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    Panicking.. lowered libido after Triazole, DAA, L-Dopa and Jack3d

    About 2 months ago I started a Triazole/DAA cycle, during which time I was also using Jack3d. A few weeks into the cycle I began to feel quite depressed, so I got some L-Dopa to cope with this. It might have helped a little but I didn't notice much. A few days after I started using L-Dopa, I got an eye twitch that was quite persistent. I completed my Triazole/DAA cycle after 4 weeks, despite feeling down earlier in the cycle. The following week after the Triazole/DAA cycle I started to feel quite depressed and my eye twitch continued. My libido also seemed lower than usual. I decided to stop everything bar protein powder and my eye twitch gradually started to subside, but my libido at least FEELS lower now, a month or so after the cycle.

    I might just be paranoid, as I can get it up and whatnot without a problem, it's just that I don't have the urge to do it as often and usually I'm forcing myself to do it to see if I can still get it up. My eye twitch is very occasional now, but does happen from time to time. I'm not sure if there is actually something wrong with me, or if I'm just being paranoid. I have started lowering my calorie intake after 9 months of bulking though, and I do find myself hungry without doing much about it. Even on the days I do decide to just eat heavy to see if it has any effect though, my libido doesn't seem any higher. Is a damaged libido even possible with these substances? I'm almost sure my libido was higher before I took any of it, but I think this might be because I'm now forcing myself to do it perhaps before my body wants me to. I know it was more frequent before though. Is Triazole definitely all herbal and natural? Is there any possibility of damage with the other stuff? I'm extremely anxious about all of this now. I will go and get a blood test, but the thought of it is freaking me out as I don't want to find it's destroyed my test levels. I've lost a little bit of weight in the last month too, if my scales are correct then about 3-4KG. A lot, I know. I've lost strength in my chest area too.

    Has anyone had a similar experience with any of these things? If my testosterone is reduced, will it return to normal on its own? If so, how long would it normally take? It's been about a month now and I've probably noticed a little improvement, but it's still not quite there. I don't really want to be forcing more crap in my system again.

    Thanks for reading, Mike

    Edit* I'm 20 years old
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    I personally wouldn't touch any pre workout compound.

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    Jackd has an amphetamine derivative compound from the geranium plant. When u add in all the other stuff u were taking you r a walking pharmacy. I'm also not a big fan of preworkout drinks they all have some sort of stimulant.

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    I know of a guy who had to taken to the emergency room taking that Jack shit...bad anxiety and heart problems.

    Some pre-work drinks are fine but you need to know what you're taking.

    I love NO-Explode by BSN; the only stimulant is caffeine equivalent to about 2 cups of coffee per workout...and I get super pumps and vascularity.

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    Whenever I read the words "proprietary blend" on the label......I run far away. I've used NO xplode too, the taste and bloat was just too much after a while.

    I eat a bowl of oatmeal 30 mins before I start the workout along with a couple cups of coffee, works every time.


    Can't prove it but I know a few people who have had serious health issues that they link to pre workout drinks.....jack3ed is at the top of the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    Whenever I read the words "proprietary blend" on the label......I run far away. I've used NO xplode too, the taste and bloat was just too much after a while.

    I eat a bowl of oatmeal 30 mins before I start the workout along with a couple cups of coffee, works every time.


    Can't prove it but I know a few people who have had serious health issues that they link to pre workout drinks.....jack3ed is at the top of the list.
    Taste is fine with me...but bloat? Never seen anything like that. What would you equate that to JD?

    Love the oat meal and coffee...any toast with that

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    jesus, why are you takig so much stuff at such a young age?? , L-Dopa is a drug for parkinsons and only affects the dopamine receptors , it can also cause Dyskinesia (involuntary muscle twitches) , once you have Dyskinesia thats it, its non reversable.
    there are many other receptors involves with depression (mainly serotonin and noradrenalin) , you are taking the wrong drug for depression

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    jesus, why are you takig so much stuff at such a young age?? , L-Dopa is a drug for parkinsons and only affects the dopamine receptors , it can also cause Dyskinesia (involuntary muscle twitches) , once you have Dyskinesia thats it, its non reversable.
    there are many other receptors involves with depression (mainly serotonin and noradrenalin) , you are taking the wrong drug for depression
    I agree. I'm assuming because your posting on the trt forum that your on trt. I've seen people here adding too much stuff and having horrible results. Go back to your basic trt protocol and start over clean. That's what I would do anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Taste is fine with me...but bloat? Never seen anything like that. What would you equate that to JD?

    Love the oat meal and coffee...any toast with that
    Bloat may not be the right word but that stuff makes me belch like crazy during my workout, like nonstop. Probably just me, the taste just got old after a while too. I found other less gassy ways to increase N.O.

    No toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster
    jesus, why are you takig so much stuff at such a young age?? , L-Dopa is a drug for parkinsons and only affects the dopamine receptors , it can also cause Dyskinesia (involuntary muscle twitches) , once you have Dyskinesia thats it, its non reversable.
    there are many other receptors involves with depression (mainly serotonin and noradrenalin) , you are taking the wrong drug for depression
    I was thinking the same thing. U are a walking pharmacy. Do some research about what u are taking. At 22 u only need good weights nutrition and some motivation. I remember seeing psych patients with dyskinesia and it's not pretty.

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    OTC test boosters, for the most part, almost never produce the positive results they promise.

    But you never have to look more than 3 seconds on any forum to find a plethora of adverse effects.

    At 22 your hormones aren't going to hold you back anywhere close to what your diet or consistency will match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    OTC test boosters, for the most part, almost never produce the positive results they promise.

    But you never have to look more than 3 seconds on any forum to find a plethora of adverse effects.

    At 22 your hormones aren't going to hold you back anywhere close to what your diet or consistency will match.

    ^^Exactly^^

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    Thanks for the replies. I'm not on TRT but you say that my testosterone levels should be fine at my age, but what if they're down now? What should I do now? Just wait it out?

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    Only bloodwork can tell.

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