TRT in Australia. Need to find a physician!!

[Movingmetal]

Can anyone refer me to a trt doctor in australia? I live in Melbourne. My current doctor is no help

[DanMan250]

PM sent

[kronik420]

http://www.thetestoclinic.com.au

[johnyz333]

http://www.thetestoclinic.com.au

Do not, I repeat, do not use the testoclinic!!!

[DanMan250]

Do not, I repeat, do not use the testoclinic!!!

I could not agree more!!!

[musclelover]

It is so backward a primitive here in Australia.

You want trt you can do it all yourself this website has everything ever know about trt.

I have friends you have used this site for trt and are absolute experts and you save soooo much.

[Ace111]

Do not, I repeat, do not use the testoclinic!!!

I could not agree more!!!

Any reasons?
I was thinking of setting up an appointment with them.

[kronik420]

Any reasons?
I was thinking of setting up an appointment with them.

same, why whats wrong with them?

[Heapsreal]

Just looking further into their site they are big into testosterone creams. Anyone know if they would prescribe TestE or sustanon ??

[johnyz333]

Just looking further into their site they are big into testosterone creams. Anyone know if they would prescribe TestE or sustanon??

Firstly they only prescribe some home made ' test lozenges', that is their only form of treatment.

Secondly, they diagnose you on the phone with a supposed doctor. But before they do that, they pre charge your credit card for $1500. You don't ever get to see anyone in person, it's a phone service and the test lozenges are shipped to you.

I don't know how they are still aloud to legally operate. Google them, their is a telegraph article on them.

As for their test lozenges, they may or may not work, don't know anyone that has tried them. But seriously, how can you be diagnosed by a doctor over the phone with no medical records or bloodwork, and then ship you a years supply of test lozenges.. It's insane!

Go see your GP an then refer to an endo.

[Movingmetal]

Self treatment sounds good to me, but how would you get the testosterone legally if your self treating? Can the doctor still give me scripts and i do it myself?

[DanMan250]

Self treatment sounds good to me, but how would you get the testosterone legally if your self treating? Can the doctor still give me scripts and i do it myself?

If you go to a doc who knows his knackers from his knees he will give you a script for test and let you treat yourself. He may suggest using a cream or gel first that needs to be applied every day but if you tell him that you would much prefer injections, that will be ok too. Shots are much quicker and less hassle but generally need to be done twice a week to give the most stable hormone levels. If using Primoteston/Test Enanthate you will only need to inject about 0.2ml every 3-4 days. You can even use a 30g pin which doesn't cause any muscle trauma and is painless but just takes a little longer.

[DanMan250]

Firstly they only prescribe some home made ' test lozenges', that is their only form of treatment.

Secondly, they diagnose you on the phone with a supposed doctor. But before they do that, they pre charge your credit card for $1500. You don't ever get to see anyone in person, it's a phone service and the test lozenges are shipped to you.

I don't know how they are still aloud to legally operate. Google them, their is a telegraph article on them.

As for their test lozenges, they may or may not work, don't know anyone that has tried them. But seriously, how can you be diagnosed by a doctor over the phone with no medical records or bloodwork, and then ship you a years supply of test lozenges.. It's insane!

Go see your GP an then refer to an endo.

Good post although you are wrong about asking your doc to refer you to an endo. 99.99% of them are completely clueless! You need to find a doc who specializes in male hormones.

[Heapsreal]

look for a doc who calls himself an Intergrative practioner, theyare usually up on TRT, also ask a compounding chemist which docs in the area treat patients with TRT.

[Movingmetal]

I spoke to 3 endos who were useless. They stated that a level of 8nmol/l is in the normal range. I'm 21 and 8 is not acceptable to me. I recently saw a testosterone specialiast who is not an endo, and he has my best interests at heart. I am
Now on testogel daily and can change to injections if I want. He said its his priority to keep me in the upper ranges. Happy man I am

[johnyz333]

I spoke to 3 endos who were useless. They stated that a level of 8nmol/l is in the normal range. I'm 21 and 8 is not acceptable to me. I recently saw a testosterone specialiast who is not an endo, and he has my best interests at heart. I am
Now on testogel daily and can change to injections if I want. He said its his priority to keep me in the upper ranges. Happy man I am

Good outcome mate, I was in the same position as you.

[Heapsreal]

Spoke with an antiaging clinic on the Gold coast, they sell the test cream after seeing their doc and getting a blood test. test cream is 10% and they recommend 1ml twice a day and this costs $180 a month. From what i have read though 1ml of 10% a day is enought for TRT, the antiaging clinic said this when i said $180 a month was expensive, they then said one could use 1ml a day and that whould then cost $90 a month.

I have a few quotes on test cream from compounding pharmacies, one place said $140 for 100ml 10%(thats 100 days at 1ml), thats alot cheaper then the antiaging clinic where obviously they are getting a good cut of the profits of the compounded T cream. If one could find a doc to prescribe T cream for TRT then maybe alot more cost effective then the antiaging clinic i spoke to.

Out of interest this same clinic said that they sell Gh therapy at a cost of over $800 a month, the same compounding chemist i got the price for T cream quote GH for $300 for a month. Antiaging medicine is all about them making money.

[DanMan250]

Spoke with an antiaging clinic on the Gold coast, they sell the test cream after seeing their doc and getting a blood test. test cream is 10% and they recommend 1ml twice a day and this costs $180 a month. From what i have read though 1ml of 10% a day is enought for TRT, the antiaging clinic said this when i said $180 a month was expensive, they then said one could use 1ml a day and that whould then cost $90 a month.

I have a few quotes on test cream from compounding pharmacies, one place said $140 for 100ml 10%(thats 100 days at 1ml), thats alot cheaper then the antiaging clinic where obviously they are getting a good cut of the profits of the compounded T cream. If one could find a doc to prescribe T cream for TRT then maybe alot more cost effective then the antiaging clinic i spoke to.

Out of interest this same clinic said that they sell Gh therapy at a cost of over $800 a month, the same compounding chemist i got the price for T cream quote GH for $300 for a month. Antiaging medicine is all about them making money.

Total rip off! Find a doc who will prescribe you Primoteston Depot (test enanthate ). It will only cost you $28 for a 2 month supply, so just $168 for an entire year! Creams and gels are a pain in the ass if u ask me

[Heapsreal]

Dont quote me on this but i think because test E and sustanon are covered under the PBS there are different requirements on eligability for them eg i think u need 3 morning blood tests showing low Total T, i dont think freeT levels come into it. Compounded creams arent covered by PBS so pay full price and a doc can prescribe them for low normal T and freeT without scrutiny of PBS.

I agree with ya, IM Test would be best. Im in a wait and see with my doc as im under going other treatments that could effect my T.

cheers!!!

[DanMan250]

Dont quote me on this but i think because test E and sustanon are covered under the PBS there are different requirements on eligability for them eg i think u need 3 morning blood tests showing low Total T, i dont think freeT levels come into it. Compounded creams arent covered by PBS so pay full price and a doc can prescribe them for low normal T and freeT without scrutiny of PBS.

I agree with ya, IM Test would be best. Im in a wait and see with my doc as im under going other treatments that could effect my T.

cheers!!!

Sustanon is now only available on a private script in Australia and from what i've heard they are phasing it out. You only need to have 2 blood tests under 8nmol to qualify for government subsidized TRT. Some docs will still prescribe Primoteston to patients if their levels are "low normal" on a private script. This is purely up to the docs discretion and it is not illegal for the doc to do this. Believe it or not the private script price for Primoteston is exactly the same as the PBS price!

[Heapsreal]

probably phasing out sust as they are bring T-deconate so they dont have any competition for it??
I have noticed that the price of sust has gone up as it was the same as primoteston awhile ago, around the $30 for 3 amps, now its like $90.

I did come across a compounding pharmacy selling Test Prop 10ml-50mg/ml $60, they recomending .4ml 3 times a week, thats only a touch over 50mg a week(Strange)?? i suppose dr can prescribe any dose they want, u would want 50mg twice a week minimum??

[DanMan250]

probably phasing out sust as they are bring T-deconate so they dont have any competition for it??
I have noticed that the price of sust has gone up as it was the same as primoteston awhile ago, around the $30 for 3 amps, now its like $90.

I did come across a compounding pharmacy selling Test Prop 10ml-50mg/ml $60, they recomending .4ml 3 times a week, thats only a touch over 50mg a week(Strange)?? i suppose dr can prescribe any dose they want, u would want 50mg twice a week minimum??

Yeah maybe bcoz now they have Reandron and Primoteston and Testogel they think there is no need for Sust as well. 50mg a week would be too low for most guys although i've come across one guy who feels great injecting 20mg 3 times a week. Most guys need around 100mg a week on average and it is best split into 2 doses to keep blood levels stable. I'm living in the UK now and doing 40mg every 3.5 days along with 100iu hCG ED.

[Sarmc1]

With the cream is 1ml per day in the morning enough, its so exspensive in australia

[mikzsan]

There are some compounding places here in Melb that can get you 10% T test 120ml total for about $110. I get from ACP in sydney..its a bit more at 146 shipped, but they have a very good rep. It comes in tube syringes so you can accurately extract any dose you want.


I only get a mild effect though, but doc says its seems to work for alot of patients. I did try some free sample testogel packs he gave me once and noticed a very positive response, but I didnt qualify for PBS so didn't want to pay 270 a month for it. I don't think Ill continue with the compounded cream, as I just don't have much faith anymore. Sure on paper it works, but they just havn't gone through the same trials/testing as Testogel. If you qualify for TRT on the PBS (hard to do!) and want to use topical, use testogel!

[johnhenry]

I have been looking into this myself - there is a place in Ballina, NSW called Custom Medicine www.custommedicine.com.au The website has lots of good info on it. Prices for their custom compounded T gels are good. They also supply T proprionate injectable. They post orders to you also. JH.

[Sarmc1]

can anyone sugest a trt doctor in sydney? currently using a cream but its a pain in the ass and exspensive

[NJA82]

Sustanon is now only available on a private script in Australia and from what i've heard they are phasing it out. You only need to have 2 blood tests under 8nmol to qualify for government subsidized TRT. Some docs will still prescribe Primoteston to patients if their levels are "low normal" on a private script. This is purely up to the docs discretion and it is not illegal for the doc to do this. Believe it or not the private script price for Primoteston is exactly the same as the PBS price!

Sorry to drag up an old thread but this really interests me, i have been having trouble getting treatment from my GP, i have 2 blood tests well below 8nmol ( 3.1 and 5.5 ) yet because another test i had done was only ever so slightly in range ( just above minimum at 11.1 ( 10-35 range ) he wont treat me and says im fine, im definitely not fine, have been struggling for quite some time with low libido and energy overall, i have been diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism by the pathology doctors yet my GP reckons im to young at 30 to have this problem...

With these 2 blood tests where and how could I find a GP to take me seriously and help me out? Seriously to the point now of wanting to self medicate as i have a very good knowledge of whats required, specific protocols and how to interpret my bloods. Be nice if i didnt have to resort to that though.

[20YO]

Sorry to drag up an old thread but this really interests me, i have been having trouble getting treatment from my GP, i have 2 blood tests well below 8nmol ( 3.1 and 5.5 ) yet because another test i had done was only ever so slightly in range ( just above minimum at 11.1 ( 10-35 range ) he wont treat me and says im fine, im definitely not fine, have been struggling for quite some time with low libido and energy overall, i have been diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism by the pathology doctors yet my GP reckons im to young at 30 to have this problem...

With these 2 blood tests where and how could I find a GP to take me seriously and help me out? Seriously to the point now of wanting to self medicate as i have a very good knowledge of whats required, specific protocols and how to interpret my bloods. Be nice if i didnt have to resort to that though.

Im in a similar boat mate. im in South Aus, wondering if any one can point me in direction of good docs/compounding pharmacies? willing to travel if need be!

[elec]

Hi Guys, I'm from melbourne aus and been training at spartans for 3 yrs approx .Please can you's help me out. I have a lower test level than my 60 YR OLD DAD !! I'm 28 got 4 kids, got the snip , and am sick of going to doctors who say i'm in the 'normal range' because i don't feel normal. I got a test at the peak of my training - S TESTO 14.6 (NORMAL RANGE 12-31.9) , S SHBG 21 (NORMAL RANGE 17-56). I felt lethargic,weak,tired,no motivation, no 'drive', very low libido,moody,get hot flushes,ab fat, got depressed, etc etc. Doc's said it was caffeine, maybe some of the sups messing with me ,too stressed with work, so stopped it all of it. No sups , 8-10 hrs sleep per night , no heavy training , eating very healthy,now,worse after 3 months . Fck.

BTW I have tried 'TESTOCLINIC' and it was a scam , a complete waist of my money did nothing and they only sent half of the ""medicine""

Can anyone please send me a docs name in eastern suburbs melbourne who will actually give a stuff !I don't care if its not bulk billing. Some of the guys in this post have had some luck with it. All i want is to be kept in the peak of the normal levels. Its not asking too much i think ! I know there is something wrong with me. I was not like this all my life!

[thehvacdude]

Does anyone know of a doctor in Brisbane/Gold Coast who specializes in TRT? I'm 29 with a total test of 12nmol/L which i believe is about the average of a 70 year old man

* My sex drive is down
* I feel lethargic
* I find it hard to concentrate
* I lifted more weight at the gym when i was 24
* I often start to feel tired to the point where im falling asleep if im sitting down anytime after midday.
* I get moody

The above symptoms began at about 25 but have progressively worsened as i have aged to the point were i'm no longer interested in having sex etc etc

I only discovered that my test levels were low this week but my current GP seeme to think 12nmol/L T/T & 29pmol/L F/T is acceptable so i'm looking for a doctor who has my best interests at heart & will help me get my test levels back up to where they should be for a 29yo male, i'm happy to inject rather than use creams etc.

PLEASE HELP!!!

[johnhenry]

Does anyone know of a doctor in Brisbane/Gold Coast who specializes in TRT? I'm 29 with a total test of 12nmol/L which i believe is about the average of a 70 year old man

* My sex drive is down
* I feel lethargic
* I find it hard to concentrate
* I lifted more weight at the gym when i was 24
* I often start to feel tired to the point where im falling asleep if im sitting down anytime after midday.
* I get moody

The above symptoms began at about 25 but have progressively worsened as i have aged to the point were i'm no longer interested in having sex etc etc

I only discovered that my test levels were low this week but my current GP seeme to think 12nmol/L T/T & 29pmol/L F/T is acceptable so i'm looking for a doctor who has my best interests at heart & will help me get my test levels back up to where they should be for a 29yo male, i'm happy to inject rather than use creams etc.

PLEASE HELP!!!

I live in Toowoomba - have educated my GP & he writes scripts. Might be inconvenient, but it's a nice drive .

[thehvacdude]

I live in Toowoomba - have educated my GP & he writes scripts. Might be inconvenient, but it's a nice drive .

I'd definitely be interested to speak with a doctor who has been educated in the field, can you pm me his details? Also love to pick your brain about the topic if i can?

[johnhenry]

Be happy to talk to you. JH. Not sure how the PM function works.

[Janvier]

Hi Everyone, sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I have the same problem - Need to find a physician! Can anyone refer me to a trt doctor in australia? I live in Melbourne. My current doctor has NFI.

[Janvier]

Hi Everyone, sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I have the same problem - Need to find a physician! Can anyone refer me to a trt doctor in australia? I live in Melbourne. My current doctor has NFI.

[scruffy67]

Hi Everyone, sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I have the same problem - Need to find a physician! Can anyone refer me to a trt doctor in australia? I live in Melbourne. My current doctor has NFI.

Sorry to re bump this but also looking for someone in Melbourne my bloods are 12 nmol/l with all the typical other symptoms please pm me,

[murt112]

I spoke to 3 endos who were useless. They stated that a level of 8nmol/l is in the normal range. I'm 21 and 8 is not acceptable to me. I recently saw a testosterone specialiast who is not an endo, and he has my best interests at heart. I am
Now on testogel daily and can change to injections if I want. He said its his priority to keep me in the upper ranges. Happy man I am

Hey mate,

Sorry to drag such an old post up but was wondering if you could direct me to the doctor you consulted? Tried to PM but can't do so yet.

Appreciate it!

[yettibecsuse]

I have a great one in Brisbane, he is one of the UQ Med lectures old school but is on the ball

[weightpunk]

Please send me a private message with a doctor in Brisbane that understands TRT well and won't screw me around.

My current doctor is just screwing me around forcing me to take sleep apnea tests etc before he will even refer me to an endocrinologist... Even though I have no symptoms or family history of sleep apnea at all.

[weightpunk]

Or email please... Tempest.seven at gmail