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07-11-2011, 12:52 PM #1Junior Member
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Forgot to Include My DHEA...Sorry, There is Just So Many Numbers...
So sorry, but with all these numbers I completely missed this:
DHEA Sulfate, 96 mcg/dL (110-370)
Thanks.....
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07-11-2011, 03:27 PM #2
why would you start a NEW thread instead of correcting the other?
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07-11-2011, 03:50 PM #3Junior Member
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That was my initial intent so as to make it easier and not confuse anyone. I wanted to keep everything together and alert the board that I got my final results, but I could not find an edit or update thread button. It didn't seem like the best option to me, but I wasn't sure what else to do.
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07-11-2011, 06:33 PM #4
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07-11-2011, 06:46 PM #5Junior Member
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07-11-2011, 07:26 PM #7HRT
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Yes, yet another thread...I don't know what one to respond to anymore.
You're numbers look good except E2, that needs to come down or you won't feel any better.
Your DHEA is low as well. Take 50 mg of DHEA and Pregnenolone before you go to bed every night...that will bring it up.
When it does come down I'll bet you Free and Bio T (including Total) go through the roof!
You're going to need HCG soon my friend make no mistake.
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07-12-2011, 09:48 AM #8Junior Member
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Yup, another thread gd, what can I say? I think I'm ADHD that's why I'm all over the place. Also, I couldn't figure out how to edit, but that's no longer a problem thanks to my buddy JP. But seriously, even in light of all my repeated questions and double and triple posting, you have hung in there with me the whole time gd (and others), and I will be forever grateful. I will take a trip to the Vitamin Shoppe today and pick up some DHEA as well as some Pregnenolone (you didn't specify dosage, any idea). Couple of questions though. You mention to take it at night. I thought I saw somewhere that those two supps either alone or in combination (I forget which), can cause stimulation. I already have a hard enough time getting some sleep so would it be ok to take in AM? Also, I thought I saw somewhere that Pregnenolone converts into DHEA. If that is correct, why would I need to take the Preg as well?
You're going to need HCG soon my friend make no mistake. Why is that bud? Please enlighten me if you will. Going to Dr. on Thursday and want to be armed to the teeth with info.....
Thanks for everything gd, you have the patience of a Saint......
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07-12-2011, 10:49 AM #9
I take my DHEA first thing in the morning 50mg. My last DHEA levels were 455 (168-592) ug/dL. I think you would be fine either way. For a while I used to take 50mg in the morning and 50mg at night, but I started to get a lot of acne so we cut out the night dosage and it's been good so far.
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07-12-2011, 11:26 AM #10
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07-12-2011, 11:37 AM #11
Honestly, not really.
I think for me it is difficult to pinpoint what may be causing me to feel good or bad. I never know if it's Test, thyroid, Estrogen, or whatever else it could be. I almost wish I had a constant lab report by my side to help me determine what is going on.
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07-12-2011, 12:13 PM #12Member
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Sort of speaking for gdevine...supplementing testosterone , as we are all doing, eventually causes your HTPA to shut down. Meaning, yout testes will no longer make certain hormones as they are designed to do. Further, your testes will begin to shrink and may even ache. HCG , given twice a week at about 250iu per dose, mimics LH and sends a signal to your testes telling them to get busy. This assumes that you have secondary hypogonadism and not primary. If you are primary (your testes aren't working right), HCG may not do anything for you. That's why some have asked you how much medical diagnosis you have had. Long story..no?
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07-14-2011, 07:57 PM #13HRT
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In HPTA shutdown and even with HCG men still need to supplement with DHEA. I heard Crisler speak on Adrenal Fatigue and TRT and he gives all of his patience 50 mgs of DHEA a day. He likes to split the dosage to two 25 mgs per day; one in the am and one in the pm. In shutdown, and with HCG, there's still not enough DHEA being produced.
There's a lot on the web re DHEA and ton on www.lef.org (just do a search on DHEA) for you guys to learn more and add this important hormone to your supplement protocol.
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07-14-2011, 08:06 PM #14HRT
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Yes, it can. But interestingly enough; your testicles produce the most natural DHEA (converted from Pregnenolone) when we are a sleep and it's when the hormone does its most good for you! If it does not stimulate you, try taking 25 mg before bed and 25 in the morning. If it does, the 25 am and 25 pm (afternoon).
The half life of both hormones are short and the splitting the dose means consistent levels all day long.
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