no shrinkage, then you probably don't need it.

This is just my opinion, wait for others to weigh in on this.

Yeah my wife jokes to me about how small my nuts have gotten.

[bbrock]

I just hope that i am not to late and my body can rebound because I have been on TRT for about three years now.......

[steroid.com 1]

I just hope that i am not to late and my body can rebound because I have been on TRT for about three years now.......

How old are you? Younger guys seem to be able to bounce back better then older men.

[38jumper38]

you need a new doctor, trt is a long time use off testosterone , can't go without HCG .

[zaggahamma]

Print this out and give it to that quack!

http://www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/HCGupdate.doc

lol...and then hand him the paper..

yes, alot including myself had had trouble getting that prescribed

[burndawg]

I am having problems as well. I think he is open to it just has never prescribed it before. This article is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you very much. I am going in with some great ammunition now.

[steroid.com 1]

I am having problems as well. I think he is open to it just has never prescribed it before. This article is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you very much. I am going in with some great ammunition now.

Yes you are and Dr. Crisler is a pioneer and on the edge of TRT! Wish he was close to me...

Make sure to let us know how it works out for you.

[lifter65]

Yeah my wife jokes to me about how small my nuts have gotten.

ouch.. lol, you should read more on the allthingsmale forum that dr crisler has written

[rebelstate]

Yeah my wife jokes to me about how small my nuts have gotten.

your nuts barely shrink!lol! actually your nut shack tones up tight giving the appearence of shrinkage, that what test does, it tone your muscles...my endo told me it was a cosmetic thing and if you wanted bigger nuts to look at he would give my hcg .....i declined! lol!...

[zaggahamma]

your nuts barely shrink!lol! actually your nut shack tones up tight giving the appearence of shrinkage, that what test does, it tone your muscles...my endo told me it was a cosmetic thing and if you wanted bigger nuts to look at he would give my hcg.....i declined! lol!...

There r other benefits! G!

[rebelstate]

There r other benefits! G!

if you want to increase your sperm count,and have a better chance at having kids yes...but then even considering trt would not be smart to do if you wanted that!

[kelkel]

I'll be using that paper also. Saved that one a few weeks ago. My endo doesn't seem to want to discuss that or AI's. I'll be going in armed with a lot of paperwork for my fall visit. I'll also be laying much smaller balls on his table and asking him if he'd accept his own shrinking up. If he won't help, I'll ask him to refer me to someone who will. I'll put the "balls" in his court, so to speak.

[zaggahamma]

I'll be using that paper also. Saved that one a few weeks ago. My endo doesn't seem to want to discuss that or AI's. I'll be going in armed with a lot of paperwork for my fall visit. I'll also be laying much smaller balls on his table and asking him if he'd accept his own shrinking up. If he won't help, I'll ask him to refer me to someone who will. I'll put the "balls" in his court, so to speak.

Funny stuff bro

[steroid.com 1]

your nuts barely shrink!lol! actually your nut shack tones up tight giving the appearence of shrinkage, that what test does, it tone your muscles...my endo told me it was a cosmetic thing and if you wanted bigger nuts to look at he would give my hcg.....i declined! lol!...

Dear God! Your endo told you it was a cosmetic thing???

You're in HPTA shut down and by introducing exogenous Test have conducted a self induced organ shut down that being your testicles. Read Crisler's paper on HCG ; your testicles are the single largest source for the precursor hormone Pregnenolone and in HTPA shutdown you ain't producing Pregnenolone or Progesterone for that matter anymore...read what that can do to you!

[brad1986]

In california (and prob the whole u.s) you can get hcg without a perscription. Its a huge industry for weight loss now (****in joke imo) but in my town alone there is like 5 dr's that wil prescribe it for weight loss

[steroid.com 1]

In california (and prob the whole u.s) you can get hcg without a perscription. Its a huge industry for weight loss now (****in joke imo) but in my town alone there is like 5 dr's that wil prescribe it for weight loss

There are websites that will sell it as well. For those guys whose Docs won't help them this is another solid option.

[transdude]

I'm on trt for about 3 months now (100mg of test cyp per week). My Dr. is suggesting hcg now after I told him I wasn't really feeling that great yet. My free test was only 650ish (up from 285).

Am I correct in thinking that the hcg will raise my levels a bit?

[brad1986]

I'm on trt for about 3 months now (100mg of test cyp per week). My Dr. is suggesting hcg now after I told him I wasn't really feeling that great yet. My free test was only 650ish (up from 285).

Am I correct in thinking that the hcg will raise my levels a bit?

You mean you still feel like a women?

[Bullseye Forever]

I am wanting to know how many of you guys are having problems with Doctors not wanting to prescribing HCG with TRT therapy. I have been on TRT therapy for about three years and i was wanting to start taking HCG but my Endo said that it is only for bodybuilders and their is no benefit with TRT therapy.

ive been on tr for 4 years and for life now,my ex-endo never prescribed hcg neither an A.I so i got myself another one,alot of the endos in my are wont presrcibe hcg for some dumb reason,thats why i told my ex endo to F off

[steroid.com 1]

I'm on trt for about 3 months now (100mg of test cyp per week). My Dr. is suggesting hcg now after I told him I wasn't really feeling that great yet. My free test was only 650ish (up from 285).

Am I correct in thinking that the hcg will raise my levels a bit?

Yes, HCG will increase Test serum as well. Read the link by Crisler in this thread.

[transdude]

You mean you still feel like a women?

Never felt like a women, however, my libido was better a few weeks into the trt but fell off a bit (still have morning wood every day). BTW e2 is at around 18 so I'm thinking more test or hcg would help.

[brad1986]

Never felt like a women, however, my libido was better a few weeks into the trt but fell off a bit (still have morning wood every day). BTW e2 is at around 18 so I'm thinking more test or hcg would help.

sorry maybe i took your name the wrong way..."transdude"lol

[transdude]

sorry maybe i took your name the wrong way..."transdude"lol

No, transmission mechanic, sorry to disappoint

[brad1986]

haha Sorry didnt mean to disrespect

[transdude]

It's all good. I use that handle on some automotive forums and it isn't the first time someone alluded to the cross dressing thing

That said, since my Dr. is talking hcg now, I'm guessing I should take him up on it. The only thing that makes me reluctant is that my e actually went down when I started the trt, which is a good thing.

I don't want to throw a wrench into things by having the hcg messing with my e, however, my boys are already looking to be on the decline size wise. Hcg should fix that.

[bbrock]

i would go to a different doc but i get free health care. I already take liquidex for my estrogen..... He did hook me up with a pharmacy that was very inexpensive and he also allowed me to start injecting every week instead of every two weeks. The doc that i had before made me go to his office and get the injections. Now that was a pain.

[rebelstate]

Dear God! Your endo told you it was a cosmetic thing???

You're in HPTA shut down and by introducing exogenous Test have conducted a self induced organ shut down that being your testicles. Read Crisler's paper on HCG ; your testicles are the single largest source for the precursor hormone Pregnenolone and in HTPA shutdown you ain't producing Pregnenolone or Progesterone for that matter anymore...read what that can do to you!

i know im shut down...it doesnt matter ..im 46yrs got two teenage kids...feel great! sex is so good i cant get enough!..i dont need swimers in my my load to feel good, dang all that juice comes from your prosrate anyway,,,,its all about how you feel.....and guess what i feel great!......as long as i give blood every six weeks now to keep my hemo in check and take a little liquidex every week before my shot....you can live without your nuts but if you ever have prostrate problems your sex life will be fuc***d!!!!!

[steroid.com 1]

i know im shut down...it doesnt matter ..im 46yrs got two teenage kids...feel great! sex is so good i cant get enough!..i dont need swimers in my my load to feel good, dang all that juice comes from your prosrate anyway,,,,its all about how you feel.....and guess what i feel great!......as long as i give blood every six weeks now to keep my hemo in check and take a little liquidex every week before my shot....you can live without your nuts but if you ever have prostrate problems your sex life will be fuc***d!!!!!

You said the magic words!

As for me, I personally believe we all need Pregnenolone and Progesterone among other things. Without these men on TRT can feel depressed and experience panic attacks amongst a host of other things...all of which you don't have.

Probably bigger for me is I don't want my balls and sack to look like my 6 year old...I like how my junk looks now and so does my wife

[TGraham]

Mention Fertility!
It worked for me.
I am already on T and arimidex . I told him I intended to have kids (mostly true) and that the T was killing my nutts (mostly true).