Screw this i cannot let this go

[yannick35]

After a lot of thinking i decided to fill in a complain on my medical doctor, and have him investigate but the medical community.

I am done with this guy for good but i can't stop thinking of other people he is going to screw up in the future not knowing what he is doing.

I guess that deep down inside i feel i am doing the good thing.

[spywizard]

that's fine, it's one reason it's called practicing medicine vs curing people..

[HRTstudent]

What did he do?

You have a right to protect the public as well. That's why they have these medical boards in every single state.

Now... if he just pissed you off cause he wouldn't let you use 500mg a week then we have a different story lol. But i am just joking about that one, I know you didn't want that!

[Times Roman]

once a complaint is filed, it stays on record. it is noticeable. i've complained before about my doc. kaiser. more people should do it. these blokes do make mistakes. if your doc fukks up, complain!!! YOU SURE AS SHIIT WOULD IF IT WERE YOUR CAR MECHANIC!!!

[yannick35]

What did he do?

You have a right to protect the public as well. That's why they have these medical boards in every single state.

Now... if he just pissed you off cause he wouldn't let you use 500mg a week then we have a different story lol. But i am just joking about that one, I know you didn't want that!

God please read my other post i really don't feel like writting this again, he put me on TRT without blood test, he said that from my symptoms thats what i had. 200mg of T each week no AI, i gained 35 pounds of fat and water, and more gyno. I want other patient to avoid this, and a tone more false diagnostics and more, he is a fruit cake.

I just posted the letter in the mail i should receive a phone call next week.

[HRTstudent]

I remember your story a bit... it wasn't good.

I didn't know he didn't even take blood work though, just wow. I would feel very justified filing a complaint in that case. Especially if now you have gyno that can only be removed via surgery.

What a waste of medical resources this "doctor" sounds like.

[Hazard]

200mg's of testosterone doesn't make you gain 30lbs of fat. Testosterone has been shown to actually facilitate fatloss. I can see the gyno issue..... maybe some water retention..... but 30lbs....? Something else is askew here.....

~Haz~

[bass]

200mg's of testosterone doesn't make you gain 30lbs of fat. Testosterone has been shown to actually facilitate fatloss. I can see the gyno issue..... maybe some water retention..... but 30lbs....? Something else is askew here.....

~Haz~

he was on allot of otter drugs, deca , HGH and others, can't remember all, i also believe he was not on AI!

[steroid.com 1]

God please read my other post i really don't feel like writting this again, he put me on TRT without blood test, he said that from my symptoms thats what i had. 200mg of T each week no AI, i gained 35 pounds of fat and water, and more gyno. I want other patient to avoid this, and a tone more false diagnostics and more, he is a fruit cake.

I just posted the letter in the mail i should receive a phone call next week.

200mg of Testosterone and no BW is malpractice in my book.

To put things into perspective, Crisler and Shippen are now starting out men on 60mg and 80mg per week and getting great results with men stating they feel much better for the most part compared to higher starting levels.

I agree; he's going to, or already has, hurt someone.

You're doing the right thing...

[SEOINAGE]

200mg of Testosterone and no BW is malpractice in my book.

To put things into perspective, Crisler and Shippen are now starting out men on 60mg and 80mg per week and getting great results with men stating they feel much better for the most part compared to higher starting levels.

I agree; he's going to, or already has, hurt someone.

You're doing the right thing...

Wow, I could understand if someone was extremely low that 60 mg would make them feel better. I just hope they don't make people who that doesn't work for sit on it for an extended period of time. 4 weeks of 100 mg a week drove me up the wall crazy. I would be surprised if that was a single 60 mg dose, would imagine its spread through the week.

Anyways, someone needs to hold these doctors accountable. My previous one sucked but I don't think he did anything I could really officially go against him on.

[yannick35]

I remember your story a bit... it wasn't good.

I didn't know he didn't even take blood work though, just wow. I would feel very justified filing a complaint in that case. Especially if now you have gyno that can only be removed via surgery.

What a waste of medical resources this "doctor" sounds like.

He used me like a lab rat, he has a new pain clinic and was looking into recruiting a team, so they could all be in the same clinic, like chiroprators, massage therapist, bowen etc. This is how i met the current chiro that give me my prolotherapy treatments. But the worst is that he knew what he had to do to treat me but he never did, he wasted time, sent me for useless testing.

He had a blood test but it was dated from the year before, my T level at that time was 700. Which everyone knows by now is normal range. He sent me for some more blood test in September of this year, but when i saw him on October 17th we had not received that testosterone test yet, he told me that this test is long when you go at the public hospital. He told me that day that he has been giving presc for testosterone to people for 15 years and that from my symptoms he had low T. The only problem is that i had muscle spams yes and fatigue but that could have been due to lack of activity.

When we finally receive the testosterone test believe it or not on Feb 17 of this year (i kind of stop seeing him for a while) my T levels where at 640. I should never have been put on T in the first place. Worst is that he told me i should stay on at 100mg per week and try to stay at 900.

I did not get gyno, but water retention, gaining 4 inches on the waist, all that useless fat and water weight. If there is one thing about medical doctors is that they try to keep there patient has close has possible to there normal weight. Anyways i mailed the letter this after noon.

[yannick35]

he was on allot of otter drugs, deca, HGH and others, can't remember all, i also believe he was not on AI!

small dose of deca that i was told did not have time to kick in so its all T from what i have been told, and no i was never given an AI.

Deca usually take 6 weeks to kick in, i started T on October 17th, i added deca to repair my body in De***ber 20th, by that time i had gained most of the weight.

[Vettester]

OK, let's roll the tape back a few months ...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ater-retention

Yannick, this isn't to rub your nose in it, but the thread above was one of many where the members here, including myself, told you to STOP! You were calling this a cycle, taking drugs from a trainer, and disregarding advise, like dumping the masteron as detailed in the provided thread.

Anyone on here can figure out if labs should be taken or not. When do you start taking responsibility for your own actions? When do you stop and say, "Hey, I need labs, I'll go to privatelabsmd.com like all the other guys and take it from there"?

You're playing the ultimate victim here. You want advise, here you go ... For the last time, STOP all of it!! Stop it now!!! These T3/Albuterol notions, stop em!! Stop everything and go get your BW. Run a full set of labs. Post em up and we will make respective comments. In the meantime, diet, diet, diet, cardio, cardio, cardio ... Nothing else. Get with a good, reputable doctor and only go with the bare minimum amount of compound of whatever is needed.

Lastly, start a NEW THREAD (Yes, I'm actually advising a new thread from you here) ... However, make it your primary go-to thread for this forum ... Dunno, call it something like "Yannicks New Lease on Life". Keep your updates, progress, lab results, therapies, etc... all in that thread. Like you mentioned above, you didn't want to have to rewrite all of the information again. Your new, exclusive thread will have everything for everyone to see, nobody will have to go looking for threads. Put the past behind you, start a new day (and thread), be objective and set your sights on achieving wellness.

[yannick35]

200mg of Testosterone and no BW is malpractice in my book.

To put things into perspective, Crisler and Shippen are now starting out men on 60mg and 80mg per week and getting great results with men stating they feel much better for the most part compared to higher starting levels.

I agree; he's going to, or already has, hurt someone.

You're doing the right thing...

Well i should have been put on 100mg per week for starters, and he should have monitored me better then he did. But he told me that i was big and that i needed 200mg.

[yannick35]

OK, let's roll the tape back a few months ...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ater-retention

Yannick, this isn't to rub your nose in it, but the thread above was one of many where the members here, including myself, told you to STOP! You were calling this a cycle, taking drugs from a trainer, and disregarding advise, like dumping the masteron as detailed in the provided thread.

Anyone on here can figure out if labs should be taken or not. When do you start taking responsibility for your own actions? When do you stop and say, "Hey, I need labs, I'll go to privatelabsmd.com like all the other guys and take it from there"?

You're playing the ultimate victim here. You want advise, here you go ... For the last time, STOP all of it!! Stop it now!!! These T3/Albuterol notions, stop em!! Stop everything and go get your BW. Run a full set of labs. Post em up and we will make respective comments. In the meantime, diet, diet, diet, cardio, cardio, cardio ... Nothing else. Get with a good, reputable doctor and only go with the bare minimum amount of compound of whatever is needed.

Lastly, start a NEW THREAD (Yes, I'm actually advising a new thread from you here) ... However, make it your primary go-to thread for this forum ... Dunno, call it something like "Yannicks New Lease on Life". Keep your updates, progress, lab results, therapies, etc... all in that thread. Like you mentioned above, you didn't want to have to rewrite all of the information again. Your new, exclusive thread will have everything for everyone to see, nobody will have to go looking for threads. Put the past behind you, start a new day (and thread), be objective and set your sights on achieving wellness.

Well i am soon to start PCT with HCG , you guys need to understand that i also used steroids to repair my body, and from what i saw they worked great. I am not playing victim far from it, my main goal was to get my life back and fix my body one sense for all.

By the end of the month i am no longer on TRT, i will do a proper PCT, i have a few prolo treatment left, and then get blood work, with my PCT if i can get my naturel T level up to 700 again then good.

[Vettester]

Well i am soon to start PCT with HCG , you guys need to understand that i also used steroids to repair my body, and from what i saw they worked great. I am not playing victim far from it, my main goal was to get my life back and fix my body one sense for all.

By the end of the month i am no longer on TRT, i will do a proper PCT, i have a few prolo treatment left, and then get blood work, with my PCT if i can get my naturel T level up to 700 again then good.

That's great ... Then stop blaming the doctor for the 200mg prescription. My doctor prescribes me 250mg/wk, yet I only take 120mg/wk ... Should I file a complaint against my clinic? Since day 1, you've had the expertise of this board to help you make informative decisions.

[bass]

me too, i am prescribed 200 mgs but only take 120mgs.

[Hackamaniac]

I have a friend that takes 200mgs a week
He says he feels fine and that is withoug hcg or an ai
So everyone is different

Yannick, not a flame, but you change your mind alot..
So why not think things through and not just try every new fad??

I hope things get straightened out for you, I know being in pain is miserable, with you the best of luck!

[PetrX]

After a lot of thinking i decided to fill in a complain on my medical doctor, and have him investigate but the medical community.

I am done with this guy for good but i can't stop thinking of other people he is going to screw up in the future not knowing what he is doing.

I guess that deep down inside i feel i am doing the good thing.

Good job.. I got a dr fired at the west la va hospital because he would let his ego get in the way of helping people. I heard alot of complaints about him, so I scheduled an exam with him and my tests showed something wrong but since I pointed it out, he refused to do anything about it and said he was the Dr and he knew better.. Little did he know about what and where Im studying and that I also work with a few of the Directors at that hospital.. So I filled a complain and talked to the director, the director brought in to explain, apparently he had more complaints in his file, 2 weeks later he was gone.. After he was gone, the nurses were so relieved and everyone acknowledged how he was there pretty much to pick up a paycheck and didnt care much if any for the patients. Point is, there are a lot of drs like this and patients instead of helping to put an end to them, just bitch and move on which allows the next patient to get screwed. People should do the right thing, and if they ever encounter a situation where their dr is not doing their job, make sure you let the hospital know, believe me they will look into it and take action.

[600@50]

You may have other issues going on.

I have been on 200 mgs a week of test e with no AI for several years and I have no complaints. Muscle mass increase, decreased fat and great libido. My doc does bw but has always said it was "high normal". He knows I lift so he's ok with what I'm doing. However I probably need to go get my own bw done.
A guy at work just went to his endo and was diagnosed as having low T. They put him on 150mgs test enan every week and a half. After 3 months he went in to have bw.......his T was even lower, almost nothing. He felt bad and was putting on weight. Just wanted to sleep. He had an MRI on his head suspecting a pit tumor. That was negative. He has more tests scheduled to see why the T dropped after his shots. He's got something going on and they are trying to find out what it is.

I'm not standing up for your doc. Trust me I know there are some quacks out there. What I am saying is if you are not getting the care and results you expect...go to someone else. The doc works for you. He may be trying to practice beyond his knowledge level OR you may have something else going on that needs to be fixed.

Vetteman makes a good point. Go get your own bw and use this forum to help you. There is a lot of knowledge available here so use it. Post your bw and you will get some help.

[ecdysone]

To put things into perspective, Crisler and Shippen are now starting out men on 60mg and 80mg per week and getting great results with men stating they feel much better for the most part compared to higher starting levels.

Finally: a real jewel in all the i-net noise.

Any chance you could split this out in a coherent thread, because I'd be genuinely interested.

[yannick35]

You guys been put on 200mg after you got blood tested and they found out you had low T. You where not put on TRT on the spot assuming you where.

This is where my point is, and why this medical doctor is a danger to is patience. If my T level was in the 260 or 320 or so i might have needed that 200mg per week, but since it was at 640 its another story.

Adding the AI is also very important.

For the record i felt amazing the first 3 weeks, my energy went threw the roof, great sex and more. But after my body started aromatizing the T into estrogen all broke loose.

[pugster]

You guys been put on 200mg after you got blood tested and they found out you had low T. You where not put on TRT on the spot assuming you where.

This is where my point is, and why this medical doctor is a danger to is patience. If my T level was in the 260 or 320 or so i might have needed that 200mg per week, but since it was at 640 its another story.

Adding the AI is also very important.

For the record i felt amazing the first 3 weeks, my energy went threw the roof, great sex and more. But after my body started aromatizing the T into estrogen all broke loose.

and that should have been the pointer..... if you have excess estrogen you are using too much testosterone , i and many others take no A.I , im not gettting any problems
as ppl have already said i'd say theres some blame on both sides , the doc obviously doesnt have a clue and on the other side you have not educated yourself on what is supposed to be happening (if you had you should have argued at the start of treatment) , without looking back on old threads aint you the guy that was drinking bleach aswell thinking it would do him good??.
step back take a deep breath and take a long look at your own old posts to see what you have been saying and have done to date.

[Vettester]

without looking back on old threads aint you the guy that was drinking bleach aswell thinking it would do him good??.

WTF?? I don't remember ever seeing that ... No way anyone would ever drink bleach, that can't be right, or is it?

[jamotech]

WTF?? I don't remember ever seeing that ... No way anyone would ever drink bleach, that can't be right, or is it?

I guess it depends on how much

I was surprised to hear that its common with an RV drinking water system, to add 1/4 cup of bleach. It sanitizes the water but its so diluted its not harmful.

[Vettester]

OK, I'll go with "x" amount being alright if it's highly diluted, but is that what the OP was suggested of doing, or was he drinking it straight up? This stuff just gets more unusual everyday! LOL

[Hackamaniac]

OK, I'll go with "x" amount being alright if it's highly diluted, but is that what the OP was suggested of doing, or was he drinking it straight up? This stuff just gets more unusual everyday! LOL

It was hydrogen peroxide i'm pretty sure....

[jamotech]

I think he was injecting the hydrogen peroxide in his hip?

[jamotech]

is that what the OP was suggested of doing, or was he drinking it straight up?

dont know, I just thought id side track the thread a bit

[bermich]

200mg's of testosterone doesn't make you gain 30lbs of fat. Testosterone has been shown to actually facilitate fatloss. I can see the gyno issue..... maybe some water retention..... but 30lbs....? Something else is askew here.....

~Haz~

Thats what I was thinking. 35lbs water and fat? Is that even possible on Test? I take test and I gain muscle just looking at weights.
Did you know he gave you a script without running blood work?

[keep fightin]

gotta be the hydrogen peroxide, I believe I read that injecting that into the hip causes water retention!

[pugster]

yup that was it, hydrogen peroxide (chemical name for bleach afaik) , good if you want blond hair , not sure about injesting it tho :P

*this is the thread i was talking about >

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e-%28update%29

[yannick35]

This is my last update, i am leaving the board for a while now, might not come back who knows. I mailed the letter Friday exposing the practice of my medical doctor. I will surely get a call back this week from the medical board. I could have sued him has well but i decided not too.

Ha H202 food grade peroxide, one of my friend who works in a life extension clinic told me it was gold, turned out it was not. That is all i can say, some studies on the internet say positive things about others don't. It is highly corosif and will kill the intestinal flora and more. Mistakes what can i say no one is perfect.

At least prolotherapy i nailed it good. See ya everyone til next time maybe.

[GFA]

Good luck yannick. Hopefully with the knowledge you have now, you wont rush into treatments without reason/bloodwork.

You have control over your health and you only get one body so take care of it.

[BigBadWolf]

This is my last update, i am leaving the board for a while now, might not come back who knows.

Best post by farrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

[fit2bOld]

I could never keep up with this guy everyday something new and what was that whole hydrogen peroxide thing??

[MickeyKnox]

I could never keep up with this guy everyday something new and what was that whole hydrogen peroxide thing??

i think he said he was injecting javex into his azzhole..

[Bonaparte]

yup that was it, hydrogen peroxide (chemical name for bleach afaik) , good if you want blond hair , not sure about injesting it tho :P

I know this is a bit dated, but:
Clorox bleach (the stuff you do your white laundry with) is sodium hypochlorite (a form of chlorine), not hydrogen peroxide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Chlorine

[pugster]

ok then i'll change my answer , hydrogen peroxide is a form of bleach , whether a form or the stuff you do the laundry with doesnt matter (i just said bleach,i never said anything about doing the laundry with it) - i still wouldnt drink the stuff

[HealthyMan]

Not to stir up anything but this may be a case of your typical 'troll'. One who posts on forums to gain attention for no reason at all.