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    Low Estradiol level

    jBeen on TRT for 2 years 100cc or Test./week last 4 months added .5 mg Anastrozole ED, 5mg Finasteride ED, 500 iu HCG EOD. Been feeling great but blood work last week gave me some concerns: Estradiol: <6 Testrosterone Serum 857 Free Test. high 24.4 Triglycerides high 316 HDL Cholestrerol 48 I know I have to improve my diet and I will I"m 58 years old hit the gym .............My doctor says stqay on the 100cc /week and decrease the Anast. to .5mg EOD stay with the5mg of Finasteride ED. added some supplements Vitamin D and a Niacin2xdaily. my concern is the low estradiol on getting it back to a middle level Thanks and I"m surry I couldn"t put the blood work in a list form (someday I"ll learn how to spell and use the keyboard)

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    Who suggested .5mg adex daily? And was this based on prior BW where you had a higher E2 level? If you're feeling great now give it time and sides from low E will kick in. Libido down, joints hurt, etc. You should probably be able to get by with about .25 mg AI twice a week. At the most 3 times based on your metabolism, IMO. Right now you need to get that level back up to arguably 20 - 30 depending on how you feel.

    You may consider stopping the AI altogether for a period of time but if you do that you need to be cognizant of an estrogen rebound issue. To counter this there's Nolvadex which will allow your E to rise but block it at your chest receptors. It's between you and your doctor but as stated, .5mg EOD is way high and what people (bodybuilders) do when on high dose cycles.

    It's also a very high and arguably unnecessary dosage of HCG . Average for TRT would probably be 250 IU's x 2-3 per week. You're taking Finesteride. Do you have BPH or using this for DHT/hair loss issues?

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    Kelkel Thanks .5mg adex was suggested by my Dr. . had prior bloodwork but was see beginning of gyno. Libido is down and joint are stiff. I do have some Nolvadex and could use instead of tha Anastrozole..Finesteride is for BPH. will drop the HCG to 250 IU"s . Thanks Again

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    Instead of Finesteride for BPH how about Cialis at low dose:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000252/

    It's an extremely healthy item to add to a protocol.

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    Thanks again, My primary care doctor has metioned that to me says its a daily dose....

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    Dose your AI on bloodwork and symptoms. You must of have real high ranges for a doc to put you on .5 ED. Unless he is retarded. But everyone is different. Myself I take 1.5mg per week for 120mg test. Some people are just more tolerant to it or convert to estrogen more easily.

    I don't think there is a need to stop the AI, just changing the dosages will work fast enough without getting out of wack again. I'd go with the doc's advise with .5 EOD. If issues continue, contact your doctor before the scheduled appointment and tell him you think your levels are still too low and get bloodwork earlier and adjust again.

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    just goes to show ,..that most doc's know very little T replacement,

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    Go with what the Doc prescribed. I take .25 ed as I convert very quickly.

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    Thanks Allaaro, Will get a complete blood wook in the next couple of months, prior estradiol level was 37

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    Get off of this as soon as you can: Finasteride ED

    Finasteride is about as evil of drug ever made and it's negative consequences for men are sever.

    Do some research on it and you will see.

    Cialis (Tadalafil) is by far a much better option for so many reasons.

    BTW, I agree with kel's assessment above. Ai's are very powerful antagonists and a little goes a long way.

    Also, 500iu of hCG EOD is way too much. You would do better on a 250iu EOD...this is one where too much hCG can increase intratesticular E2 and AI's are largely ineffective in controlling not discounting the possibility of desensitizing the receptors on the leydig cells.

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    Kelkel is that 20-30 range for sensitive assay or total estradiol?

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    ^^^^kel means 20 to 30 pg/ml on a sensitive assay.

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    thanks everybody, will get the cialis daily and hcg 250 2x week. Funny this doctor seems be really be on top of it, being in Los Angeles and himself on TRT for years. Once again muchas gracias....

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