Maximus hrt

[namvet]

has anyone ever heard of MAXIMUS HRt , i think there out of Fl., and if share your experenice, thanks

[ecdysone]

I used them in the past and they were very easy to get along with. They would approve almost any TRT therapy although the drugs and ancillaries were expensive.

Service was a little spotty, but overall I had a good experience.

These days they are in some kind of upheaval because of the rule that all States require face-to-face Doc contact when scheduled drugs are prescribed (they don't require this) and they must have run afoul of some enfor***ent authority.

Their founder seems to be moving towards the sidelines, so it's hard to know what will happen when the dust settles.

Overall, I thought they fit a nice niche in the TRT biz.

[JohnnyVegas]

^^^^ Agree with above. They have a lot of bodybuilding clients that seem to be happy with them. I have wondered about the face-to-face problem.

[jamotech]

I am happy with them so far, although not a body builder The face to face thing has concerned me also, I guess we'll eventually find out if theres still a way around it. Hopefully

[ecdysone]

I am happy with them so far, although not a body builder The face to face thing has concerned me also, I guess we'll eventually find out if theres still a way around it. Hopefully

Some more recent evidence has indicated that its founder has been recently arrested for insurance fraud amongst other charges. Whether the operation will continue is anyone's guess.

But like I said, I had no issues with them.

[brazey]

The founder made a statement about a week ago that he has (for now) passed the day-to-day business duties off to his partner while he is traveling across the country developing relationships with other docs in order to address the face time issue. I haven't used him but I know most of his clients are happy campers.

[Vettester]

Some more recent evidence has indicated that its founder has been recently arrested for insurance fraud amongst other charges. Whether the operation will continue is anyone's guess.

I heard the same thing ... Didn't know if it was just a rumor though.

[Script]

I use them. No face to face necessary. Yet. They are the cheapest of all the clinics and you get what you want/need. No BS.
But, you better take an active role in your TRT. That means blood tests, blood donations, etc. let's face it, it's extremely hard to find a doc that will prescribe test, anastrozole, and hcg. There's a misconception that a doctor will give you more personal attention. That isn't always the case. They have hundreds of patients and aren't always up to date on the latest protocols. If you can't find a physician in your network that knows his shit, then I would recommend Maximus, and learn as much as possible about TRT. I don't post here often, but I'm always lurking, reading, and learning. This board is the best for information on real TRT and not a cover for legal steroid use.

That's my 2cents

[bass]

my clinic hasn't asked me to do face to face but they are expensive, so I'll try this one and compare.

[namvet]

are they filling there orders on time?, being there having this trouble ,..anyone getting ripped off?

[ecdysone]

I heard the same thing ... Didn't know if it was just a rumor though.

There's that 'other' website that has 'meso' in its name which has done an exhaustive amount of research to pretty much back up the rumors.

But, and to answer namvet's question, "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!"

Those of us who have been around understand the nuances of how many of these programs, clinics, etc function.

The fact the owner may/may not be in jail for running up against "the man" is only important if he rips off his clients. And, in this case, I don't believe that's been the case.

Hell, I would would venture that most the clinics in, for example, south Fla, are marginally compliant with local rules/laws, but still have a satisfied client base.

[Script]

I was still able to get ahold of the head guy. All I do is send an email requesting what I need and it arrives a week later. Sometimes sooner. Yes, there have been some hiccups as of late, but they are legit.

I'll check out the meso site.

[namvet]

thanks bro's, the meso site is really bashing them, makes a man wonder

[ecdysone]

thanks bro's, the meso site is really bashing them, makes a man wonder

I know this Chip guy, and I would say man-to-man he's good. As a businessman, I have absolutely no idea, and well, the rest speaks for itself.

[Script]

Just checked out the thread at Meso.


Jeez!

I'm still going to put an order in at the end of the month and see how it goes.

[Vettester]

Those of us who have been around understand the nuances of how many of these programs, clinics, etc function. I've been around, please explain further.

The fact the owner may/may not be in jail for running up against "the man" is only important if he rips off his clients. And, in this case, I don't believe that's been the case. Do you seriously look at this way?? As long as the client doesn't get ripped off, then whatever means the guy conducts his business is A OK by what you're saying? I don't want to be on the "man's" list when audit time comes with a clinic that isn't abiding by the law!

Hell, I would would venture that most the clinics in, for example, south Fla, are marginally compliant with local rules/laws, but still have a satisfied client base.

If so, then there might be more pharmacies closing like what happened last year.

In Bold

[durak]

I heard the same thing ... Didn't know if it was just a rumor though.

possible the negligent abuse of ALL CAPS finally caught up to him.

[Vettester]

possible the negligent abuse of ALL CAPS finally caught up to him.

And/ or the HGH flyer promotion that he ran a few years ago ... No clinic involved on that deal ... One-on-one, send him a check payable to his name.

Hey Durak, good to see you.

[ecdysone]

If so, then there might be more pharmacies closing like what happened last year.

In Bold

What I'm saying is obvious: many of the TRT-only clinics I've seen advertised often do not list any of their "medical" staff. Interesting, don't you think?

With regards to "being on the man's list when audit time comes" can you point to any clients of shady TRT clinics that have EVER been prosecuted? (excepting those engaged in insurance fraud themselves)?

I think it would be little stretch to say that the Feds investigation into "pain management" and TRT centers (often centered in south Florida) will be producing more headlines.

Some of the FDA-produced newsletters suggest that more, much more enfor***ent is on the way.

[pittbulldad]

I dealt with Chip when he was with another company.. seemed like a nice guy and very knowledgeable about TRT... when I went through with them all i did was send in my labs myself.. and they were "verified" by their doc.... there were a lot of things that made you wonder if it was legit.. because it certainly seemed like it was a bit too easy to get the stuff

[JohnnyVegas]

I talked with Chip a few times when I was having trouble with my local doc. I never used them, but Chip was knowledgable and very customer service oriented.

I believe, in the long run, that many of these clinics will be shut down. They treated this like a cash grab...and those never last. Many (not talking about Maximus directly) have overly permissive protocols and abusive prices that come in exchange for their willingness to help someone with normal Test levels "achieve optimal levels." They have become steroid distributors rather than health practitioners and I can't wait for them to be gone.

The government already hates anything related to steroids, and abuse of this system is going to have blowback that effects guys that really have low levels.

[APIs]

The government already hates anything related to steroids, and abuse of this system is going to have blowback that effects guys that really have low levels.

I hope not, but TRT is now becoming mainstream enough where men with a verified need will still obtain treatment. I'm hoping anyway...

[JohnnyVegas]

I hope not, but TRT is now becoming mainstream enough where men with a verified need will still obtain treatment. I'm hoping anyway...

Me too. My doctor told me that new rules are in effect that make it more difficult to get Test and HCG. I don't know if they are state laws, or federal. It could be a lot worse if this becomes a pet project of a politician that decides doctors have made a mockery of the system and the "loophole" that allows us to get illegal steroids (that will be his argument, not what is really happening) needs to be closed.

[bass]

I talked with Chip a few times when I was having trouble with my local doc. I never used them, but Chip was knowledgable and very customer service oriented.

I believe, in the long run, that many of these clinics will be shut down. They treated this like a cash grab...and those never last. Many (not talking about Maximus directly) have overly permissive protocols and abusive prices that come in exchange for their willingness to help someone with normal Test levels "achieve optimal levels." They have become steroid distributors rather than health practitioners and I can't wait for them to be gone.

The government already hates anything related to steroids, and abuse of this system is going to have blowback that effects guys that really have low levels.

i'm afraid you might be right, clinics are not interested in your health, they only care about how much they can sell you. i was able to convince my family doc to prescribe testosterone, but when the time came for a re-fill he refused! i guess with all the crap these clinics are doing its making headlines and doctors simply don't want to be part of it.

[HRTstudent]

I talked with Chip a few times when I was having trouble with my local doc. I never used them, but Chip was knowledgable and very customer service oriented.

I believe, in the long run, that many of these clinics will be shut down. They treated this like a cash grab...and those never last. Many (not talking about Maximus directly) have overly permissive protocols and abusive prices that come in exchange for their willingness to help someone with normal Test levels "achieve optimal levels." They have become steroid distributors rather than health practitioners and I can't wait for them to be gone.

The government already hates anything related to steroids, and abuse of this system is going to have blowback that effects guys that really have low levels.

Very well said.