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    TRT Long Term

    35 years old, 215lbs, 26% bodyfat. After stopping cypionate for TRT (twice) for some medical checks, Im back to TRT for long term quality of life.

    Test levels (total) have been dropping for over 3 years. Started at 425....then 405....395, then 295, 300, and now 238 (as of 3 weeks ago before I started back up again). all these values are off TRT.

    I have 200mg/1ml cypionate. I am currently taking 150mg, twice a week as a j ump start, with intention of going down to 100mg, twice a week for long term (per my script).

    My diet is not the best, but not the worst. I have recently scrubbed sugars and am doing tons of cardio (10, 20 mile bicycle rides....90 degree weather).

    I have no energy and low libido without test.

    I am curious how 300mg per week will affect me for 6-8 weeks, and how long term 200mg will impact me. Below are blood results from last 2 draws.

    Clinical Results
    Hematology Values: Date of Service: Result: Normal Range:
    Hematocrit 06/14/2012 47.3 % 40.0-48.0 %
    Hemoglobin 06/14/2012 16.9 g/dL 13.4-16.9 g/dL
    MCH 06/14/2012 29.9 pg 24.7-33.4 pg
    MCHC 06/14/2012 35.7 g/dL 32.0-36.8 g/dL
    Mean Cell Volume 06/14/2012 83.6 FL 80.3-94.0 FL
    Platelet Count 06/14/2012 245 k/uL 143-382 k/uL
    RBC 06/14/2012 5.66 mil/uL 4.45-5.73 mil/uL
    RDW 06/14/2012 36.8 FL 36.8-46.1 FL
    WBC 06/14/2012 5.17 k/uL 4.00-10.90 k/uL
    Chemistry Values: Date of Service: Result: Normal Range:
    ALT 06/14/2012 140 U/L 11-66 U/L
    AST 06/14/2012 71 U/L 14-59 U/L
    Albumin 06/14/2012 4.5 g/dL 3.5-5.0 g/dL
    Alk. Phosphatase 06/14/2012 87 U/L 38-126 U/L
    BUN 06/14/2012 22 mg/dL 7-20 mg/dL
    Calcium 06/14/2012 9.2 mg/dL 8.4-10.2 mg/dL
    Chloride 06/14/2012 104 mmol/L 98-107 mmol/L
    Creatinine 06/14/2012 0.8 mg/dL 0.7-1.3 mg/dL
    Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) Level 06/14/2012 3.0 mlU/ML(c) 1.6-8.0 mlU/ML
    Free T4 06/14/2012 1.37 ng/dL 0.64-1.77 ng/dL
    Glucose Level 06/14/2012 113 mg/dL(c) 65-110 mg/dL
    Lutenizing Hormone 06/14/2012 5.0 mlU/ML(c) 1.5-9.3 mlU/ML
    Potassium 06/14/2012 4.4 mmol/L 3.3-4.7 mmol/L
    Sodium 06/14/2012 141 mmol/L 137-145 mmol/L
    TSH 06/14/2012 1.160 uIU/mL 0.465-4.680 uIU/mL
    Testosterone Total 07/24/2012 238 ng/dL(c) 132-813 ng/dL
    06/14/2012 300 ng/dL(c) 132-813 ng/dL
    Testosterone, Free (Male) 07/24/2012 80.0 pg/mL(c) 47.0-244.0 pg/mL
    06/14/2012 94.0 pg/mL(c) 47.0-244.0 pg/mL
    Total Bilirubin 06/14/2012 0.8 mg/dL 0.2-1.3 mg/dL
    Total CO2 06/14/2012 23 mmol/L 22-30 mmol/L
    Total Protein 06/14/2012 8.1 g/dL 6.3-8.2 g/dL

    Hoping for any/all input. Since I am not cycling off, and will only be on, I have not gotten any stuff usually associated with PCT.

    Thanks team.

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    I've been on 100 mgs e4d (200 mgs/week) for >2.5 years now experiencing only positives. TRT is very individual and everyone's "sweet-spot" is different as far as dosing. However, it may be beneficial for you starting off at 100 mgs/week first and increasing it from there (only if warranted). Regardless, some on here will automatically trash dosing @ 200 mgs/week without having any data to back up their opinions. In the end, you need to find the correct dosing that works for you. What about taking an AI such as Anastrazole? You’ll need this if running 200+ mgs/week. Also, I did not see you mention HCG either? IMO - I don't see any benefit for you running 300 mgs/week from the start. Whatever the amount, it will take 10-14 days for you to feel/notice any changes. Starting @ 300/week may bring out some unwanted side effects. Good luck...

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    Good stuff. Like I said...no PCT stuff, and Im not on any AI stuff. Interestingly, my balls never shrank when I took it before...was on for a while...almost a year.

    Looking at your pic....did you gain any weight? Feeling bloated at all? Did you have to adjust diet?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standardtampaguy View Post
    Good stuff. Like I said...no PCT stuff, and Im not on any AI stuff. Interestingly, my balls never shrank when I took it before...was on for a while...almost a year.

    Looking at your pic....did you gain any weight? Feeling bloated at all? Did you have to adjust diet?

    Thanks.
    You wouldnt be doing PCT while on TRT. You need to talk to your Doc about getting prescribed HCG & an AI which you will likely need using the doses you referred to. Read the stickies on HCG etc. However, BW showing your E2 level will determine any needed AI use. No bloating, only more muscle since I started TRT. I've always eaten a lot & have ranged from 260 to 275 over the last 10 years of training. Recently dropped 15 lbs down to 260 just eating less and my lower joints feel much better. Good luck...
    Last edited by APIs; 08-09-2012 at 07:08 PM.

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