My Levels seem pretty darn good, but advice please est seems a bit high

[djsingsing]

40 yo male, 6'2" 235, getting in some great gym time and finally getting off the extra weight. 15 lbs to go .
on Andro gel 5 pumps a day...see my other threads, I am pretty good at getting my levels to where I want them with the gel.
talked my GP Dr. into doing hormone level tests, although he thinks all this HRT stuff is an unproven money machine...so he said he would do it, but it wouldnt prove anything. He is a firm believer in TST though. At any rate, here are my levels:

DHEA Sulfate: 279 UG/DL (range 82-455)

IGF-I: 263 NG/ML (there is a whole table in my chart showing age appropriate IGF-I levels, if you want me to post I will, but my age the range shows: 109-307)
It also has a table on value by tanner stage, I have no idea what that means.

Testosterone Total: 855 NG/DL range (241-827) I try and keep it ~800 when I am clicking in the gym...I am right now .

Estradiol: 37 PG/ML (range up to 56)

TSH: 1.61 UIU/ML (range (0.30-5.10)

Free T4: 1.46 NG/DL (range 0.73-1.95)

Free T3: 3.2 PG/ML (range 2.3-4.2)

That is the entire panel they ran...guidance/feedback very much appreciated.

[zaggahamma]

levels look good imo

u sure your doc isnt a firm believer in PCP?

[kelkel]

I gather from your T level your BW must be after application. How many hours after gel application was your test performed if your peaking in the 800's? I'd also be curious to know what your T level is 24 hrs after application, when your in the "trough" so to speak. That way we can see the range in T level throughout the day.

[djsingsing]

I usually split the andro gel application 3 at night and 2 in the AM. I just did the PM application before bed and didnt apply in the AM as I was concerned about it peaking for the BW. My BW was ~9:00 AM so ~12 hours after application that was only 3 pumps.

No tweaks to the est?

I have found that moving the application to the inside of my biceps and forearms help absorption considerably.

would any boost to the GH levels benefit at all?

[zaggahamma]

I usually split the andro gel application 3 at night and 2 in the AM. I just did the PM application before bed and didnt apply in the AM as I was concerned about it peaking for the BW. My BW was ~9:00 AM so ~12 hours after application that was only 3 pumps.

No tweaks to the est?

I have found that moving the application to the inside of my biceps and forearms help absorption considerably.

would any boost to the GH levels benefit at all?

imo, even though your level is good...i still say yes

[kelkel]

1.62% gel or original 1%?

[djsingsing]

Its the 1%, didnt know there was a new bottle out. This is the one I have been prescribed for a few years now. 1.25g 60 metered doses. I know there are at least 70-80 doses though. Hopefully I will continue to get this one as I have the doses to levels figured out.

[kelkel]

I just switched over to the 1.62%. Seems great so far and it's nice to use less volume. Here's the link to the 1.62 insert. Read up and welcome to the forum btw!

http://www.rxabbott.com/pdf/androgel1_62_PI.pdf