Doc took me off Anastrozole

[TraceMYD]

My doc took me off my anastrozole

I been on it since April 2012

He gave it to me because my Estradiol shot up from 20 to 70 Range </=63
after 4 month of being on TRT Test Ena

I started off taking 1mg MWF of the Anastrozole
and slowly lowered the dosage to .25 mg EOD over the 4 months.

After my rx ran out I called to tell him and he said I don't need anymore
right now.

He said, "I need estrogen, If you keep taking it, you will develop cholesterol problems,
dementia, and bone loss. You should only take it short term to control it. Estrogen is good for you.
At 3 months the side effects should be gone. Even at low dosages like .25mg can knock your estrogen down to
zero which is not good long term."

He also, stated that if I start getting bloated or itchy nipples again that he will put me back on it.

However, he further stated that when you first start TRT your test and estrogen levels jump up so quick that it
is common to get side effects but now that my test levels are higher and my body is adjusted to it..that taking me off
the ai and letting me estrogen increase shouldn't cause any problems.

What do yall think?
Note: it's been 3months since my last bloodwork..next bloodwork is scheduled in 2 months.

[bass]

what is your complete protocol?

[TraceMYD]

what is your complete protocol?

35 y/o

Started TRT in Feb 2012:
250mg week of Test Enathate: one shot every Tuesday. ( I can split it up if i want but never tried it yet) Also, this dosage was worked up to over the 6 months based on bloodwork and feedback on how I "felt" to the doc)

Started Anastrozole April 2012:
1mg MWF for the first 2 weeks then weened down to .25 eod to get etrogen in control(based on blood work and feedback on how i "felt")
I have one week left of my anastrozole then I'm done

Started HCG July 2012:
500iu 3xweek MWF

[steroid.com 1]

Read the sticky on Estradiol and Management at the top of the forum...this will help you.

[SEOINAGE]

curious what your E2 is right now with the .25 eod.

[SEOINAGE]

i started anastrozole a month ago and love what it has done for the bloating, lost 8 lbs and I eat as much as possible, but I think my dose might be too high at 1 mg a week. E2 being in a good range is the important part. Doc doesn't sound completely stupid I would just like to know if he has blood work to back up him taking you off of it.

[TraceMYD]

Read the sticky on Estradiol and Management at the top of the forum...this will help you.

Hi gdevin!

I read it before writing making this thread.. very informative yes, but didn't find the answers to my particular question to it...
Which is, never having to possibly take an ai again after being on one for 3+months while on TRT
Also, I saw nothing mentioned of the side effects of being on an AI like my doctor mentioned that i posted above.

[HRTstudent]

Hi gdevin!

I read it before writing making this thread.. very informative yes, but didn't find the answers to my particular question to it...
Which is, never having to possibly take an ai again after being on one for 3+months while on TRT
Also, I saw nothing mentioned of the side effects of being on an AI like my doctor mentioned that i posted above.

There are some pretty serious ides to anastrozole and lowering your e2 too much will definitely have negative consequences. Namely, it is crucial to have e2 for bone density.

Also, it is fair to say that when we start TRT our bodies take some time to adjust. Does tihs mean you won't need any for of AI? I can't tell you. But it very well could be that you need less or none. If you need a LOT of AI (relatively) then its probably not going to mean you need none. But the doc is concerned for good reason.

The fact that he said he will put you back on if you get gyno is GOOD. it means he will do whats best for you, but he wants to use his clinical skills to see if he can get you off anastrozole. I can't blame him, I wouldn't want to be on anastrzole if I didn't have to be.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

However, he further stated that when you first start TRT your test and estrogen levels jump up so quick that it
is common to get side effects but now that my test levels are higher and my body is adjusted to it..that taking me off
the ai and letting me estrogen increase shouldn't cause any problems.

There is some truth to this. If you have extremely low E2 levels when you start TRT, you probably will convert T to E2 more than the normal person. After you E2 gets into a normal range for a while (months, not weeks), the enzyme will diminish and you convert less. But for this to be the case, you had to have been very low in E2 for a long time before starting TRT.

If you need an AI, you can always buy it online from research companies. Our sponsor is one of them. IM me if you want other sources. Even when I used an AI and had a prescription, I bought it online because it was sooo much less.

[SEOINAGE]

There is some truth to this. If you have extremely low E2 levels when you start TRT, you probably will convert T to E2 more than the normal person. After you E2 gets into a normal range for a while (months, not weeks), the enzyme will diminish and you convert less. But for this to be the case, you had to have been very low in E2 for a long time before starting TRT.

If you need an AI, you can always buy it online from research companies. Our sponsor is one of them. IM me if you want other sources. Even when I used an AI and had a prescription, I bought it online because it was sooo much less.

Ya I was surprised AI from my cheap pharmacy is still more money.

[HRTstudent]

Are you guys getting insurance coverage? Generic anastrozole is a dirt cheap drug... not sure if you were trying to get arimidex or what but money should not be a concern with anastrozole...

[SEOINAGE]

considering ARR you get 30 mg for 44 bucks. thats a decent amount cheaper than pharm. And yeah getting generic, maybe I need a new pharm but this place was dirt cheap for test and hcg in comparison. I mean yeah my AI costs me 8 bucks a month, but still think the price is high for what you are getting, extremely low amount of it.

[TraceMYD]

There are some pretty serious ides to anastrozole and lowering your e2 too much will definitely have negative consequences. Namely, it is crucial to have e2 for bone density.

Also, it is fair to say that when we start TRT our bodies take some time to adjust. Does tihs mean you won't need any for of AI? I can't tell you. But it very well could be that you need less or none. If you need a LOT of AI (relatively) then its probably not going to mean you need none. But the doc is concerned for good reason.

The fact that he said he will put you back on if you get gyno is GOOD. it means he will do whats best for you, but he wants to use his clinical skills to see if he can get you off anastrozole. I can't blame him, I wouldn't want to be on anastrzole if I didn't have to be.

Makes perfect sense, I'm interested to see how my body feels with some estrogen back in it in the normal range.. I'm sure the the Anastrozole knocked it all the way down. Maybe i will get more energy and fatloss with a normal range of Etrogen in my body?

[SEOINAGE]

considering ARR you get 30 mg for 44 bucks. thats a decent amount cheaper than pharm. And yeah getting generic, maybe I need a new pharm but this place was dirt cheap for test and hcg in comparison. I mean yeah my AI costs me 8 bucks a month, but still think the price is high for what you are getting, extremely low amount of it.

hmm so i just got 12 pills from farm for same price as what i got 4 pills from them for last time. Makes 0 sense right? And the bastards only sent me 1 test vial instead of 2.

[TraceMYD]

hmm so i just got 12 pills from farm for same price as what i got 4 pills from them for last time. Makes 0 sense right? And the bastards only sent me 1 test vial instead of 2.

Is this a legit pharmacy? Sounds kind of weird for those kind of mistakes especially with a controlled substance

[SEOINAGE]

Last time they just flat out didn't send me any vials because they said it was too close to the last time I got a vial. Of course they didn't call or anything just sent my other crap, I would rather have had them call and told me so I could have them hold off on the other stuff so that I could save money on shipping, annoying. It's legit otherwise I could get more test. I need to stock up for my blast coming up, and it's not going too well.

[HRTstudent]

Makes perfect sense, I'm interested to see how my body feels with some estrogen back in it in the normal range.. I'm sure the the Anastrozole knocked it all the way down. Maybe i will get more energy and fatloss with a normal range of Etrogen in my body?

When my e2 goes too low its almost as bad as when it goes too high. I say "almost" because when my e2 gets too high i start to get gyno but that doesn't happen when I go too low. But the mental sides are there. There are physical sides that are quite disturbing as well. Anastrozole is some powerful shit. I might be talking to my doc about aromasin soon if it seems to be more "forgiving."

[Hackamaniac]

When my e2 goes too low its almost as bad as when it goes too high. I say "almost" because when my e2 gets too high i start to get gyno but that doesn't happen when I go too low. But the mental sides are there. There are physical sides that are quite disturbing as well. Anastrozole is some powerful shit. I might be talking to my doc about aromasin soon if it seems to be more "forgiving."

Hrt would you happen to know the price difference between the two compounds? I've only been on arimidex for a little while...Seems to be workings...I've never experience low e2, but when it's high i'm really irritable and always on edge.

[HRTstudent]

Hrt would you happen to know the price difference between the two compounds? I've only been on arimidex for a little while...Seems to be workings...I've never experience low e2, but when it's high i'm really irritable and always on edge.

Arimidex is brand name anastrozole. Only way to know what it will cost you is to call up your pharmacy and ask... they should do it no problems because you have a script. Price always depends on your insurance, but for me brand name is usually at least 3-4 times more expensive.

Anastrozole is a very cheap drug.

[#1stunna]

Based on my experiencing both high and low E2 I would rather have an issue with high than low. I been below 20 for couple weeks now and it sucks. I went from taking .25 a day to once a week. When I was high it didn't take long to get it down and my erections were still strong. My BF is 10% 172lbs 6'0 so Estrogen really effects the way I feel.

[O40]

Hey guys,

Been on HRT since 2009, doc would only prescribe CYP at 200 MG a month, once a month. I modified it to about 70 mg every 3 days, and last year I switched it to Susenon, which I feel much better on. He would not consider an AI, HCG or test my E2, but I used to juice and have both compounds, and I will ask/demand for an E2 test next time. He is a good doc, bout kind of a country doc If I take .25 of adex it knocks my libido down and all kinds of nasty sides.

I started using I3C about 6 months ago and from a feel better it seems to work fine without the sides of an AI.

Good luck to the poster.

[Hackamaniac]

Arimidex is brand name anastrozole. Only way to know what it will cost you is to call up your pharmacy and ask... they should do it no problems because you have a script. Price always depends on your insurance, but for me brand name is usually at least 3-4 times more expensive.

Anastrozole is a very cheap drug.

I was asking about Aromasin..... I'm taking generic Arimidex already...

[jwh7699]

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I am interested in taking an AI in the future. I don't want to jack this tread.

Quick question. I checked out the web site mentioned. When it says the AI is in liquid form, is it taken through injection or orally? What are the pros and cons of injecting an AI vs. orally?

Thanks!! Best of Luck!!

[jimmyinkedup]

When my e2 goes too low its almost as bad as when it goes too high. I say "almost" because when my e2 gets too high i start to get gyno but that doesn't happen when I go too low. But the mental sides are there. There are physical sides that are quite disturbing as well. Anastrozole is some powerful shit. I might be talking to my doc about aromasin soon if it seems to be more "forgiving."

Granted im not on trt yet but right now im cruising at 250mgs test/week and 150mgs deca /week. I switched from arimidex (anastrozole) to aromasin (exemestane). I took a while to dial in dosage ..i almost gave up and switched back but now im glad i didnt. I like the exemestane and with dosage now dialed in I dont get the peaks and valleys. I think technically exemestne is "stronger" than aromasin but with its diff moa once dialed in I love it. I just get mine from ar-r.

[jasc]

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I am interested in taking an AI in the future. I don't want to jack this tread.

Quick question. I checked out the web site mentioned. When it says the AI is in liquid form, is it taken through injection or orally? What are the pros and cons of injecting an AI vs. orally?

Thanks!! Best of Luck!!

oral

The AI's are not sterile and usually have an alcohol base. You do NOT want to inject this.

[jwh7699]

Thanks for the follow-up jasc!