Done steroid back in 1998 now recently been put on TRT with androgel gel need advise

[yannick35]

Hi guys been going around here for a while, back in 1998 i did one steroid cycle i had a huge lack of information back then and the guy that gave me the steroid did not tell me about PCT so i finish an 8 week of testosterone enhantate 500mg a week, deca 500mg a week, masteron (don't remember dosage) and Winstrol V i think it was 100mg a week or so.

My medical doctor told me that even with one cycle and no PCT it was enough to screw up my natural testosterone production even after nearly 12 years.

I have been feeling a lack of energy, depression, and anemia for a few years now.

Last year my complete blood test without testosterone found that i was anemic, so my medical doctor gave me iron pills, that sort of fixed the problem, i was also put on a high fat diet with meat, horse, eggs and coconut oil.

Things did not get better even if my anemia was treated, and recent blood test revlead that i was still anemic after i cut out the iron pills.

My medical doctor following my symptoms decided to put me on TRT i would also benefit of the extra testosterone for my prolotherapy treatment and PRP. Testosterone repairs the body and helps ligaments with collagen production.

I have been on androgel for 4 days now and i really feel a difference, lot more energy, less nagging pains in the body and a sense of all well being.

I am on androgel for 4 months, then i have to get a complete blood test again.

I have been told that once you are on TRT you are on for life, but since i am such a newbie on this and to be honest i never planned on doing steroids again in my life i do have some questions.

Does androgel need to be cycled? i also want to know if i would benefit more by taking delatestryl which is an injectible and would provide a higher testosterone level.

I have not been told to take any HGC and after my 4 months of androgel i have not been told to do a PCT? not sure if that is right or not.

Also if i can get some delatestryl prescription how much should i take each week and should it be cycled?

I heard that TRT is very different then regular steroid cycle, its more to replace what is not there anymore, rather then build 20-30 pounds of muscle mass.

Thanks guys

[zaggahamma]

Hi guys been going around here for a while, back in 1998 i did one steroid cycle i had a huge lack of information back then and the guy that gave me the steroid did not tell me about PCT so i finish an 8 week of testosterone enhantate 500mg a week, deca 500mg a week, masteron (don't remember dosage) and Winstrol V i think it was 100mg a week or so.

My medical doctor told me that even with one cycle and no PCT it was enough to screw up my natural testosterone production even after nearly 12 years.

I have been feeling a lack of energy, depression, and anemia for a few years now.

Last year my complete blood test without testosterone found that i was anemic, so my medical doctor gave me iron pills, that sort of fixed the problem, i was also put on a high fat diet with meat, horse, eggs and coconut oil.

Things did not get better even if my anemia was treated, and recent blood test revlead that i was still anemic after i cut out the iron pills.

My medical doctor following my symptoms decided to put me on TRT i would also benefit of the extra testosterone for my prolotherapy treatment and PRP. Testosterone repairs the body and helps ligaments with collagen production.

I have been on androgel for 4 days now and i really feel a difference, lot more energy, less nagging pains in the body and a sense of all well being.

I am on androgel for 4 months, then i have to get a complete blood test again.

I have been told that once you are on TRT you are on for life, but since i am such a newbie on this and to be honest i never planned on doing steroids again in my life i do have some questions.

Does androgel need to be cycled? NO i also want to know if i would benefit more by taking delatestryl which is an injectible and would provide a higher testosterone level. WOULD BE EASIER AND YES DEPENDING ON DOSE EASIER TO ACHIEVE HIGHER LEVEL

I have not been told to take any HGC and after my 4 months of androgel i have not been told to do a PCT? not sure if that is right or not. HCG WILL BENEFIT YOU DURING YOU DURING YOUR LIFETIME TRT(WHICH IS THE ONLY TRT BECAUSE IF YOU DIDNT NEED REPLACEMENT DOSES THEN WHY WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED AS NEEDING REPLACEMENT TEST)

Also if i can get some delatestryl prescription how much should i take each week and should it be cycled? TRT DOSES RANGE FROM 80MG TO 200MG WEEKLY AND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE AS AN AVERAGE

I heard that TRT is very different then regular steroid cycle, its more to replace what is not there anymore, rather then build 20-30 pounds of muscle mass.DEPENDING ON DOSE YOU COULD ADD SOME LBM BUT IF WITHIN A TRUE TRT DOSE NOT 20LBS

Thanks guys

answers in bold

i'd say welcome but saw your surprising amount of posts

[yannick35]

TX

jpkman i am not new here but new to TRT and also steroids.

Not interested in adding any weight, losing yes, i am 215 now if i can get to 190 hard that would be awsome.

I notice that since starting androgel my sugar craving is dead, this thing is getting better and better.

[zaggahamma]

TX

jpkman i am not new here but new to TRT and also steroids.

Not interested in adding any weight, losing yes, i am 215 now if i can get to 190 hard that would be awsome.

I notice that since starting androgel my sugar craving is dead, this thing is getting better and better.

i wished test curbed my sugar cravings and potatoes and rice....

[meathead320]

Hmmmm... How old are you? I mean 12 years is a long time, and you only felt bad the last few?

PCT really just speeds up recovery. Most guys would still recover in time anyway, but by 6 months later, and by that time they would have lost all AAS related gains, hence the importance of PCT.

In your case I cannot see your low test level cause by that one cycle 12 years ago. That seems silly.

Now normal aging on the other hand, that can do it alone.

[yannick35]

I have been feeling fatigue for a longue time, also i injured my lower back in 2002 and develop chronic pain, with bad posture and all the pain got in the neck as well.

I am 39 years old right now but feel that my test level might have been low for a very long time, because the way i feel now is zillions better then i did before starting this TRT. I have a lot more energy, don't feel slippy all the time.

I agree that aging can get to you but i have seen people my age still being amazingly active and very strong in the gym naturally.

I had several failed attemps at starting weight training due to back pain, last year was my longuest i trained and sort of endured the pain. I have ligament laxity upper and lower back and snapping hip joint caused by an idiot chiro that adjusted me 200 time or more in a year and a half, 3 times per week no joke.

The year that i trained all of my strenght was very average, i was far from lifting what i did in my mid 20. And i had issue recuperating from my workouts.

I am off weight lifting for now until my laxity is fixed, that can take close to a year if i am lucky with TRT, that will help the body heal faster, collagen will be formed more rapidly and all my ligaments will be strong again.

I have been told so many things in all theses years of pain, that its not even funny. You know what everything that i have told up to now and even with that old PCT story, i take with a grain of salt. For me at this point main goal be pain free, ultimate goal get back into the gym full time. PRP and TRT can help me do this then be it.

[bass]

Hmmmm... How old are you? I mean 12 years is a long time, and you only felt bad the last few?

PCT really just speeds up recovery. Most guys would still recover in time anyway, but by 6 months later, and by that time they would have lost all AAS related gains, hence the importance of PCT.

In your case I cannot see your low test level cause by that one cycle 12 years ago. That seems silly.

Now normal aging on the other hand, that can do it alone.

yes, one cycle without PCT can screw you up for life! of course its different for each individual but most likely it will shut you down if no proper PCT was done. thats why they say TRT is for life, once you start there is no going back! even if you stop and do PCT you will never go back to where you were!

[bass]

Hi guys been going around here for a while, back in 1998 i did one steroid cycle i had a huge lack of information back then and the guy that gave me the steroid did not tell me about PCT so i finish an 8 week of testosterone enhantate 500mg a week, deca 500mg a week, masteron (don't remember dosage) and Winstrol V i think it was 100mg a week or so.

My medical doctor told me that even with one cycle and no PCT it was enough to screw up my natural testosterone production even after nearly 12 years.

I have been feeling a lack of energy, depression, and anemia for a few years now.

Last year my complete blood test without testosterone found that i was anemic, so my medical doctor gave me iron pills, that sort of fixed the problem, i was also put on a high fat diet with meat, horse, eggs and coconut oil.

Things did not get better even if my anemia was treated, and recent blood test revlead that i was still anemic after i cut out the iron pills.

My medical doctor following my symptoms decided to put me on TRT i would also benefit of the extra testosterone for my prolotherapy treatment and PRP. Testosterone repairs the body and helps ligaments with collagen production.

I have been on androgel for 4 days now and i really feel a difference, lot more energy, less nagging pains in the body and a sense of all well being.

I am on androgel for 4 months, then i have to get a complete blood test again.

I have been told that once you are on TRT you are on for life, but since i am such a newbie on this and to be honest i never planned on doing steroids again in my life i do have some questions.

Does androgel need to be cycled? i also want to know if i would benefit more by taking delatestryl which is an injectible and would provide a higher testosterone level.

I have not been told to take any HGC and after my 4 months of androgel i have not been told to do a PCT? not sure if that is right or not.

Also if i can get some delatestryl prescription how much should i take each week and should it be cycled?

I heard that TRT is very different then regular steroid cycle, its more to replace what is not there anymore, rather then build 20-30 pounds of muscle mass.

Thanks guys

4 days is too soon to notice anything, but one thing for sure, you will producer plenty of iron and thats probably whats making you feel a little better.

[yannick35]

4 days is too soon to notice anything, but one thing for sure, you will producer plenty of iron and thats probably whats making you feel a little better.

Thanks bass great info, my medical doctor decided to put me on TRT due to my anemia that was not resolved taking iron pills (well partially resolve if you want because a few months after stopping the iron pills de anemia came back)

You guys convinced me i am going to get on the injectables, Delatestryl i am sure that i will get better results faster with this then the gel.