One of the new guys...with medical problems. I welcome feedback

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-13-2012, 09:32 AM

Hey Guys,

**lovbyts** · 11-13-2012, 09:54 AM

YES, 500 mg a week is to much for anyone unless blood test show different but I cant imagine that. Most people are anywher from 150 - 200 week, some a LITTLE more. 500 is considered a good solid cycle.

You need to read the sticky notes at the time. I would say more but time for me to go home and others will chime in. Good luck and welcome.

**HEVEW8** · 11-13-2012, 10:02 AM

Im no pro but you should be under the supevision of a doctor and not self medicate. Also get a full blood panel test and post it so we can see what's going on inside you. Everyone responds to test differently, I'm curantly lowering my dose from 50mg twice weekly to 30mg due to High hematocrit issues. 200mg (once a week) is the top of the dosing rang for TRT. @ 500mg you are sure to have trouble.

**J DIESEL3** · 11-13-2012, 10:17 AM

NRGman why not just wait and see how you feel on the Axiron..

Or if you find that the Axiron is not working ask your doc to try 100 to 200 per week of test.c or e.

500MG nonstop over many years or forever you will probably have some major health issues.

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-13-2012, 10:30 AM

thanks guys. I appreciate the posts.

**J DIESEL3** · 11-13-2012, 10:45 AM

Yes most stay on for life once they get started.

The amount that you will take comes down to what your blood work looks like.
Meaning that you have to stay in range for free t and total t ect..

**TennTarheel** · 11-13-2012, 11:36 AM

How long after your last Test E shot did you get bloodwork done? Since you were on for 16 weeks, you would have had to wait another few months or so before you got true baseline values. That 26 is probably while you were still shut down.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 11-13-2012, 11:42 AM

Just curious, how much Axiron do you use daily?

**bass** · 11-13-2012, 11:49 AM

we have issues with 200 mgs ew as is, like elevated blood pressure, hemoglobin, RBC, hematocrit, e2 and the list goes on, i can't even imagine what 500 mgs ew for a year will do! moist of us on TRT do 100 mgs ew, some do up to 200.

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-13-2012, 11:54 AM

thanks Teentarheel

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-13-2012, 11:56 AM

Axiron is 1 pump under each armpit applied every day in the morning. I am at my office now but i will have to double check the mg on the bottle when i get home.

**TennTarheel** · 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by NRGman

Hey Teentarheel...my last injection was friday August 31. Blood work taken was about 6 weeks after last injection. I am curious to see how my test result is this week...going on 2.5 months now and i still feel like sh1t.

Only thing is, Axiron is going to throw the readings off even though you aren't feeling it. By taking the Axiron, you are shutting down your hpta again. Your Test will be elevated from the 26 but we don't truly know what your baseline Test levels are when your body is natural and recovered from AAS

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 11-13-2012, 12:08 PM

I also started with 1 pump under each armpit. After 4 weeks I got blood work done and my GP bumped me up to 2 pumps per axilla. My test levels pre TRT were around 270 and 4 pumps got me to about 840. I have been loving the results.
Not sure if this is broscience or not but I feel like I get better absorption if I shower directly before applying the Axiron.

Let us know how your bloodwork comes in at.

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-13-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by TennTarheel

Only thing is, Axiron is going to throw the readings off even though you aren't feeling it. By taking the Axiron, you are shutting down your hpta again. Your Test will be elevated from the 26 but we don't truly know what your baseline Test levels are when your body is natural and recovered from AAS

I just called today and made an appointment with an endocrinologist to get bloodwork done but that is in 2 weeks....

Thanks

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-13-2012, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

I also started with 1 pump under each armpit. After 4 weeks I got blood work done and my GP bumped me up to 2 pumps per axilla. My test levels pre TRT were around 270 and 4 pumps got me to about 840. I have been loving the results.
Not sure if this is broscience or not but I feel like I get better absorption if I shower directly before applying the Axiron.

Let us know how your bloodwork comes in at.

btw, what deoderant do you use?

**TennTarheel** · 11-13-2012, 12:21 PM

If I were you, I would do a "Restart" protocol with clomid and hcg , then wait a few weeks for your body to level out and have bloodwork done again. Some of the vets will chime in and probably give you specifics of how to do it if they agree. In doing it though, we can at least have a good baseline and know what issues you are dealing with. Does that make sense? And yes, Androgel for 6 months will shut you down.

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-14-2012, 07:19 AM

my axiron is 30mg per pump.

**Anabolic4Health** · 11-14-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by TennTarheel

If I were you, I would do a "Restart" protocol with clomid and hcg, then wait a few weeks for your body to level out and have bloodwork done again. Some of the vets will chime in and probably give you specifics of how to do it if they agree. In doing it though, we can at least have a good baseline and know what issues you are dealing with. Does that make sense? And yes, Androgel for 6 months will shut you down.

thanks