B12 & Bcomplex Injections

[testluva]

My Dr wants to add B12 & Bcomplex vitamin injections to my HRT to self administer IM. It supposed to add fat burning and increase energy levels. Can you guys share anything on this?

[MuscleInk]

My Dr wants to add B12 & Bcomplex vitamin injections to my HRT to self administer IM. It supposed to add fat burning and increase energy levels. Can you guys share anything on this?

I've found the only real benefit is a slight increase in appetite. Nothing crazy. No impact on fatigue or wakefulness for me. B12 can be administered IM or SubQ if preferred.

[Rwy]

same here 2 weeks in I noticed no difference. I thought I went a little harder on cardio but probably in my head

[HRTstudent]

B12 shots are pretty common.They were a huge supplement rage (gimmick) years ago. People on tv and in ads were touting it as some kind of fat-loss, energy boosting, cure-all.

Of course, some people made money selling it, but nearly all the people taking it didn't change their lives.

If you're deficient in B12, specifically, then a shot is a very easy way to bring your levels up. And we have good evidence to support higher b12 levels as opposed to mid-range or lower.

I don't know anything about b-complex shots.

Ultimately, if you can absorb B vitamins via food (check baseline levels) or from a vitamin then I would personally do that before shots.

[MyteeJ]

I take 500 mcg of B12 via tab daily and inject 1000 mcg weekly.

My BW has me at 1366 <211-946> after 7 weeks on this protocol.

I thought it would be a huge boost in energy, especially at these levels, but I don't feel overly energetic.

BF has dropped and workouts are better for me but b12 is only one small piece of an overall program.

I talked to my doc about b12 levels and he said he keeps his patients on the higher end bc of many benefits.

[MD2B]

I have personally supplemented with high levels of vitamin B12 on a daily basis and noticed no noticeable difference. Perhaps if one were deficient in B12 from onset one would notice more of a change but this wasn't the case for me.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

B12 injections did not do anything for me. I started taking a good sublingual B complex and had good results from that. My D bloodlevels did not rise until I went to sublingual for that too.

[HRTstudent]

BF has dropped and workouts are better for me but b12 is only one small piece of an overall program.

Very good statement here.

I don't recommend B12 for a nice energy boost.

I recommend (and take) B12 because it is easy, inexpensive, and a proven part of overall health and wellness. We know that having too little is bad. Anyone can afford and take B12 shots, pills, sublinguals.

[testluva]

Several of my friends have told me its part if a complete HRT program. It does have great health benefits like HRTStudent said above.

[Vettester]

Take a look at the methylcobalamin version of B12, as opposed to the more common version, cyanacobalamin B12. The methyl is what you will find naturally in plants and tissue.

Here is an article from Dr. D'Adamo, which provides a wealth of information on the two forms of B12. http://www.4yourtype.com/methylb12.asp Methylcobalamin will usually be a little more pricey, and trickier to find, but worth it when you do. Many benefits, including helping the regulation of cortisol, and the hormone melatonan to help with sleep. I personally saw night and day difference between the two! Look into it.

[testluva]

Awesome thanks for the advice. I was looking into it. My compound pharmacy can make it. Just need a RX.

[HRTstudent]

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Take a look at the methylcobalamin version of B12, as opposed to the more common version, cyanacobalamin B12. The methyl is what you will find naturally in plants and tissue.

Here is an article from Dr. D'Adamo, which provides a wealth of information on the two forms of B12. http://www.4yourtype.com/methylb12.asp Methylcobalamin will usually be a little more pricey, and trickier to find, but worth it when you do. Many benefits, including helping the regulation of cortisol, and the hormone melatonan to help with sleep. I personally saw night and day difference between the two! Look into it.

I agree with this... but the biggest trouble is finding the methyl version. My current doc expressed the same - methyl would be better, but where can you get it?

Oh well... for now I will take the cyano.

[Badidea]

Try jarrow formulas. High quality. Here's the profile for the b complex, B Right
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 100
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Vitamin B1 (as thiamine mononitrate) 25 mg 1,667%
Vitamin B2 (as riboflavin) 25 mg 1,470%
Vitamin B3 (as niacin) 25 mg 125%
Vitamin B3 (as niacinamide) 100 mg 500%
Vitamin B5 (as calcium D-pantothenate) 100 mg 1,000%
Pantethine (vitamin B5 derivative) 25 mg *
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 25 mg 1,250%
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxal 5-phosphate) 10 mg 500%
Folate (from folic acid and Quatrefolic® (6S)-5-methyl-tetrahydrofolic acid glucosamine salt) 400 mcg 100%
Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin) 100 mcg 1,667%
Biotin 300 mcg 100%
Choline (as choline bitartrate) 50 mg *
Inositol 50 mg *
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 30 mg *
*Daily value not established.

[HRTstudent]

Thank you, I was actually referring to injections though regarding the cyano vs methyl.

[Badidea]

Sorry about that. Didn't read thoroughly enough.

[Vettester]

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I agree with this... but the biggest trouble is finding the methyl version. My current doc expressed the same - methyl would be better, but where can you get it?

Oh well... for now I will take the cyano.

Fortunately, it's readily available with my clinic. I'll do some digging though and see if it's also at one of the trusted research companies.

[testluva]

If you can get your HRT doctor give you a script just call around to different compound pharmacies to see who can make it for you. That's what I did and i found one in my area.

[rmarganti]

I get my B-complex and Super MIC without a script from buyb12vitamin dot com

[Rusty11]

Fortunately, it's readily available with my clinic. I'll do some digging though and see if it's also at one of the trusted research companies.

So, I'm guessing that you do experience the benefits that the other "version" does not provide. Interesting. Thanks for the info. I've been looking into b12, but not interested if there are no noticeable benefits. Time for me to do some research.

Edit: duh. I just re-read your original post and you make it clear that you do see a difference. I'm particularly interested in the possibility of helping with sleep.

[kelkel]

Take a look at the methylcobalamin version of B12, as opposed to the more common version, cyanacobalamin B12. The methyl is what you will find naturally in plants and tissue.

Here is an article from Dr. D'Adamo, which provides a wealth of information on the two forms of B12. http://www.4yourtype.com/methylb12.asp Methylcobalamin will usually be a little more pricey, and trickier to find, but worth it when you do. Many benefits, including helping the regulation of cortisol, and the hormone melatonan to help with sleep. I personally saw night and day difference between the two! Look into it.

Good read Vette! I actually ordered some of this a few days ago and it came in today. Jarrow Methyl B-12 5000 mcg.

[Rusty11]

So, would sublinguals be a waste of time? Thanks

[austinite]

So, would sublinguals be a waste of time? Thanks

When compared to injections, I would say so.

I think I'm getting on the methylcobalamin wagon.

[Rusty11]

Thanks. More research...

Edit: these guys have me discovering something "new" every week. And, every one has been a grand slam, so far.

[Moparman]

So if b12 doesn't really help w energy what does?

[powerlifterty16]

you won't regret it man I have been using the jarrow methyl 5000's for years. It slowed my metabolism down significantly which allowed me to put on weight(a good thing). The sublinguals in many cases have been shown to be more effective. Just make sure you put them under your tongue and dont chew or swallow them. I love taking my b12 every morning.

Good read Vette! I actually ordered some of this a few days ago and it came in today. Jarrow Methyl B-12 5000 mcg.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

They are talking about injection boy ! Read the tread you now have posted 12 in 1 day and reseived 3 answers . . . . lol !

[powerlifterty16]

They are talking about injection boy ! Read the tread you now have posted 12 in 1 day and reseived 3 answers . . . . lol !

no they are talking about the jarrow sublinguals you fool. Stop harassing me. Mods, take a look at my profile, this fool keeps spamming hateful remarks at me.
received has no s btw.

[MickeyKnox]

Just to be clear, is this what you're all referring to? Thanks.

http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formula.../dp/B0013OQGO6

[FRDave]

I take the MRM branded Methylcobalamin 2000 mcg daily and my blood levels raised from 702 to 1169 on a scale of 200-910. These can be found online for under $7 for a bottle of 60 tabs. It also has 400 mcg of folic acid per serving.

Dave

[Rusty11]

Just to be clear, is this what you're all referring to? Thanks.

http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formula.../dp/B0013OQGO6

That's what I was looking at. I guess I'll go with these since I'm having little luck finding injectable. The two places I found were extremely expensive

[FRDave]

That's what I was looking at. I guess I'll go with these since I'm having little luck finding injectable. The two places I found were extremely expensive

5000 mcg is a very high dose so be careful. 2000 mcg daily brought me up over 400 points in less than a month.

Dave

[powerlifterty16]

i've taken 5-15 per day for years.

5000 mcg is a very high dose so be careful. 2000 mcg daily brought me up over 400 points in less than a month.

Dave

[FRDave]

i've taken 5-15 per day for years.

Methyl? Have you had blood taken? If so, what were your levels?

Dave

[powerlifterty16]

Methyl? Have you had blood taken? If so, what were your levels?

Dave

methyl....havent had it tested..but going to the endo in may so ill request it. it's water soluble you piss out what you don't need.

[FRDave]

methyl....havent had it tested..but going to the endo in may so ill request it. it's water soluble you piss out what you don't need.

I tested at 1169 pg/mL on a range of 200-910 pg/mL taking 2000mcg daily of the MRM branded methyl based tabs.

I was unsure of the effects being over the range so now I only take 3 days per week. I'll have to look more into this as I'm now interested in if there is too much as more is not always better IMO.

Dave